How do you all do it.

BossTuggles

I played a bit this weekend with some friends after taking all of TG off. I do not understand how you all play this PvP with such terrible performance. When will enough be enough for you guys?

Keiryan

Play on Haderus where the lag isn't so horrendous

God_flakes

My guild played on Haderus last night and I didn't notice much difference between Had and TF as far as performance or lag goes. Had is kinda boring, tbh. But the AP was decent. The only real fun moment I can recall was getting one pieced by @Mythk.

Sunburnt_Penguin

Last night my campaign was terrible even in small scales so I just went to farm which was a bit annoying. It's usually fine on week nights though.

It's ridiculous that there's that much lag considering the amount of time the game's been out.

Ghostbane

God_flakes wrote: »

My guild played on Haderus last night and I didn't notice much difference between Had and TF as far as performance or lag goes. Had is kinda boring, tbh. But the AP was decent. The only real fun moment I can recall was getting one pieced by @Mythk.

The GvG may have upset the global performance in some sectors. Normally Had is toot sweet.

God_flakes

Possible. I know one thing for sure....AD proved last night they need no help on TF. Sorry for the camera shot-it was sent to me.

susmitds

Using the Addon "Votan's Video Settings" helped me a lot to fight Cyrodiil lag. Also cap Max FPS to 30 or so while in Cyrodiil. This prevents the random FPS drops quite a bit.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

Lag isn't all that bad on XBox. Disconnects are a bigger problem. I usually get one every 3-4 hours but actual lag, nah, maybe 1 bad lag spike a week. Usually it's gone in 30 seconds. The lag on every sports game I own is infinitely worse.

vyndral13preub18_ESO

I dont. It is actually sort of sad. I went back and played a game i left because of the lag. I was shocked. Surprised at how well the game preformed and how well it worked in large groups.

Then i realized. No it was still crappy it was just ESO is so much worse it looked good. It is bad when the your game is so bad it makes other laggy games look good.

frozywozy

God_flakes wrote: »

My guild played on Haderus last night and I didn't notice much difference between Had and TF as far as performance or lag goes. Had is kinda boring, tbh. But the AP was decent. The only real fun moment I can recall was getting one pieced by @Mythk.

There was lag on Haderus yesterday because a huge GvG was happening. Otherwise, Haderus runs like a charm. I'm actually considering homing there after this Trueflame cycle. We need to establish some kind of balance between Trueflame and Haderus. Especially between EP and DC.

Rohamad_Ali

Stop blowing up the servers with your elite GvG ! <---- Sarcastic Font , We need it .

On a serious note , ZoS please fix server performance .

Zheg

I have faith that the servers will be able to handle large-scale pvp ... in CU.

Rohamad_Ali

Zheg wrote: »

I have faith that the servers will be able to handle large-scale pvp ... in CU.

You have a lot of faith in that game . I'm skeptical . I've been stood up at the prom more then once so I have "issues" .

Skyy

God_flakes wrote: »

Possible. I know one thing for sure....AD proved last night they need no help on TF. Sorry for the camera shot-it was sent to me.

But wait, I thought AD and EP were double teaming DC and AD never hit EP?

Rohamad_Ali

Skyy wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Possible. I know one thing for sure....AD proved last night they need no help on TF. Sorry for the camera shot-it was sent to me.

But wait, I thought AD and EP were double teaming DC and AD never hit EP?

You do realize EP had Emp right ? Do we have to explain this process every time ?

Jaronking

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

Skyy wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Possible. I know one thing for sure....AD proved last night they need no help on TF. Sorry for the camera shot-it was sent to me.

But wait, I thought AD and EP were double teaming DC and AD never hit EP?

You do realize EP had Emp right ? Do we have to explain this process every time ?

Actually you do from my experience EP players don't understand that the other two factions don't want them to have emp and they take it as a personally insult.

God_flakes

Skyy wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Possible. I know one thing for sure....AD proved last night they need no help on TF. Sorry for the camera shot-it was sent to me.

But wait, I thought AD and EP were double teaming DC and AD never hit EP?

