DOWN TIME 9PM FRIDAY NIGHT

howardeb17_ESO2

spawn_to_kill wrote: »

CCompletely unreasonable who ever authorized this needs a lesson in customer care why notwaituntill 5 am its a joke

I can't believe it. Friday evening!

But it seems they don't care.

wayfarerx

clocksstoppe wrote: »

MasterSpatula wrote: »

clocksstoppe wrote: »

MasterSpatula wrote: »

clocksstoppe wrote: »

SleepyTroll wrote: »

customer care is not letting an exploit get out of hand....

Here's how you do it without shutting down the server or letting it get out of hand: DISABLE ALL TRADING GLOBALLY FOR A FEW HOURS and then shut it down for patch.

They already said they have the relevant data tracked that lets them know who abused it, so the only reason to patch it is that it gets out of hand if the exploiters start trading away their exploited materials. If all forms of trading are disabled, there is no damage done and they can get banned later without ruining everyone's friday night.

But yeah, I assume nobody was bright enough at ZOS to implement these useful emergency global blocks, a shame.

Is there any evidence that they're even capable of globally disabling trade? Or, if they are, of doing so while servers are live?

And even if there is, trade is a major part of the game. If they disabled trade for a few hours, these forums would be full of people with actual cause to complain complaining instead of what we have right now, a few selfish people insisting that getting their way is more important than the good of the overall game.

Seriously, just stop. There is no argument to be made that you guys are right on this, and the more you keep trying to find one, the worse you guys look.

Can you explain how not playing at all is worse than playing but not trading at all?

I assume you meant to say better instead of worse. And yes, I can.

Immediately fixing the issue gets everyone back into a functioning properly (at least regarding this issue) game as soon as possible. Disabling trading, if it's even doable, has players in the game unable to do a significant percentage of the game until it's convenient to fix. Maybe that doesn't matter to you, but there are plenty of players who value trading. There's even a notable number of players who consider trading their main activity. For them, the game would be hobbled and broken for several hours just for your convenience.

I swear, actually thinking about other people besides yourself isn't a difficult. I don't understand why so many people seem incapable of it.

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So you're saying they should take the server down, disable all guild traders, player-to-player trading, mail attachments and guild banks, bring the server back up, wait until a convenient time for you, take the server down again, re-enable all trading and fix the exploit? As opposed to just take the server down and fix the exploit?

Really?

dtm_samuraib16_ESO

But, but, ain't trading a part of the game?
Thus, taking the game down, does in fact takes trade down, no?

Well, that is what they did, nothing we can do about this now.

stumpy999

no I meant what I said

folks getting on and doing quest, pve, pvp etc but never seeing a trader is better than not being able to play at all

if you are a meta game trader cool, no worries, but most others are not.

So I am thinking of the majority of players that are non traders being kept off the game, To turn your own argument against you, why are you not thinking about the majority?

I am thinking about others, you seem to be fixated on your subgroup

clocksstoppe

wayfarerx wrote: »

clocksstoppe wrote: »

MasterSpatula wrote: »

clocksstoppe wrote: »

MasterSpatula wrote: »

clocksstoppe wrote: »

SleepyTroll wrote: »

customer care is not letting an exploit get out of hand....

Here's how you do it without shutting down the server or letting it get out of hand: DISABLE ALL TRADING GLOBALLY FOR A FEW HOURS and then shut it down for patch.

They already said they have the relevant data tracked that lets them know who abused it, so the only reason to patch it is that it gets out of hand if the exploiters start trading away their exploited materials. If all forms of trading are disabled, there is no damage done and they can get banned later without ruining everyone's friday night.

But yeah, I assume nobody was bright enough at ZOS to implement these useful emergency global blocks, a shame.

Is there any evidence that they're even capable of globally disabling trade? Or, if they are, of doing so while servers are live?

And even if there is, trade is a major part of the game. If they disabled trade for a few hours, these forums would be full of people with actual cause to complain complaining instead of what we have right now, a few selfish people insisting that getting their way is more important than the good of the overall game.

Seriously, just stop. There is no argument to be made that you guys are right on this, and the more you keep trying to find one, the worse you guys look.

