Stamina or Magicka?

khele23eb17_ESO

Stamina

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Firerock2 wrote: »

khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »

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The initial game had more of a focus on magicka, it was better back then.

No it wasnt. It made half the playerbase (people who dont like playing casters) miserable.

Lmao, just what do you think a caster is?

CBA arguing semantics. A caster in the context of a stamina vs magicka discussion would be a character focusing on magicka use. A spell caster. Its one of the most iconic fantasy archetypes usually portrayed as a robe wearing, staff wielding magic user.

The 'stamina skills should add to magicka builds' is just pisssing all over half the player base unless the opposite also holds true i.e. there are builds based around physical feats rather than magic spells in which the latter are used as utility. And sure, post 1.6 meta has its flaws but since I prefer archetypes other than the spellcaster (rogue, assassin, archer, ranger, thief, scout, etc.) I would not like to go back to playing Elder Skirts&Staves Online. Id love to see the return of hybrid builds, just not at the cost of rogue/fighter playstyles.

So you would call a magicka DK who primarily uses talons and flame lash a caster class? You would call a Templar who uses puncturing strikes a caster? Puncturing strikes has the same functionality as the stamina morph of that skill. Would Templars still be considered casters if they went with the stamina morph?

Like I said in my previous post most of the magicka "spells" operate very similarly to stamina skills such as Crystal Fragments being similar to Wrecking Blow expect with increased range. So are you arguing that a caster is anyone who uses magic? Are you really arguing about aesthetics?

I stand by my point that even though I had to wear light armor, the actual gameplay was far more balanced then what we have now, not to mention the ttk was higher which WAS better. Your 1.6 meta that you prefer catered to a more narrow selection of roles and I don't see how that is balance. I don't care if people felt bad because they didn't like the way they look, if you play the game for that you should play something else like a dress up simulator or something. If Crystal Fragments got a stamina morph would you still call it a caster style ability or would you see it as the stam sorc is throwing a rock? Would you call them rangers then? ROFL

Gameplay > Aesthetics

Elder Skirts Online had better gameplay.

Lets sum up. Youre saying shooting a bow is pretty much the same as casting a spell with the only difference being aesthetics... And on some basic, simplistic level thats true. But that doesnt explain why physical feats should be secondary to magical feats. And also, why even have 2 separate resources if its all the same thing? If you simplify the issue this way then theres a better solution to your woes than going back to 1.5. A solution which would suit me just fine too. Remove magicka AND stamina. Replace it with one resource - lets say Action Points. Make every ability in game use it. The second resource would be called Fatigue Points and would be used solely for dodge/block/sprint. You could make a magic user, a physical feats expert or anything in between. Everybody wins.

And for the record aesthetics are a big deal. At this point it wouldnt surprise me if ZOS were making more money off aesthetics than off DLCs.

Derra

Both?

a1x23

Magicka

I have to say magicka cause i have better knowledge of set combinations. My stam builds' stats are always underwhelming. But I am trying to get better with my stam builds. Who knows, i might like stam better once I learn them better.

Lucius_Aelius

Stamina

Stamina for sure, I like swinging around giant swords and smacking people upside the head with them, very fun.