Is Roleplaying cringeworthy?

kratier

No

i just play my character immersively, which adds to the enjoyment of the game

Taisynn

No

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

Taisynn wrote: »

Dracula was a classic horror film and the original vampire. Then some uneducated, fanatical mormon- housewife decided to introduce sparkling vampires... One is art, the other is cringeworthy.

Wooow, you say what I basically said in another thread...
Coincidence.

What... A lot of people feel this same way. There's only so many ways you can say it, you know.

stojekarcub18_ESO

No

I don't enjoy it personally, but more power to those that do. They are much better to the feel of the game than all the "JohnCena420"s and "ZOMG Pwned"s out there.

GrumpyDuckling

Yes

If I want to role-play an Argonian, hybrid sorcerer, pet using, heavy armor wearing, bow/resto staff wielding, character... then yes, role playing is cringeworthy. No one would want me on their team for difficult PVE content, or PVP.

Plus the lack of fun exploration in this game is painful. All the delves are pretty much the same. Skyrim, the game which got me into TES, had exploration value. I had hoped that ESO would be at least somewhat similar. But no.

I spend less time in ESO thinking about role play (which was all I did in Skyrim) and more time trying to come up with unique builds that are both effective and fun to role play.

nimander99

No

Only if you have no interest in participating in it... I suppose.

notimetocare

No

Are actors in your favorite show cringeworthy?

That said... As a roleplayer, I find tons of cringeworthy RP. This usually stems from terrible knowledge int he lore, terrible character concepts, and CONSTANT drama RPers.

BlueViolet

No

Feynn wrote: »

BlueViolet wrote: »

I'd love to roleplay more in ESO, but I rarely to never see anyone doing it. And from the amounts of threads I've seen about people complaining about randoms trying to join into their scenarios, I've never bothered contributing to the RP I have seen.

@BlueViolet , on which server and faction do you play? Sometimes it can be hard to find roleplayers due to the phased nature of the game, so most RPers tend to join RP community guilds or hub guilds, just to be sure they are able to find each other. It's also very useful to look for roleplay forums, a good place to start is www.teso-rp.com. If you happen to be on the EU megaserver, I'd be happy to give you more detailed information. Most roleplayers are happy to see new people take interest and join up, but sadly we are all too afraid of trolls, so it's important to gain people's trust first. Send them a whisper and ask if you could join. Or maybe join them when they are having a casual a chat in the local tavern first, rather than when they are planning a super secret heist on a noble's mansion.

@Feynn , I play on both EU and NA and have characters in all factions, though my characters with the most detailed backgrounds are in AD and DC - I rarely play EP

I have watched and read some roleplay and ooc discussion I saw when the game first launched, and I thought it would be nice to get involved with the group I was observing, until I saw an exchange that made me shy away. It wasn't ERP, which I don't care for at all, but it was a character idea that was shot down because it "might cause conflict"
A person had this ( I thought ) terrific idea for their Dunmer to play in the AD faction. They wanted their character to be something like a missionary, and try to bring the "word" of the Tribunal to those interested. It was however, dismissed by the other person as a terrible idea because it would cause conflict.
Personally, I thought that was the whole idea, but some people seem to be terrified of disagreements, fighting, or any kind of conflict, even within roleplay.
I myself prefer something like that storyline, even if it gets gritty and argumentative, rather than the happy sunshine rainbow bunnies of everyone always getting along, which I personally find rather boring. The key is never to take in character stuff personally.
I like it when people think outside the box, both in RP and character builds etc. Unique is always interesting.

Someone mentioned anti-rp groups earlier, especially in STO. Having had personal experience with those people of the "oral hygenie fleet", I understand that some roleplayers can feel discomfited, especially when observed by others who make fun of them while they're roleplaying or troll them with emotes, such as the drunken nord example earlier.

I am mostly in character, at least in my own head, when doing anything in ESO on my own. However, not when or if running a dungeon, unless it's an in character run. Other people don't want to be inconvenienced by my roleplaying during such things, and despite some of the scorn and derision for roleplayers, and outright attempts to disrupt their enjoyment, I am not lame enough to want to do the same to others by ruining their dungeons.

I remember reading a character bio in STO, and I don't quite think I've ever seen the likes of it again. The gentleman in question was apparently a mind reader, who lived in a space station in the middle of a black hole, which was protected from destruction by the force field surrounding it, generated by his mind powers. Even when he slept, the shield was always up. He never got tired of supporting it because he had the stamina of a hundred horses, and he could also impregnate women simply by thinking about it.
His best friend was a Klingon, who's life he had saved once, and he would intermittently switch between these two characters to wander into the station of sing the praises of the other.