Let me walk back the "double teaming" statement, as that was Mojican's wording and not mine. He deliberately misstated my position. My position has been that for the last few weeks, AD has deliberately "stood down" against EP, for the most part. I've been told by AD themselves they have no interest in map objectives and they have no desire to engage EP because of the lag caused by the EPzerg. Several AD players have even come here and blatantly said they don't care about the map or score.

And then suddenly last night the ADZerg resurrected itself from the dead. Thus proving what I have tried to tell some who are currently considering defecting to AD to help bring balance to TF, that AD neither needs help rallying, organizing and certainly don't need help with numbers. They can accomplish this when they *want* to by literally poo'ing soldiers out their collective elf arses. Seeing the map look like this was a sight to behold, indeed. AD is a force to be reckoned with. They do NOT need help on TF. They need consistency.

Publius_Scipio

BossTuggles wrote: »

I played a bit this weekend with some friends after taking all of TG off. I do not understand how you all play this PvP with such terrible performance. When will enough be enough for you guys?

Mr. Tuggles. I wasn't going to respond to this thread (not out of disrespect or anything), but FENGRUSH is fond of you and out of respect for him the name of Scipio shall appear here.

Anyways, I will say in all honesty that for me over the past couple of months Cyrodiil performance has improved. It is definitely no where near the lag of last Fall/Winter where everything would freeze and no skills worked. I am also excited to see what the DB patch brings with its announced round of further performance improvements.

frozywozy

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

BossTuggles wrote: »

I played a bit this weekend with some friends after taking all of TG off. I do not understand how you all play this PvP with such terrible performance. When will enough be enough for you guys?

Mr. Tuggles. I wasn't going to respond to this thread (not out of disrespect or anything), but FENGRUSH is fond of you and out of respect for him the name of Scipio shall appear here.

Anyways, I will say in all honesty that for me over the past couple of months Cyrodiil performance has improved. It is definitely no where near the lag of last Fall/Winter where everything would freeze and no skills worked. I am also excited to see what the DB patch brings with its announced round of further performance improvements.

Frozn Yogurt supports this.

Satiar

BossTuggles wrote: »

I played a bit this weekend with some friends after taking all of TG off. I do not understand how you all play this PvP with such terrible performance. When will enough be enough for you guys?

I'm considering expanding Drunk Raid Night to include all raid nights.

RadioheadSh0t

TF is bad for me, but I have noticed improvements.

I can go on Had when it's 3-way popped and get under 100 ping consistently, whereas on TF I can get 800 ping at the gate feeding my horses.

God_flakes

Satiar wrote: »

BossTuggles wrote: »

I played a bit this weekend with some friends after taking all of TG off. I do not understand how you all play this PvP with such terrible performance. When will enough be enough for you guys?

I'm considering expanding Drunk Raid Night to include all raid nights.

Not a good idea, as I demonstrated so poignantly Friday night.

Skyy

God_flakes wrote: »

Skyy wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Possible. I know one thing for sure....AD proved last night they need no help on TF. Sorry for the camera shot-it was sent to me.

But wait, I thought AD and EP were double teaming DC and AD never hit EP?

Let me walk back the "double teaming" statement, as that was Mojican's wording and not mine. He deliberately misstated my position. My position has been that for the last few weeks, AD has deliberately "stood down" against EP, for the most part. I've been told by AD themselves they have no interest in map objectives and they have no desire to engage EP because of the lag caused by the EPzerg. Several AD players have even come here and blatantly said they don't care about the map or score.

And then suddenly last night the ADZerg resurrected itself from the dead. Thus proving what I have tried to tell some who are currently considering defecting to AD to help bring balance to TF, that AD neither needs help rallying, organizing and certainly don't need help with numbers. They can accomplish this when they *want* to by literally poo'ing soldiers out their collective elf arses. Seeing the map look like this was a sight to behold, indeed. AD is a force to be reckoned with. They do NOT need help on TF. They need consistency.

I've seen you say that AD never targeted EP multiple times before Mojican made his statement (one that I agree is completely hilarious, if he thinks he is doing anything to promote AD map control that is an absolute laugh and a great insight into why AD is considered completely irrelevant in most cases). I completely believe that that AD should be pushing us as hard as they can, but especially when DC insists on taking Brindle and Roe, of course AD are gonna push back some. I'm still convinced they don't hit DC nearly as hard as they do EP though.

