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GoodOlPinkly
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To just add "all damage shields last 6 secs" to the battle spirit passive in pvp.....
Edited by GoodOlPinkly on April 29, 2016 5:43PM
  • Sugaroverdose
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    To just add "all damage shields last 6 secs" to the battle spirit passive in pvp.....
    Good idea in fact.
  • Archmage1
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    Make it 10sec, and only under the Battle Spirit passive. PVE players will be happy, and ZOS can accomplish the same thing in PVP. @ZOS_GinaBruno , what do you think?
  • Cathexis
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    I think if they substantially reduce the base casting cost, it will be fine for most people. Seriously though, you're shields barely last 3 seconds in combat anyway before you need a recast, there is too much crying i think.
    Edited by Cathexis on April 29, 2016 6:18PM
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  • GoodOlPinkly
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    Cathexis wrote: »
    I think if they substantially reduce the base casting cost, it will be fine for most people. Seriously though, you're shields barely last 3 seconds in combat anyway before you need a recast, there is too much crying i think.

    Yeah I'm not a sorc I'm a templar, and honestly mag sorcs are the hardest for me to fight.... But that's the best part when I see a mag sorc I know they will be stacking shields and I know I have to be on my game. I just think I'd they want 6 secs so bad across the board then bam add it to the battle spirit that way sorcs won't be so mad about the real pve part of it.
  • Archmage1
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    Cathexis wrote: »
    I think if they substantially reduce the base casting cost, it will be fine for most people. Seriously though, you're shields barely last 3 seconds in combat anyway before you need a recast, there is too much crying i think.

    You are only looking at it from the PVP perspective. Shields last much longer in all forms of PVE, especially group play. This change will hurt all Sorcs, who are already low on the DPS front compared to other classes. This will push Sorc's DPS even lower, hinder the DPS rotation, and drain magicka due to the constant recast of shields.

    Again, @ZOS_GinaBruno please seriously consider separating PVE from PVP...you have Battle Spirit already, use it here.
  • Cathexis
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    Cathexis wrote: »
    I think if they substantially reduce the base casting cost, it will be fine for most people. Seriously though, you're shields barely last 3 seconds in combat anyway before you need a recast, there is too much crying i think.

    Yeah I'm not a sorc I'm a templar, and honestly mag sorcs are the hardest for me to fight.... But that's the best part when I see a mag sorc I know they will be stacking shields and I know I have to be on my game. I just think I'd they want 6 secs so bad across the board then bam add it to the battle spirit that way sorcs won't be so mad about the real pve part of it.

    Agree
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  • Dyride
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    Cathexis wrote: »
    I think if they substantially reduce the base casting cost, it will be fine for most people. Seriously though, you're shields barely last 3 seconds in combat anyway before you need a recast, there is too much crying i think.

    Yeah I'm not a sorc I'm a templar, and honestly mag sorcs are the hardest for me to fight.... But that's the best part when I see a mag sorc I know they will be stacking shields and I know I have to be on my game. I just think I'd they want 6 secs so bad across the board then bam add it to the battle spirit that way sorcs won't be so mad about the real pve part of it.

    Except that sorcs enjoy a huge advantage in running vMSA as well?
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    1. Cathexis
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      Dyride wrote: »
      Cathexis wrote: »
      I think if they substantially reduce the base casting cost, it will be fine for most people. Seriously though, you're shields barely last 3 seconds in combat anyway before you need a recast, there is too much crying i think.

      Yeah I'm not a sorc I'm a templar, and honestly mag sorcs are the hardest for me to fight.... But that's the best part when I see a mag sorc I know they will be stacking shields and I know I have to be on my game. I just think I'd they want 6 secs so bad across the board then bam add it to the battle spirit that way sorcs won't be so mad about the real pve part of it.

      Except that sorcs enjoy a huge advantage in running vMSA as well?

      People run vmsa?
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    2. GoodOlPinkly
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      Dyride wrote: »
      Cathexis wrote: »
      I think if they substantially reduce the base casting cost, it will be fine for most people. Seriously though, you're shields barely last 3 seconds in combat anyway before you need a recast, there is too much crying i think.

      Yeah I'm not a sorc I'm a templar, and honestly mag sorcs are the hardest for me to fight.... But that's the best part when I see a mag sorc I know they will be stacking shields and I know I have to be on my game. I just think I'd they want 6 secs so bad across the board then bam add it to the battle spirit that way sorcs won't be so mad about the real pve part of it.

      Except that sorcs enjoy a huge advantage in running vMSA as well?

      Yeah but we will have that advantage now with harness?
    3. Ajaxduo
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      Good idea tbh
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    4. bloodenragedb14_ESO
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      To just add "all damage shields last 6 secs" to the battle spirit passive in pvp.....

      we can only dream, cant we? If only the Devs would take the rational choice in balance fixes.
    5. Morimizo
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      This seems a reasonable solution, but...

      Why does the LENGTH of the shield matter, other than as a quality of life improvement in between skirmishes?

      Even in PVE, if the fight is intense, I find that my shield can be depleted in way less than 6 seconds, much less 20. The only reason to have it last longer is if I cast it before the fight, and for some reason don't get hit at all for a bit, but that's not a disadvantage to the attacker, or an advantage to me; the fight hasn't officially started yet.

      Perhaps someone can extrapolate why the time of the shield directly coincides with how long it lasts when it's been hit? Does it make the shield stronger?
    6. GoodOlPinkly
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      Morimizo wrote: »
      This seems a reasonable solution, but...

      Why does the LENGTH of the shield matter, other than as a quality of life improvement in between skirmishes?

      Even in PVE, if the fight is intense, I find that my shield can be depleted in way less than 6 seconds, much less 20. The only reason to have it last longer is if I cast it before the fight, and for some reason don't get hit at all for a bit, but that's not a disadvantage to the attacker, or an advantage to me; the fight hasn't officially started yet.

      Perhaps someone can extrapolate why the time of the shield directly coincides with how long it lasts when it's been hit? Does it make the shield stronger?

      Sorcs usually use there shield in there rotation so it would be a dps lost having to really it so often In PVE, on the other hand in pvp to me it gives sorcs an UNfair advantage with a 20 sec shield because idk about you but it's hard to come back from a night blade 2 shotting me from sneak, while running around, but a sorc can let his shield eat those then just run away or reapply shields.. That's how I see it I guess.
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