THAT is the kind of roleplay I find cringeworthy.

AugustoCP

No

Hai

Be Doge

Such heal

Very enchant

Much shield

Wow

- Doctor Doge, 05/09/2016

Shadowfx1970

No

The poll is a bit vague but to a certain degree everyone is playing a role in an online game, they will act tough on the forums but wouldn't say boo to a fly in real life, others like to really get into role, no one says their favourite actor in their favourite film is cringeworthy.

However if it's specifically getting into character type role playing it has to be done right otherwise it could come across like the mass produced Syfy films with dodgy CGI and really bad acting then it can be a little cringeworthy.

cyclonus11

No

Only when they take it too far.

http://plays.tv/s/Klq4KWv9O6dO

lassitershawn

No

Nope, it actually looks kind of fun.

Shadowfx1970

No

cyclonus11 wrote: »

Only when they take it too far.

http://plays.tv/s/Klq4KWv9O6dO

This is so why we need player housing lol

Mojmir

i dont mind RP'ers except when im in a group dungeon and they decide it should be their "love nest". seriously?

LiquidSchwartz

No

No because youre playing a role playing game (rpg) mmo
So rp in the game makes sense
Ive never done it but ive given my toons backstories and it helps me enjoy the game on another level
Roleplayers gona roleplay

Grunim

No

So many people roleplay in various ways in this game. Maybe I made some in my group cringe today in Cyrodiil when we were waiting for a dolmen to spawn and I got bored and noticed my character was standing on glowing lava rocks so I decided to remove her boots and I told my group I was walking across hot coals.

Or what about all the times various players decide to use the dance emotes. So many people roleplay who don't even think what they are doing is roleplay, but it is!

I'm curious if the people who answered yes in this poll think using emotes is cringeworthy.

a1i3nz

No

Generally no. Not until THE CHOSEN ONE starts telling me what to do in Cyrodiil and I just let them fulfill their destiny... by dying.

Iink

Yes

Roleplayers are ***.

They are bossy, they exclude people, and you have to act ACCORDING to their script or you get muted.

Feynn

No

@BlueViolet ... yes, that example of RP that you described from Star Trek Online does indeed sound like something I'd want to stay away from. But then again, the poll is not about whether "some RP can be cringeworthy" but rather about whether the practice of roleplaying in general is cringeworthy.

I am sorry you had a negative experience regarding the Dunmer missionary in AD. I can tell you quite honestly that if someone came to play a Tribunal missionary in our RP community in DC I would be more than happy to log onto my priestess of the Eight Divines and engage that missionary in theological debates. My priestess character would jump at the chance of converting that missionary! Conflict can be a major driver of roleplay, as long as it's kept IC and as long as OOC relations are friendly and respectful. I personally don't avoid it, I embrace it!

If you ever feel like giving RP another go, you are more than welcome to try our EU-DC community, Stormhaven RP. We hold regular public events that all roleplayers are welcome to join. The next one is going to be this Wednesday evening, an introductory lecture on magical theory held by my main character at the Wayrest Mages Guild. A good way to learn and debate lore from an in-character perspective!

Eirikir

It can be good or bad, depends on the players really. I like to rp sure, but if its the main push of your game it can get weird. So like with anything, all things in moderation.

Feynn

No

Iink wrote: »

Roleplayers are ***.

They are bossy, they exclude people, and you have to act ACCORDING to their script or you get muted.

Whereas non-roleplayers are... prone to generalizations?

@Iink , you sound like you tried to engage in roleplay with other RPers but were put off by a negative initial experience. If that's the case would you like to share this experience? What is it that makes you express such a scathing judgment on roleplayers? If you are willing to elaborate, maybe other RPers can provide some feedback and advice, or even just learn from your experience.

Iink

Yes

Feynn wrote: »

Iink wrote: »

Roleplayers are ***.

They are bossy, they exclude people, and you have to act ACCORDING to their script or you get muted.

Whereas non-roleplayers are... prone to generalizations?

@Iink , you sound like you tried to engage in roleplay with other RPers but were put off by a negative initial experience. If that's the case would you like to share this experience? What is it that makes you express such a scathing judgment on roleplayers? If you are willing to elaborate, maybe other RPers can provide some feedback and advice, or even just learn from your experience.

Sure, I can provide pictures too. Hang on.

PriorityBalle

No

I roleplay all the time so of course its not cringeworthy, what a stupid question.

Iink

Yes

Feynn wrote: »

Iink wrote: »

Roleplayers are ***.

They are bossy, they exclude people, and you have to act ACCORDING to their script or you get muted.