God_flakes

Skyy wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Skyy wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Possible. I know one thing for sure....AD proved last night they need no help on TF. Sorry for the camera shot-it was sent to me.

But wait, I thought AD and EP were double teaming DC and AD never hit EP?

Let me walk back the "double teaming" statement, as that was Mojican's wording and not mine. He deliberately misstated my position. My position has been that for the last few weeks, AD has deliberately "stood down" against EP, for the most part. I've been told by AD themselves they have no interest in map objectives and they have no desire to engage EP because of the lag caused by the EPzerg. Several AD players have even come here and blatantly said they don't care about the map or score.

And then suddenly last night the ADZerg resurrected itself from the dead. Thus proving what I have tried to tell some who are currently considering defecting to AD to help bring balance to TF, that AD neither needs help rallying, organizing and certainly don't need help with numbers. They can accomplish this when they *want* to by literally poo'ing soldiers out their collective elf arses. Seeing the map look like this was a sight to behold, indeed. AD is a force to be reckoned with. They do NOT need help on TF. They need consistency.

I've seen you say that AD never targeted EP multiple times before Mojican made his statement (one that I agree is completely hilarious, if he thinks he is doing anything to promote AD map control that is an absolute laugh and a great insight into why AD is considered completely irrelevant in most cases). I completely believe that that AD should be pushing us as hard as they can, but especially when DC insists on taking Brindle and Roe, of course AD are gonna push back some. I'm still convinced they don't hit DC nearly as hard as they do EP though.

Actually, I try not to use the words never and always. I am actually in communication with a lot of AD who DO try to push EP. One in particular was recently booted from his guild and is leaving AD because even he is fed up with the behavior of too many AD who prefer trollish tactics rather than map play. As far as Mojican goes, I realize he is not all of AD. When I reference him, it's just him. I don't blame him for AD apathy.

But last night was interesting. We didn't play on TF last night but when I checked the map I was shocked and still have yet to see an explanation as to why AD decided to rise from their slumber and paint the entire map yellow!

Satiar

Skyy wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Skyy wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Possible. I know one thing for sure....AD proved last night they need no help on TF. Sorry for the camera shot-it was sent to me.

But wait, I thought AD and EP were double teaming DC and AD never hit EP?

Let me walk back the "double teaming" statement, as that was Mojican's wording and not mine. He deliberately misstated my position. My position has been that for the last few weeks, AD has deliberately "stood down" against EP, for the most part. I've been told by AD themselves they have no interest in map objectives and they have no desire to engage EP because of the lag caused by the EPzerg. Several AD players have even come here and blatantly said they don't care about the map or score.

And then suddenly last night the ADZerg resurrected itself from the dead. Thus proving what I have tried to tell some who are currently considering defecting to AD to help bring balance to TF, that AD neither needs help rallying, organizing and certainly don't need help with numbers. They can accomplish this when they *want* to by literally poo'ing soldiers out their collective elf arses. Seeing the map look like this was a sight to behold, indeed. AD is a force to be reckoned with. They do NOT need help on TF. They need consistency.

I've seen you say that AD never targeted EP multiple times before Mojican made his statement (one that I agree is completely hilarious, if he thinks he is doing anything to promote AD map control that is an absolute laugh and a great insight into why AD is considered completely irrelevant in most cases). I completely believe that that AD should be pushing us as hard as they can, but especially when DC insists on taking Brindle and Roe, of course AD are gonna push back some. I'm still convinced they don't hit DC nearly as hard as they do EP though.

Sometimes AD just doesn't get it. I want to push EP, AD is at Ash. I wipe them all and go north. AD at Ash again. Wipe them all and take Nickel as a buffer. 20 minutes later they're back again at Ash.

I understand this as a general thing. But this regularly happens when you don't even have Alessia.

KisoValley

God_flakes wrote: »

Skyy wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Possible. I know one thing for sure....AD proved last night they need no help on TF. Sorry for the camera shot-it was sent to me.

But wait, I thought AD and EP were double teaming DC and AD never hit EP?

Let me walk back the "double teaming" statement, as that was Mojican's wording and not mine. He deliberately misstated my position. My position has been that for the last few weeks, AD has deliberately "stood down" against EP, for the most part. I've been told by AD themselves they have no interest in map objectives and they have no desire to engage EP because of the lag caused by the EPzerg. Several AD players have even come here and blatantly said they don't care about the map or score.