Can you explain how not playing at all is worse than playing but not trading at all?

I assume you meant to say better instead of worse. And yes, I can.

Immediately fixing the issue gets everyone back into a functioning properly (at least regarding this issue) game as soon as possible. Disabling trading, if it's even doable, has players in the game unable to do a significant percentage of the game until it's convenient to fix. Maybe that doesn't matter to you, but there are plenty of players who value trading. There's even a notable number of players who consider trading their main activity. For them, the game would be hobbled and broken for several hours just for your convenience.

I swear, actually thinking about other people besides yourself isn't a difficult. I don't understand why so many people seem incapable of it.

Nice double standards, Mr. Shekelstein, but for most people playing the actual game comes over trading so it would be better for ZOS to just temp disable trading. Looks like YOU are the one incapable of thinking about other people.

So you're saying they should take the server down, disable all guild traders, player-to-player trading, mail attachments and guild banks, bring the server back up, wait until a convenient time for you, take the server down again, re-enable all trading and fix the exploit? As opposed to just take the server down and fix the exploit?

Really?

I didn't say they would disable banks. What's the point in that? And yes apart from that it's really the solution to keep prime time nice for people. Delay and then fix and ban exploiters. What's the problem with it?

Stump

This whole thread is pointless.
The forums are filled with whiney threads "ZOS, FIX YOUR BROKEN GAME".
So ZOS actually says "Yea we are listening. Here we will fix it."
So the forums go "HOW DARE YOU TAKE THE SERVER DOWN TO FIX IT."

I'm sure people at ZOS are just facepalming reading this

Immortal_Dark410

spawn_to_kill wrote: »

they could wait7 hours instead of ruining primetime at weekend

If its an exploit & ZOS cares, which it seems they do in this instance, then obviously their not gonna wait at your or anyone else's expense for convenience. There going to shut server down and fix exploit, if they didn't then it would get way out of hand.

starlizard70ub17_ESO

There's the PTS you can play on and test things while they're fixing the writ problem.

dtm_samuraib16_ESO

clocksstoppe wrote: »

I didn't say they would disable guild banks. What's the point in that?

Oh, I don't know.
Maybe store the "illegally gained mats" in there?

MakJulos

LOL..if this exploit is something that has been going on since TG went live why not leave the hotfix until a couple hours later, jee... But, even if you have your priorities wrong when it comes to timing hotfixes it's nice that you came up with a fix for it at all - now get onto the Cyrodiil lag!

Callous2208

I pray that everyone affected by this most recent catastrophe can find some peace and comfort in the days ahead. Not being able to play a game for a few hours, sheesh, I just fear that the psychological damages that this event has brought upon you may be detrimental and long lasting. Perhaps next time, they will get in contact with each and every person on the server, and ensure these actions are acceptable, before moving forward with any silly plans to "fix" an economy breaking exploit. Hang in there, you brave and battle tested Europeans, you have our sympathy and support.

Immortal_Dark410

Stump wrote: »

This whole thread is pointless.
The forums are filled with whiney threads "ZOS, FIX YOUR BROKEN GAME".
So ZOS actually says "Yea we are listening. Here we will fix it."
So the forums go "HOW DARE YOU TAKE THE SERVER DOWN TO FIX IT."

I'm sure people at ZOS are just facepalming reading this

I LOL'd at this cuz its true lol

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

clocksstoppe wrote: »

SleepyTroll wrote: »

customer care is not letting an exploit get out of hand....

Here's how you do it without shutting down the server or letting it get out of hand: DISABLE ALL TRADING GLOBALLY FOR A FEW HOURS and then shut it down for patch.

They already said they have the relevant data tracked that lets them know who abused it, so the only reason to patch it is that it gets out of hand if the exploiters start trading away their exploited materials. If all forms of trading are disabled, there is no damage done and they can get banned later without ruining everyone's friday night.

But yeah, I assume nobody was bright enough at ZOS to implement these useful emergency global blocks, a shame.

Ya that will go over well. 1000s and 1000s of support tickets later they realize this was a dumb idea.

wayfarerx

clocksstoppe wrote: »

I didn't say they would disable guild banks. What's the point in that?