Whereas non-roleplayers are... prone to generalizations?

@Iink , you sound like you tried to engage in roleplay with other RPers but were put off by a negative initial experience. If that's the case would you like to share this experience? What is it that makes you express such a scathing judgment on roleplayers? If you are willing to elaborate, maybe other RPers can provide some feedback and advice, or even just learn from your experience.

Early on in the game there were huge RPs. I Joined an RP guild. The first event was fun, and everyone got a fair role. After our first RP, the guild leader then started to do a horrible job of keeping track of the story. Often he would go set up RPs with other guilds and not even tell the guild an event was happening. Secondly, he did not keep us up to date as to what the current story of the RP was as he would progress the RP without the rest of the guild.

I teleported to him to join the RP, and because me going to him at the bottom of a building, he was supposed to be kidnapped or somthing, I broke the story apparently. RPers have strict scripts, and the guild leaders decide what happens in the story with other guild leaders. All the members are limited in what they can say or do in the RP. Also I was occasionally neglected in RPs due to my name not being "lore friendly" as well. But even re-rolling toons with lore based names, the strict rules continued to screw me over and defeat the purpose of having fun.

Anyway, because I teleported to my guild leader, [Snip], to join the RP and walked into a building I wasn't supposed to enter, I apparently broke the guild leader's script. And so he told all the 50 people in the RP to mute me. Worst of all, he didn't even tell me that he asked them to mute me, I found out the hard way. I continued to try and RP, and I noticed no one was responding to my actions or text until this happened:







Yeah, it's pretty funny. One player thought I was muted because of my name not being lore based, but when I asked my guild leader about it, he said it was because I teleported to him and ruined the story. So I got fed up and left that crappy guild. Telling all those players to ignore me was unnessecary not only does it block me out of the RP, but if I run across them again in the future, I can't even interact with them. The RP guild leader [Snip], was a ***. Big scale RP's are strict to the guild leader's script, bossy, and don't care about the other players. It's basically the guild leaders having fun as the main characters, and everyone else just stands around and aren't even allowed to talk.

Since then, I've tried to join RP's and people are quite exclusive and don't let people join in. Part of the problem is that my name isn't "lore accurate" enough, so pretentious RPers assume that I'm a troll. RPers in general that I've met just aren't friendly, and act exclusive.

If anyone knows [Snip], [Snip], or [Snip] guilds, I RPed with them, and had a terrible experience. RPers are just not enjoyable players in general.

[Edited to remove names]

guul

No

not cringeworthy but sometimes it's annoying. cuz some RP-people seem to have a lack of consideration for other people.

Iink

Yes

guulg wrote: »

not cringeworthy but sometimes it's annoying. cuz some RP-people seem to have a lack of consideration for other people.

Exactly. It's just the main characters of the RP having fun, and they don't let others talk. If they do, they break the "rules" and are booted. RPers like that are ***.

Twilix01

No

Iink wrote: »

Feynn wrote: »

Iink wrote: »

Roleplayers are ***.

They are bossy, they exclude people, and you have to act ACCORDING to their script or you get muted.

Whereas non-roleplayers are... prone to generalizations?

@Iink , you sound like you tried to engage in roleplay with other RPers but were put off by a negative initial experience. If that's the case would you like to share this experience? What is it that makes you express such a scathing judgment on roleplayers? If you are willing to elaborate, maybe other RPers can provide some feedback and advice, or even just learn from your experience.

Early on in the game there were huge RPs. I Joined an RP guild. The first event was fun, and everyone got a fair role. After our first RP, the guild leader then started to do a horrible job of keeping track of the story. Often he would go set up RPs with other guilds and not even tell the guild an event was happening. Secondly, he did not keep us up to date as to what the current story of the RP was as he would progress the RP without the rest of the guild.

I teleported to him to join the RP, and because me going to him at the bottom of a building, he was supposed to be kidnapped or somthing, I broke the story apparently. RPers have strict scripts, and the guild leaders decide what happens in the story with other guild leaders. All the members are limited in what they can say or do in the RP. Also I was occasionally neglected in RPs due to my name not being "lore friendly" as well. But even re-rolling toons with lore based names, the strict rules continued to screw me over and defeat the purpose of having fun.

