Maintenance for the week of December 16:
• PC/Mac: No maintenance – December 16
• NA megaservers for patch maintenance – December 17, 4:00AM EST (9:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EST (17:00 UTC)
• EU megaservers for patch maintenance – December 17, 9:00 UTC (4:00AM EST) - 17:00 UTC (12:00PM EST)

Revers it, before is to late

Runkorko
Runkorko
✭✭✭✭✭
"Champion System
We recently moved the block cost reduction from the Steed tree to the Shadow tree. This change was made to give more options in customizing your defenses, and help reduce the amount of time spent blocking. When spending Warrior points, you don’t need to invest in block cost; you can now consider increased healing taken, stronger damage shields, or more damage reduction. Let’s dive into how this will affect the stats of a character with 501 Champion Points who is trying to maximize their block time and damage resistance"

Yes you will give PvErs more free points to invest in Steed tree, but what about magicka pve tanks? what about tanks which prefer roll dodge instead blocking heavy attack ? By moving block from Steed to Shadow your limit the points we can spend to reduce roll cost and to increase stam/magicka regen. I read your last pts changes and there is not a single word about dragonknigts.This will be the final nail in dk coffin if you let this change gone live. You will cut magicka templars too. In general you will cut all heavy armor users/ which rely on block. Please ZoS, reconsider.
  • dsalter
    dsalter
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    if you wanna be taken seriously it's "Reverse" :)
    PLEASE REPLY TO ME WITH @dsalter otherwise i'm likely to miss the reply if its not my own thread

    EU - [Arch Mage Dave] Altmer Sorcerer
    Fight back at the crates and boxes, together we can change things.

  • phaneub17_ESO
    phaneub17_ESO
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    dsalter wrote: »
    if you wanna be taken seriously it's "Reverse" :)

    and the other "too"

  • LegendaryArcher
    LegendaryArcher
    ✭✭✭✭
    dsalter wrote: »
    if you wanna be taken seriously it's "Reverse" :)

    and the other "too"

    and the other "it's" or "it is", and no comma before "before" in this case
    Edited by LegendaryArcher on May 12, 2016 10:21AM
    PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates
  • Runkorko
    Runkorko
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Guys do you need someone to chew your food before you are able to eat it? Obviously english is not my strong side, but I think you understand what I wanted to say. Why did not comment on it instead of giving me english lessons.

  • phaneub17_ESO
    phaneub17_ESO
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fine. There's at least 5 other threads with multiple pages filled with comprehensive reasoning why they need to revert the change back, no need to start new ones. At this point every new thread is just extra spam. Is that the criticism you're looking for?
  • Turelus
    Turelus
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fine. There's at least 5 other threads with multiple pages filled with comprehensive reasoning why they need to revert the change back, no need to start new ones. At this point every new thread is just extra spam. Is that the criticism you're looking for?

    Pretty much this.

    No offence OP runkorkoeb but these kind of pleading threads are pointless. ZOS will not magically change their mind because a single player made a plea.

    There are threads with comprehensive feedback and debates about the issue, you can either chime in on one of those saying you don't feel it's good for the game or post some new numbers, test results etc to the thread which might help ZOS understand the issues.

    Otherwise mostly (as with all updates we've had) this is just crying about not liking change and over reacting to something which within three months no one will really care about as the new meta builds will be out and everyone will have adapted. Remember when everyone said no stamina regen would kill PvE?
    @Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
    "Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."
  • Runkorko
    Runkorko
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Turelus wrote: »
    Fine. There's at least 5 other threads with multiple pages filled with comprehensive reasoning why they need to revert the change back, no need to start new ones. At this point every new thread is just extra spam. Is that the criticism you're looking for?

    Pretty much this.

    No offence OP runkorkoeb but these kind of pleading threads are pointless. ZOS will not magically change their mind because a single player made a plea.

    There are threads with comprehensive feedback and debates about the issue, you can either chime in on one of those saying you don't feel it's good for the game or post some new numbers, test results etc to the thread which might help ZOS understand the issues.

    Otherwise mostly (as with all updates we've had) this is just crying about not liking change and over reacting to something which within three months no one will really care about as the new meta builds will be out and everyone will have adapted. Remember when everyone said no stamina regen would kill PvE?

