The four-fifth-non-katana katana: what on earth did you do with it, ZoS?

LadyNalcarya · May 2016

I could care less, really.

khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

Lol there are different types of Japanese swords, some of them have more defined curve than your-typical-katana.
Maybe its based on a tachi sword, not a katana.

P.S. As a weapon aestetics nerd, I would say that animations of melee combat in this game are much more inaccurate than this weapon model.

P.P.S. Oh, and argonian greatsword. Nuff said.

What about the argonian greatsword?

Its one of the most oversized greatsword in game.

notimetocare · May 2016

I could care less, really.

Inspiration for a model is not replication. Last I checked, it is not called a Katana in game...
My guess is OP is a wannabe Samurai-Ninja elite and this offends their identity... But jokes aside, this is a 100% non-issue unless you are one of them people to scream 'cultural appropriation'

GivvumBoane · May 2016

The curvature of a katana is determined by the rate the blade temperature is cooled during quenching. Ideally it has a slight curve, but if the blade undergoes a more rapid cooling after smithing, it would have a more pronounced curve but be more brittle.

Lenikus · May 2016

I could care less, really.

Are they funcional ? Do they look like they can stab someone and/or cut them in a way that causes mild amputations ?

If so, waht's teh problem, bruh?

khele23eb17_ESO · May 2016

Yes, it looks rediculous.

Lenikus wrote: »

Are they funcional ? Do they look like they can stab someone and/or cut them in a way that causes mild amputations ?

If so, waht's teh problem, bruh?

I think the problem is... they dont look as cool as they could.

Lenikus · May 2016

I could care less, really.

khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »

I think the problem is... they dont look as cool as they could.

How can you tell that a style from a fictional civilization on a fantasy game "could" be different ?

khele23eb17_ESO · May 2016

Yes, it looks rediculous.

Lenikus wrote: »

khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »

I think the problem is... they dont look as cool as they could.

How can you tell that a style from a fictional civilization on a fantasy game "could" be different ?

Because I dont live within the confines of that gaming world thus I realize it is in fact a _fictional_ civilisation and the devs could have made the things look differently...?

Anhedonie · May 2016

I'm not a native english speaker and won't mock you or anything, but I can give you a good advice instead.
Next time you'll be doubting between "could care less" or "couldn't care less" pick "I don't give a ***" option.

GivvumBoane · May 2016

notimetocare wrote: »

Inspiration for a model is not replication. Last I checked, it is not called a Katana in game...
My guess is OP is a wannabe Samurai-Ninja elite and this offends their identity... But jokes aside, this is a 100% non-issue unless you are one of them people to scream 'cultural appropriation'

Not sure what it is in this game , but in Oblivion it was an Akaviri Katana for the one hand, and Akaviri Dai-Katana for the 2 hand.
Edit: Oblivion also had Daedric versions of the 1 and 2 hand Katanas

Blackbird71 · May 2016

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

I could care less, really.

I'll let "Weird" Al make my point:

"Weird Al" Yankovic - Word Crimes: "I could care less"

The correct phrase is "I couldn't care less," indicating that you care so little about something that it is absolutely impossible for you to care any less than you already do.

As Mr. Yankovic points out, "I could care less" means that you do actually care (at least a little), as there is a measure of caring which exists that is less than how much you care. How large or small that measure of caring is is something completely undefined; it could be tiny or it could be huge.

Divinius wrote: »

I couldn't care less, but that wasn't a poll option.

Somebody gets it.

This post sponsored by the coalition to fight the spread of ignorance through the internet - yes, we know it's a lost cause, so what?

W0lf_z13 · May 2016

r.jan_emailb16_ESO wrote: »

Katanas ARE curved

They're also meant to be wielded with two hands, and the shorter Wakizashi is the one handed/close quarters version. That "ninja sword" someone mentioned was more often than not a shortened Katana. If you want a longer sword (with an even more apparent curve, obviously) you'll want a Tachi, but that one is basically useless outside of open battlefields. Samurai usually carried the Katana (+Wakizashi) when in a civil environment, and the Tachi (+Tanto, a knife) as part of their battle gear.

