Do Magicka Dk's need an execute ability?

Hutch679

Do Magicka Dk's need an execute ability?

Sugaroverdose

No

Hutch679 wrote: »

Do you think k that Lava Whip and it's morphs for the magicka Dk need a damage buff?

it does 7k with less than 1.8k spelldmg and 33k magicka, it's already powerful enough.
mDK needs viable execute and chains which at least works like other charges.

Hutch679

Yes

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willymchilybily

No

in response to new thread: do DK need an execute....
There are 5 executes (3 class 2 weapon) in game, so they are pretty rare. it is odd that every class has one but DK, but then every class has a targeted gap close but sorcerer (has streak instead), every class has an armor buff apart from nightblades (they have the 4 second shadow passive shadow barrier). and i like these differences. Even the ones that negatively affect my favourite characters.

id suggest instead they buff mages guild or destruction staff etc, to have a magicka base execute.

in response to old thread, do DK's whip need a buff:

I dont believe so, for PvE.

You do have to bare in mind what it can be used in conjunction with and not just the skill in isolation.

with whip it is also getting benefits from elemental drain and engulfing flames, both allowing you to get more damage from it and offset the cost so magicka regen requirements are lessened allowing more focus on damage. There is nothing else that can boast the same. ofcourse this is offset by its range

in PvP its not in a great spot, but its not so bad. it is still quite cheap as far as spell costs go.

RocDonald

Yes

Molten Weapons used to be an effective execute (when heavy attacks would do up to 150% more damage to enemies below 50% health) but for whatever reason they got rid of it. Not really a whole lot of ranged options. I would suggest turning fiery breath into a ranged fireball (similar to crystal blast), it would help some with our burst damage. Like, how many DoT's can you stack

RoamingRiverElk

No

Magicka dks need mobility and significantly reduced blocking costs.

Saturn

Why only magicka dks?

Ajaxduo

No

Eh, maybe have it so dots tick harder when the target is in execute range. But it seems fine atm, I don't want another impale/executioner/jesus beam spam fest in my rotation. Gets kinda boring.

d8rmir

No

So in this forum you can ask a question, get answers, and then change the original question into a completely different one while keeping the answers? Cool.

Jhunn

No

Neither in PvE or PvP.

PvE DPS wise they're already performing well. PvP wise they need to get back, what they excelled at - sustain. They need stam regen while blocking, some kind of dynamic ultimate, a working Green Dragon Blood.

No excecute.

LorDrek

No

Only need rework some skills DBlood, some passives.

r.jan_emailb16_ESO

No

Jhunn wrote: »

Neither in PvE or PvP.

PvE DPS wise they're already performing well. PvP wise they need to get back, what they excelled at - sustain. They need stam regen while blocking, some kind of dynamic ultimate, a working Green Dragon Blood.

No excecute.

^this

Sugaroverdose

No

Ajaxduo wrote: »

Eh, maybe have it so dots tick harder when the target is in execute range. But it seems fine atm, I don't want another impale/executioner/jesus beam spam fest in my rotation. Gets kinda boring.

It can be a dot execute poison injection as a primer of execute dot, so why not.

Sugaroverdose

No

Saturn wrote: »

Why only magicka dks?

Because stamina DK have at least 3 executes as weapon option, while mDK doesn't have execute at all.

Silver_Strider

No

Idk, mDKs offer the most group utility of any class on top of being among one of the stronger DPS classes in the game with great sustain and survivability to boot. Giving them an execute would just make the class almost too perfect, missing only mobility.

You may be lacking in PvP a little bit but you have Vicious Death as an execute there so that makes up for it lol.

Derra

Not any more than sorcs need an anytime spam ability.

DK pve DPS is ok without a class execute ability.

Recremen

Yes

#BringBackMoltenArmaments2016

Sugaroverdose

No

Recremen wrote: »

#BringBackMoltenArmaments2016

For magdk who runs S&B it's completely useless.

Saturn

Sugaroverdose wrote: »

Saturn wrote: »

Why only magicka dks?

Because stamina DK have at least 3 executes as weapon option, while mDK doesn't have execute at all.

3? The only one I can think of is from the 2hander tree. Are you counting Steel Tornado as well?

Also, it is kind of dumb only catering to magicka builds with class abilities. I mean they are literally going through and changing a lot of skills around so it becomes more balanced. Plus the Nightblade class has an execute that scales with magicka and stamina, so not like it's unreasonable to ask for.

vortexman11

No

I don't believe DKs need an execute. I'm a firm believer that the only thing DKs need at this point is defensive buffs, not offensive buffs. We need a strong reliable heal that doesn't require you to be attacking an enemy (FIX DRAGONBLOOD). And Major Evasion while standing in your own Cinder Storm/Ash Cloud/Eruption.

If they want to bring back the old reflect mechanics that would be a plus, but I don't think they ever will.
Its simple though, if they improve our defence we can focus on offence.

Recremen

Yes

Sugaroverdose wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

#BringBackMoltenArmaments2016

For magdk who runs S&B it's completely useless.

Well that's not the only way to play a Magicka DK and not every ability needs to fit into every build. I see your point, though, would be nice to have something more versatile. I just miss my 40k heavy attacks against permablocking "unkillable" tanks. Like no, sorry, here's a hard counter to everything you're trying to do and which nobody else can deal with, have a nice day. Now only people with 40k execute is Templars with their 28-meter range undodgeable follow-you-everywhere Radiant Destruction. :-(

Armitas

No

We need something but I don't think an execute would be accurate to our needs. I think we need some actual survival outside of armor rating and a resto staff, and our noodle needs to be made al dente.

An execute would be nice and it would help I just think it would be like a detour rather than actually fixing the road.

Shadesofkin

No

My executes are reapplying the Kena buff and making sure my dots are still up, then hitting with all I've got.