Anyway, because I teleported to my guild leader, [Snip], to join the RP and walked into a building I wasn't supposed to enter, I apparently broke the guild leader's script. And so he told all the 50 people in the RP to mute me. Worst of all, he didn't even tell me that he asked them to mute me, I found out the hard way. I continued to try and RP, and I noticed no one was responding to my actions or text until this happened:







Yeah, it's pretty funny. One player thought I was muted because of my name not being lore based, but when I asked my guild leader about it, he said it was because I teleported to him and ruined the story. So I got fed up and left that crappy guild. Telling all those players to ignore me was unnessecary not only does it block me out of the RP, but if I run across them again in the future, I can't even interact with them. The RP guild leader [Snip], was a ***. Big scale RP's are strict to the guild leader's script, bossy, and don't care about the other players. It's basically the guild leaders having fun as the main characters, and everyone else just stands around and aren't even allowed to talk.

Since then, I've tried to join RP's and people are quite exclusive and don't let people join in. Part of the problem is that my name isn't "lore accurate" enough, so pretentious RPers assume that I'm a troll. RPers in general that I've met just aren't friendly, and act exclusive.

If anyone knows [Snip], [Snip], or [Snip] guilds, I RPed with them, and had a terrible experience. RPers are just not enjoyable players in general.

Reminds me of a guild I was in once that wouldn't allow me to have a character who was a daedra in disguise to join the guild IC when the guild was already plenty accepting towards vampires and werewolves. I left that one long ago and find myself enjoying smaller RP guilds that have an "anything goes" attitude about RP as long as all involved are okay with it, and you don't intentionally break established lore. Haven't found many that can compare, if you ever want to check us out you can find some of us hanging out at the Wayside Inn in Wind Keep, Stormhaven. NA server and DC of course. And don't worry about being "lore unfriendly", we're not that concerned about being strict to lore as long as we have fun.

Iink

Yes

Twilix01 wrote: »

Reminds me of a guild I was in once that wouldn't allow me to have a character who was a daedra in disguise to join the guild IC when the guild was already plenty accepting towards vampires and werewolves. I left that one long ago and find myself enjoying smaller RP guilds that have an "anything goes" attitude about RP as long as all involved are okay with it, and you don't intentionally break established lore. Haven't found many that can compare, if you ever want to check us out you can find some of us hanging out at the Wayside Inn in Wind Keep, Stormhaven. NA server and DC of course. And don't worry about being "lore unfriendly", we're not that concerned about being strict to lore as long as we have fun.

Good to hear that there are some chill RP guilds out there. The way it should me, RP's should be about having fun

Twilix01

No

Iink wrote: »

Twilix01 wrote: »

Reminds me of a guild I was in once that wouldn't allow me to have a character who was a daedra in disguise to join the guild IC when the guild was already plenty accepting towards vampires and werewolves. I left that one long ago and find myself enjoying smaller RP guilds that have an "anything goes" attitude about RP as long as all involved are okay with it, and you don't intentionally break established lore. Haven't found many that can compare, if you ever want to check us out you can find some of us hanging out at the Wayside Inn in Wind Keep, Stormhaven. NA server and DC of course. And don't worry about being "lore unfriendly", we're not that concerned about being strict to lore as long as we have fun.

Good to hear that there are some chill RP guilds out there. The way it should me, RP's should be about having fun

Oh I totally agree. Unfortunately some people treat it like their life and forget that roleplay is just about having fun, no need to complicate with politics or being petty by sending spies and stuff.

ArchMikem

Yes

Only to a point!

I've done some major role playing in my days, and it can be totally non-cringey if you and your partner(s) know what you're doing and take it SERIOUSLY. As in, you actually put effort into your role and descriptions. I'm speaking from a purely written form of RP however, I've never done it in-game through voice n'such. But through written out Roleplay, it can either be a really fun experience, or a total mood killer that establishes a bad Rep of either yourself, or the person you're with.

Roleplay is a way to fully immerse yourself into a character in a story. Instead of reading a story, you're placing yourself into that story and you more or less experience it first hand as you go along. The decisions the character makes are your decisions, and if you and your partner(s) agree on a more fluid set of rules then you can basically have your character do whatever you want.

The only times I've experienced a cringey Roleplay is when my partner doesn't know how to, or even refuses to put actual effort into their words. Short sentences. Basic actions. It's a big mood killer and an obvious tell that this person is not into it at all. My Ex, for all boundless imagination she has, was one such Roleplayer. Frankly, she sucked. But it's the people who have the same kind of desire to place themselves into who they play that makes for a wonderful story.

Morimizo

No

When I first saw a mortal play with rolls, I was outraged.

I was inraged.

I was standing-in-the-doorway-can't-decide-whether-to-go-outside-or-inside-me-palace-raged.

I mean, those are MY SWEET SOMERSAULTS!!!

But then I remembered, the hills roll, why can't the creatures?

I gave me rage to me great-great uncle's second estate's front lawn, and haven't had to mow it since.

Mostly Sincerely,
Uncle Sheo