Also, they are 100% not made to combat opponents in full plate armour and Samurai also didn't carry shields, shame on you.

u get an awesome from me for mentioning the Tanto

Asherons_Call · May 2016

4/5 people have no idea what sword you are talking about. Wait... SQUIRRELL!!!

dodgehopper_ESO · May 2016

Mr.Hmm wrote: »

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

Aw, sorry, I thought most would know which one I spoke of: the Akaviri, indeed.
Pic (1st person view):

Totally doesnt look like a katana.

I dont think Katanas are curved.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Depending on the era, katanas did take a curved shape like that and just like in the west it was intended for cavalrymen. The curved sword is called a 'tachi' and showed up around the 8th century. I've seen and handled swords like this that were very old. A curved saber-like Katana is not as strange as you think it is.

Panth141 · May 2016

I just want the Blades' sword & Armour from Oblivion.

Seriously, I would actually send you my kidney in exchange for that motif.

NovaMarx · May 2016

Blackbird71 wrote: »

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

I could care less, really.

I'll let "Weird" Al make my point:

"Weird Al" Yankovic - Word Crimes: "I could care less"

The correct phrase is "I couldn't care less," indicating that you care so little about something that it is absolutely impossible for you to care any less than you already do.

As Mr. Yankovic points out, "I could care less" means that you do actually care (at least a little), as there is a measure of caring which exists that is less than how much you care. How large or small that measure of caring is is something completely undefined; it could be tiny or it could be huge.

Divinius wrote: »

I couldn't care less, but that wasn't a poll option.

Somebody gets it.

This post sponsored by the coalition to fight the spread of ignorance through the internet - yes, we know it's a lost cause, so what?

Exactly!

Note: I too would have chosen the option "Couldn't care less".

dtm_samuraib16_ESO · May 2016

Tried to make a new screen in 1st view, but alas...

Still, in 1st person it looks like a rusted, horribly damaged saber blade, rather than that in 3rp person view.
And I tried so hard to neglect it, but...

As for Samurai/Ninja wannabe?
Seriously, you think that's an insult?
Try harder.

dtm_samuraib16_ESO · May 2016

Tried to make a new screen in 1st view, but alas...

Still, in 1st person it looks like a rusted, horribly damaged saber blade, rather than that in 3rp person view.
And I tried so hard to neglect it, but...

As for Samurai/Ninja wannabe?
Seriously, you think that's an insult?
Try harder.

Rune_Relic · May 2016

OP.. you are thinking of a ninjato
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninjatō

Not a katana
Its part of the quenching process to cut the blade into water.
This process is what causes the essential curve to optimise the efficiency of the slice.
See forging & construction....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katana

Ninjato were more a mass produced rough and ready blade.

GivvumBoane · May 2016

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

Mr.Hmm wrote: »

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

Aw, sorry, I thought most would know which one I spoke of: the Akaviri, indeed.
Pic (1st person view):

Totally doesnt look like a katana.

I dont think Katanas are curved.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Depending on the era, katanas did take a curved shape like that and just like in the west it was intended for cavalrymen. The curved sword is called a 'tachi' and showed up around the 8th century. I've seen and handled swords like this that were very old. A curved saber-like Katana is not as strange as you think it is.

Honjo Masamune, is the most valuable and sought-after katana in existence, assuming it still exists. It was confiscated after WWII by the Americans and has never been seen since. It had curvature extending through the tang. Hilt and blade formed a continuous curve. Remarkable blade forged by Legendary Masamune.

Teridaxus · May 2016

Nanomachines > Katanas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmWQd8zhEg4

dday3six · May 2016

I could care less, really.

Most of the weaponry and armor is so far detatched from any real world equivalent that it's a moot point. It's a fantasy game, the choices are stylistic.

dtm_samuraib16_ESO · May 2016

I know what a Katana looks like.
Or a ninjato.

I want a nice, first person katana blade... not that rusted, damaged sabre blade...
Odd, in 3rd it looks nice, just not in 1st.

WhiteCoatSyndrome · May 2016

@Lenikus : I love how you said mild amputations.

And our friends the Tsaesci probably have different needs for their swords than their closest real-life equivalent. As long as it works on dragons they're probably happy...except for the poor guy(s) who got soul shriven to bring us these swords, as their sword-making skills obviously didn't get them out of Coldharbour.