Champion Point cap not raised with any DLC's so far

failkiwib16_ESO

Champion Point cap not raised with any DLC's so far..

Why is this not so?

Firerock2

Because they suck.

failkiwib16_ESO

@Firerock2 I have anticipated this since they put a cap an said that they would raise it with each new DLC.. I even happily grinded content to reach the cap, and looked forward to advance my main char ...kinda makes me feel stupid

Firerock2

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

@Firerock2 I have anticipated this since they put a cap an said that they would raise it with each new DLC.. I even happily grinded content to reach the cap, and looked forward to advance my main char ...kinda makes me feel stupid

Even though I think CPs spell the death of PvP I understand your disappointment, everyone should by now lol. How many promises has ZOS fallen through on?

Moonshadow66

If only we could at least assign 1 CP per day until the cap is raised again, that would be something. 1 CP up to the next cap (552, I think?), not higher.

RazielSR

Do you people understand the big change and possible bugs that are coming with the VR removal? If they raise the cap the madness could go to infinite limits. They need to see first how does it works.

Why are some people that obsessed with cp? Once you have 50 more cp to spend...do you think you are gonna have a char that different???

Enjoy the game(the game is not just an stupid cp grind) or just leave. Believe me,zos wont notice. You can play other games in the meantime.

leipatemeibbaa

CP cap needs to increase to at least 800.

ZOS first released the CP system for us to grind, then they introduced EXP potion that encourage ppl to grind on IC DLC. When orc DLC was released they put a CP cap on top of everybody so grinding CP means nothing as long as CP reaches 501.

Nice~~~

RazielSR

Someday,maybe,you will understand that zos is a company running a business, not your way to show your virtual power.

They dont need people with 800cp. They need new players that buy crown stores items and dlcs.
Its normal.

Magdalina

RazielSR wrote: »

Someday,maybe,you will understand that zos is a company running a business, not your way to show your virtual power.

They dont need people with 800cp. They need new players that buy crown stores items and dlcs.
Its normal.

Imo a long-term business should be interested in keeping its customers.
Breaking promises time and again and again is not a good way to keep customers.

Which bring us to either the competence of ZOS' headquarters' decisions far as business planning goes or...makes one wonder if they are not really planning to be a long-term business and just trying to grab some cash as fast as they can.

failkiwib16_ESO

@Firerock2 well after many months of complains we at least got a non-cp campaign, that was a needed option.

@Moonshadow66 cp should have been raised with each new DLC.. at least thats what we were told.

@RazielSR yes, 30 champion points are enough to unlock 3 passives in skill-trees you haven't invested in yet. It doesn't make or break any builds, but it gives progress.

btw. I am not obsessed by cp's. I play this game mainly because of the social aspect of it, but I still enjoy it to some degree. I care a lot about my guild and ingame friends, so I will not abandon ESO anytime soon.

Nyx2

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

Champion Point cap not raised with any DLC's so far..

Why is this not so?

The better question is: why should they?

Can you only be happy with a game if you can keep pushing random numbers into infinity?

Korah_Eaglecry

I think the biggest issue is how they may be looking at the metrics. Im assuming theyre looking at the broader playerbase and not exactly what these types of players are doing with their time.

If theyre holding back because of a casual player that often solos in PvE and occassionally jumps into PvP. Then theyre making a mistake with assuming that this casual will ever catch up to those already capped out or closing in on it. These are players that will slow crawl through the content, and the Champion Points. And they should have zero impact on the decision to increase the CP Cap. Those players will not close that gap any time soon.

The players they should be looking at are those in between. Theyre more active, but arent as active as the hardcore Endgamers and PvPers. These are the players that are going to close the gap sooner than later. And should be the emphasis for ZOS decision to increase or keep in place the cap. As these are the players most likely to begin making up ground and gaining on those already at cap.

Its a fools errand to try and tailor the cap towards the greater playerbase.

Nogawd

Gosh, some geeks are the most whiny, entitled, cry babies on the internet.