And then suddenly last night the ADZerg resurrected itself from the dead. Thus proving what I have tried to tell some who are currently considering defecting to AD to help bring balance to TF, that AD neither needs help rallying, organizing and certainly don't need help with numbers. They can accomplish this when they *want* to by literally poo'ing soldiers out their collective elf arses. Seeing the map look like this was a sight to behold, indeed. AD is a force to be reckoned with. They do NOT need help on TF. They need consistency.

Meanwhile on PC EU EP zergs travel in packs of 70 if your lucky and lag out the whole campaign single handedly. Funnily enough they still don't win campaigns with easily the biggest zergs and most players in their faction.

God_flakes

Satiar wrote: »

Skyy wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Skyy wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Possible. I know one thing for sure....AD proved last night they need no help on TF. Sorry for the camera shot-it was sent to me.

But wait, I thought AD and EP were double teaming DC and AD never hit EP?

Let me walk back the "double teaming" statement, as that was Mojican's wording and not mine. He deliberately misstated my position. My position has been that for the last few weeks, AD has deliberately "stood down" against EP, for the most part. I've been told by AD themselves they have no interest in map objectives and they have no desire to engage EP because of the lag caused by the EPzerg. Several AD players have even come here and blatantly said they don't care about the map or score.

And then suddenly last night the ADZerg resurrected itself from the dead. Thus proving what I have tried to tell some who are currently considering defecting to AD to help bring balance to TF, that AD neither needs help rallying, organizing and certainly don't need help with numbers. They can accomplish this when they *want* to by literally poo'ing soldiers out their collective elf arses. Seeing the map look like this was a sight to behold, indeed. AD is a force to be reckoned with. They do NOT need help on TF. They need consistency.

I've seen you say that AD never targeted EP multiple times before Mojican made his statement (one that I agree is completely hilarious, if he thinks he is doing anything to promote AD map control that is an absolute laugh and a great insight into why AD is considered completely irrelevant in most cases). I completely believe that that AD should be pushing us as hard as they can, but especially when DC insists on taking Brindle and Roe, of course AD are gonna push back some. I'm still convinced they don't hit DC nearly as hard as they do EP though.

Sometimes AD just doesn't get it. I want to push EP, AD is at Ash. I wipe them all and go north. AD at Ash again. Wipe them all and take Nickel as a buffer. 20 minutes later they're back again at Ash.

I understand this as a general thing. But this regularly happens when you don't even have Alessia. EP

Yup. Sounds about right. And after they flip Ash they creep up to Glade. All while Alessia and Sej are still red. Sometimes even when Faregyl is red. It's baffling.

Morbash

BossTuggles wrote: »

I played a bit this weekend with some friends after taking all of TG off. I do not understand how you all play this PvP with such terrible performance. When will enough be enough for you guys?

Fortunately, I'm able to play during off-hours. Usually around 2am to 10am EDT give or take an hour.

Armitas

If you play in the lag long enough your brain will start to fill in the missing frames. The game actually starts to look weird when you have enough frames.

WillhelmBlack

I just potter about til golden hour (2-3am gmt) then I pvp properly.

zyk

Satiar wrote: »

Sometimes AD just doesn't get it. I want to push EP, AD is at Ash. I wipe them all and go north. AD at Ash again. Wipe them all and take Nickel as a buffer. 20 minutes later they're back again at Ash.

I understand this as a general thing. But this regularly happens when you don't even have Alessia.

The AD POV of DC is the same. When I've played, it's been normal for both Alessia and Aleswell to be red and for Ash and Roe to be blue. Less often, it is Roe and Ash that are yellow.

I don't really blame AD or DC players who do this anymore. On TF, the cancer is EP. Haxus and other experienced EP may not have the numbers to ruin campaigns by themselves anymore, but they are more than happy to be the icing on that cake. I'd rather fight smaller DC groups than feed EP farms.

I will also add the FOTM faction players bear a lot of blame too. I see a lot of notable players who played for AD and DC when it suited them in 2.1 and 2.2 who have switched to EP to profit from the 1.5-like faction dynamics. Some of them might be good players, but they are very bad sports.