    And pls tell me mother flower, HOW magica DK adapt? Whats the magica DK new META build ? Can you enlight me pls ? If adapt means- change spek or class, no ty. Pls press dat spam buton (you know what i mean) and dont play other class than sorc or nb. Brain activity may be fatal for you! Tolls, no brainers and fan boys... "adapt" "meta builds" ... crawl back to wow boy. ZoS delete this topic and cut my acces to forums. You can keep all smart kids in, and follow their feedbacks. We will continue to support till we get pissed off. Such great potential wasted.
    Edited by Runkorko on May 12, 2016 12:12PM
  • phaneub17_ESO
    phaneub17_ESO
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Brain activity may be fatal for you!

    I think you're already beyond the point of no return in that regards.
  • Runkorko
    Runkorko
    ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think
    sure thing.. have a nice day fella
  • dsalter
    dsalter
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    Guys do you need someone to chew your food before you are able to eat it? Obviously english is not my strong side, but I think you understand what I wanted to say. Why did not comment on it instead of giving me english lessons.

    my correction is so that someone would understand right of the bat what you ment, the others are just being over grammatical :p
    PLEASE REPLY TO ME WITH @dsalter otherwise i'm likely to miss the reply if its not my own thread

    EU - [Arch Mage Dave] Altmer Sorcerer
    Fight back at the crates and boxes, together we can change things.

  • Sleep
    Sleep
    ✭✭✭✭
    A lot of problems can be solved by raising the CP cap though players with low CP will not benefit from this but that's just a matter of character progression.
  • Saturn
    Saturn
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    I highly disagree with this post. The champion point changes will benefit more people than it will upset as you can now focus your points in Hardy and Elemental Defender, while still be able to max out Blocking Expertise (or whatever it will be called).

    I've tanked pretty much the entire time ESO has been out and this is a buff, in my opinion, not a nerf.

    Yes you will give PvErs more free points to invest in Steed tree, but what about magicka pve tanks? what about tanks which prefer roll dodge instead blocking heavy attack ? By moving block from Steed to Shadow your limit the points we can spend to reduce roll cost and to increase stam/magicka regen.
    With the changes to Constitution you will not need to rely so much on magicka recovery or cost reduction. PLUS you can go with seven pieces of Sturdy, which means you can remove 1-2 Shieldplay enchants and maintain the same Block Cost, while using those enchant slots for recovery or reduction instead.
    I don't know about the roll cost. I haven't really heard or seen any viable tank builds specifically using this, and it honestly just sounds like it wouldn't be that great to begin with since you risk death if you time a dodge incorrectly on a oneshot attack, at least for PvE.

    I recommend you take a look at this. It will probably ease your mind a bit.
    "Madness is a bitter mercy, perhaps, but a mercy nonetheless."

    Fire and Ice
  • Roymachine
    Roymachine
    ✭✭✭
    Turelus wrote: »
    Fine. There's at least 5 other threads with multiple pages filled with comprehensive reasoning why they need to revert the change back, no need to start new ones. At this point every new thread is just extra spam. Is that the criticism you're looking for?

    Pretty much this.

    No offence OP runkorkoeb but these kind of pleading threads are pointless. ZOS will not magically change their mind because a single player made a plea.

    There are threads with comprehensive feedback and debates about the issue, you can either chime in on one of those saying you don't feel it's good for the game or post some new numbers, test results etc to the thread which might help ZOS understand the issues.

    Otherwise mostly (as with all updates we've had) this is just crying about not liking change and over reacting to something which within three months no one will really care about as the new meta builds will be out and everyone will have adapted. Remember when everyone said no stamina regen would kill PvE?

    And pls tell me mother flower, HOW magica DK adapt? Whats the magica DK new META build ? Can you enlight me pls ? If adapt means- change spek or class, no ty. Pls press dat spam buton (you know what i mean) and dont play other class than sorc or nb. Brain activity may be fatal for you! Tolls, no brainers and fan boys... "adapt" "meta builds" ... crawl back to wow boy. ZoS delete this topic and cut my acces to forums. You can keep all smart kids in, and follow their feedbacks. We will continue to support till we get pissed off. Such great potential wasted.

    From the looks of your post, it would seem you haven't even given much thought whatsoever to other changes made in the game, or other options that are available to you. There is more than one way to build a character.
Sign In or Register to comment.