Gives the rest of us geeks a bad name.

RazielSR

Magdalina wrote: »

RazielSR wrote: »

Someday,maybe,you will understand that zos is a company running a business, not your way to show your virtual power.

They dont need people with 800cp. They need new players that buy crown stores items and dlcs.
Its normal.

Imo a long-term business should be interested in keeping its customers.
Breaking promises time and again and again is not a good way to keep customers.

Which bring us to either the competence of ZOS' headquarters' decisions far as business planning goes or...makes one wonder if they are not really planning to be a long-term business and just trying to grab some cash as fast as they can.

They dont need to keep customers. Long term business is not profitable anymore in the mmo world.

This game is more like an rpg online experience not the typical mmo.

Moonshadow66

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

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@Moonshadow66 cp should have been raised with each new DLC.. at least thats what we were told.
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I know, but since this isn't happening, apparently, I suggested 1 CP per day to assign (if over the cap) to have at least something until the next CP raise step.
Don't understand me wrong, I AM disappointed that the CP raise with the DB update was cancelled (maybe not even considered, who knows...).

Iyas

A mmo need progression. Im disappointed. Not the first time with eso thought. My expectations are already very low so its difficult to disappoint me

failkiwib16_ESO

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

I know, but since this isn't happening, apparently, I suggested 1 CP per day to assign (if over the cap) to have at least something until the next CP raise step.
Don't understand me wrong, I AM disappointed that the CP raise with the DB update was cancelled (maybe not even considered, who knows...).

@Moonshadow66 ahh sorry my bad. Yes a system like that would be good too.. hell even 1 cp a week would be better than 100% blocked progression.

@Iyas I'm afraid I'm starting to feel that way too.

Moonshadow66

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

I know, but since this isn't happening, apparently, I suggested 1 CP per day to assign (if over the cap) to have at least something until the next CP raise step.
Don't understand me wrong, I AM disappointed that the CP raise with the DB update was cancelled (maybe not even considered, who knows...).

@Moonshadow66 ahh sorry my bad. Yes a system like that would be good too.. hell even 1 cp a week would be better than 100% blocked progression.
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I was about to write that as another option, too (1 CP per week, if not per day)

Nyx2

Iyas wrote: »

A mmo need progression. Im disappointed. Not the first time with eso thought. My expectations are already very low so its difficult to disappoint me

Says who? Your progression is 1-50. Then there is this thing called end game content. People already have a hard time reaching that with all the vet (now CP) grinding necessary but you ask for even more? What's the point of this dull grinding?

RazielSR

The best is to wait until the next dlc after db once all the vr removal is going ok and raise the cap by 100 every dlc or every 3 months.

Korah_Eaglecry

Nyx2 wrote: »

Iyas wrote: »

A mmo need progression. Im disappointed. Not the first time with eso thought. My expectations are already very low so its difficult to disappoint me

Says who? Your progression is 1-50. Then there is this thing called end game content. People already have a hard time reaching that with all the vet (now CP) grinding necessary but you ask for even more? What's the point of this dull grinding?

ZOS does. Theyve stated numerous times that the post level 50 progression is CP. Its why CP was introduced, its why VR is being removed.

Reaching 160 CP is far from a grind. I have two VR 2s and Im already at 104 CP. And Im not even trying to work for CP. Its just happened over the course of the last two DLCs as I played through the storylines in Wrothgar and Hews Bane. I popped two CP last night by just completing two jobs boards(the typical steal x treasure was only the first level), a heist and the final Thieves Guild quest and Im already well on my way to another one. The current scaling of CP gain the less CP you have expedites it by leaps and bounds. I had something like 30 CP before Wrothgar and now after two long breaks between DLCs. Im about 1/5th the way to the cap.

notimetocare

Because even with an easy catchup mechanic, super casuals are still behind.

Svalinn

I think they really shouldn't raise CP cap for now... if they really want to keep having Cp in the game FIRST they have to create content that scales up to CP 501... and AFTER maybe think about raising it.