You can use guild banks to trade between players.

stumpy999

cool beans, then do that whilst I play

scorpiodog

Frawr wrote: »

Thing is, this exploit has been around for how long? I am not convinced that it was so urgent as to require friday evening maintenance.

/rollseyes.

Yes - It's all a conspiracy.
/rollseyes

clocksstoppe

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

clocksstoppe wrote: »

I didn't say they would disable guild banks. What's the point in that?

Oh, I don't know.
Maybe store the "illegally gained mats" in there?

My bad, i thought you meant player banks. Yeah guild banks as well. But regardless, seems like they don't have this functionality in their servers. So as an MMO server developer they are doing a pretty terrible job.

Immortal_Dark410

Callous2208 wrote: »

I pray that everyone affected by this most recent catastrophe can find some peace and comfort in the days ahead. Not being able to play a game for a few hours, sheesh, I just fear that the psychological damages that this event has brought upon you may be detrimental and long lasting. Perhaps next time, they will get in contact with each and every person on the server, and ensure these actions are acceptable, before moving forward with any silly plans to "fix" an economy breaking exploit. Hang in there, you brave and battle tested Europeans, you have our sympathy and support.

lol

stumpy999

Wait

They are deploying unicorns!

I always wanted a pony

dtm_samuraib16_ESO

clocksstoppe wrote: »

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

clocksstoppe wrote: »

I didn't say they would disable guild banks. What's the point in that?

Oh, I don't know.
Maybe store the "illegally gained mats" in there?

My bad, i thought you meant player banks. Yeah guild banks as well. But regardless, seems like they don't have this functionality in their servers. So as an MMO server developer they are doing a pretty terrible job.

but they DO, in fact.
Power Off does all this, and MOAR, even...

FLuFFyxMuFFiN

Holy spit this is insane. God forbid they fix the game.

Humatiel

I pray that everyone affected by this most recent catastrophe can find some peace and comfort in the days ahead. Not being able to play a game for a few hours, sheesh, I just fear that the psychological damages that this event has brought upon you may be detrimental and long lasting. Perhaps next time, they will get in contact with each and every person on the server, and ensure these actions are acceptable, before moving forward with any silly plans to "fix" an economy breaking exploit. Hang in there, you brave and battle tested Europeans, you have our sympathy and support.

was going to troll for a bit but one cannot add to perfection, you sir are a god.

FortheloveofKrist

WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING!?!??!!

ChrispyRambo

Damn, Now I'll have to pay attention to my family!

Parafrost

Ajaxduo wrote: »

So you would rather give exploiters more time to amount more legendary tempers and gold? Consider this a good thing. In swtor they would let exploits run rampant for months before doing anything.

They are getting the Wrobelbanhammer

anitajoneb17_ESO

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

Something about survey reports, and a website?
Just what is this about?

From what I understood...

It was possible to get a writ survey report.[snip]
Not sure how long this had been possible (maybe it has always been ?) but the info was spreading like wildfire and if they hadn't acted on this in emergency many people would have spent the whole night harvesting resources that way.

Not sure it would have been "game breaking" or "destroying the economy" for I can understand that ZOS doesn't want to have to ban or undertake disciplinary actions against thousands and thousands of players.

[edited for exploit details]

Ah, so thousands of players are involved?
A reason more they should reward every player with something that was not involved in the exploit.
If they won't punish the bad apples, they SURELY can reward the good folks?
Same coin, different side.

I don't know how many players were involved, but at the speed the info was spreading, it WOULD HAVE been thousands by tomorrow if they hadn't taken action.

@moderation : sorry for "explaining", I thought it was ok now that it's being fixed anyway. And I didn't really say anything more than what Gina said ;-) but I apologize anyway.

FLuFFyxMuFFiN

Maintenance is done the QQ can stop now. Thanks!

stumpy999

too late

just

too late

Parafrost

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

Maintenance is done the QQ can stop now. Thanks!

down for ps4 users now #fridayruinedbyexploiters. Thanks Obama.

Moonshadow66

I don't think they would do a maintenance at this time of day on a Friday if it wouldn't be absolutely necessary.