As things are now we have players at CP 501 that play a content maxed out at CP 160, raising the CP even more at this point in time is nonsense

Maotti

It's because those who logs once a month are being taken more into consideration then those who actively play the game.

Iyas

Nyx2 wrote: »

Iyas wrote: »

A mmo need progression. Im disappointed. Not the first time with eso thought. My expectations are already very low so its difficult to disappoint me

Says who? Your progression is 1-50. Then there is this thing called end game content. People already have a hard time reaching that with all the vet (now CP) grinding necessary but you ask for even more? What's the point of this dull grinding?

If you progression is simply playing to max lvl, then it could be enough for you. I already have 7 chars to vr 16. My goal is the constant improvement of my chars. There are no improvement possibilities anymore.

And I know more ppl with capped cps for month than without. Whats the point of this constant stop to char improvement?

CP system was promised and promoted as a vertical progression system. I am not able to further progress my chars and with PvP crippled with lag, there is nothing left for me. Have all my maelstrom wpns, everything I need from monster helmets and cyrodil and I have this for months now.

Nyx2

Iyas wrote: »

Nyx2 wrote: »

Iyas wrote: »

A mmo need progression. Im disappointed. Not the first time with eso thought. My expectations are already very low so its difficult to disappoint me

Says who? Your progression is 1-50. Then there is this thing called end game content. People already have a hard time reaching that with all the vet (now CP) grinding necessary but you ask for even more? What's the point of this dull grinding?

If you progression is simply playing to max lvl, then it could be enough for you. I already have 7 chars to vr 16. My goal is the constant improvement of my chars. There are no improvement possibilities anymore.

And I know more ppl with capped cps for month than without. Whats the point of this constant stop to char improvement?

CP system was promised and promoted as a vertical progression system. I am not able to further progress my chars and with PvP crippled with lag, there is nothing left for me. Have all my maelstrom wpns, everything I need from monster helmets and cyrodil and I have this for months now.

You've reached the end. Your characters aren't some gods that infinitely get stronger and stronger. Ask for more difficult content, not more pointless grinding. PvP isn't going to improve by making a bigger gap between new players and end game players. If anything, it makes PvP worse with imbalance.

failkiwib16_ESO

Nyx2 wrote: »

You've reached the end. Your characters aren't some gods that infinitely get stronger and stronger. Ask for more difficult content, not more pointless grinding. PvP isn't going to improve by making a bigger gap between new players and end game players. If anything, it makes PvP worse with imbalance.

For your information:

• Champion Points used to be uncapped. All those who had reached or been beyond the cap at the time were the cap was implemwnted, have had their progress artificially blocked. Before the implementation of the cap, ZOS promised to raise it with every new DLC. This remains to be seen.
• There is already implemented battlescaling, battlespirit, nerf to damage + shield + healing and a non-veteran + a non-cp campaign in cyrodiil for all who wishes to be on equal level with those they wish to play with and against.

There are already threads requesting for more endgame content, and I want this particular issue adressed to as well.

Nyx2

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

Nyx2 wrote: »

You've reached the end. Your characters aren't some gods that infinitely get stronger and stronger. Ask for more difficult content, not more pointless grinding. PvP isn't going to improve by making a bigger gap between new players and end game players. If anything, it makes PvP worse with imbalance.

a non-veteran + a non-cp campaign in cyrodiil for all who wishes to be on equal level with those they wish to play with and against. [/list]

Oh, you mean those AD private server campaigns? Yeah, really fun. With the removal of vet ranks they've done nothing but go in the opposite direction you want them to. Rightly so. There has to be proper balance.

mertusta

RazielSR wrote: »

Someday,maybe,you will understand that zos is a company running a business, not your way to show your virtual power.

They dont need people with 800cp. They need new players that buy crown stores items and dlcs.
Its normal.

Making money is normal, however breaking every single promise is not. They promised that they will increase the cap with db. I'm not obsessed with cp cap and I do not care. But this does not change the fact that they lied us again. Again.