What do you think of the nerfs to shield stacking?

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PhatGrimReaper wrote: »

YurtTheSilentChief wrote: »

Excellent!!!
Finally Sorc got nerfed!!!!
Today, I am going to have a party for this occasion.

Brah... you do realise that sorcs will now mitigate all physical & magicka damage with those 6 seconds shields right?

Before, as a stam user you only had to chew through the Hardened Ward, now you'll have to get through the Harness too.

Sorcs just got harder to kill!

Shieldbreaker + Stamina drain poison = have fun with cc break

sphane

Shield stacking is buffed. Shield duration nerfed.

Sorc play style Will have to be more dynamic in pvp and natural selection Will eliminate bad sorc Who Will reroll nb. So more nb everywhere. For that reason This move is not a very good thing to me.

Vercingetorix

The nerf doesn't change anything in PvP and only ended up hurting Sorcs in PvE.

ADarklore

If you read the comment by Wroebel regarding damage shields, he said that players were playing both offense AND defense easily and they want players to pick one or the other, so now it will take a lot more skill to do both.

RebornV3x

ZOS done messed up duration was never an issue it won't fix shield stacking since shields in pvp are always being recasted and barely last 6 seconds this nerf will hurt PVE players most there's was a lot better ways to fix shield stacking and they didn't do it.

DEATHquidox

Torbschka wrote: »

Its a nerf guys, but I really appreciate it (as a sorc).

I know u can have 2 shields now which are great against stam and magicka dmg. However, if u cast both shields and have to weapon swap (assuming u have it on your backbar) ur first shield will only last 4.5-5 seconds, ur second 5-5.5 seconds (how fast you are and how this new animation cancelling works out).

Then u play vs a decent player who is cc'ing u every 4 seconds (fear, fossilize whatever). Man, u have to cast it all the time and all u pro sorcs, yeah dont trash talk me, I also cast it very often, but if u go for the kill and just throw your combo out U CANT CAST IT, now it will only last 1-2 seconds, u got cc-ed, boom, done.

Its a nerf, I guarentee u, but I really appreciate it cuz now all the FOTM mages will go opefully it opens more different playstyle to sorcs, maybe even a heavy armor without shields, who knows

Actually this just brought damage to a halt for everyone stam does crazy damage fast and so now magicka can just sit back and tank it out then produce numbers really because ur not getting threw my healing ward hardened and a annulment lol I promise you that much maybe I need to learn to animation cancel but it's hard with a controller

Magdalina

ADarklore wrote: »

If you read the comment by Wroebel regarding damage shields, he said that players were playing both offense AND defense easily and they want players to pick one or the other, so now it will take a lot more skill to do both.

So...buffing shield stacking and giving stamina builds a Hardened Ward in addition to (endless) rolldodge is supposed to make players have to sacrifice defence for offence? Do we live in parallel worlds or something?

Rva_Kun

Nerf? LMAO. -1

DurzoBlint13

nerf to shield stacking??? What nerf? Stacking shields got a buff due to the extra mitigation. Only the time the shield lasts got a nerf. IMO they need to double the cost of a shield if you already have one applied. I only hope they do something different when it goes live.

Digiman

They only made shield stacking more prevalent. Now instead of dealing with one shield that absorbs damage while the other absorbs just magicka you now have to plough through 2 damage shields instead.

Also now everyone has access to it, people will be immune to crit, this was fine with sorcerers because they would get one shotted if their shields were gone but think about a templer or nightblade with a damage shield?

Nothing got solved, everything got complicated.

Make shields crittable and you could adjust that cyrodiil reduction to balance it.

To top it off sorcerers get their damage from setting up with procs, their isn't an instant burst damage hence why shield stacking was effective for them.

This patch will be a nightmare for PvP I can tell you.

Digiman

psychotic13 wrote: »

Tyrion87 wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

its not a nerf.... lol. if you think those of us unkillable sorcs you were all complaining about werent already refreshing shields every six seconds.... on boy do I have a surprise for you

So how weak your dmg shields are if they don't last more than 6 seconds? Mine last longer.

Doesn't mean the shields are weak, but I'm guessing you're not playing a lot of PvP or 1vX if you think you that reapplying them every 6 seconds would make them
Weak.

If you're fighting a lot of players, you're taking a lot of damage, and if you think your shield would last more
Than 6 seconds then you are mistaken.

PvE on the other hand, it's going to hurt having to swap bars so much to recast (if you have shields on the back bar) resulting in lowering your dps.

Surprisingly it cripples us in PvE and does nothing but hurt PvP.

Asherons_Call

How is shield duration from 20 seconds down to 6 seconds a nerf? Do you think we only need to cast it every 20 seconds? We are ALREADY re-applying shields within 6 seconds. There is no change to sorc viability unless I'm missing something in the natch potes

imenace

where is the nerf to shield stacking ?? in pvp it doesnt matter because you refresh ur shields every 6 seconds anyway + shield stacking is much stronger atm because harness can absorb phys damage aswell.

MaxwellC

I think it was good to get rid of that cheap meta but having my Igneous Shield lasting 6 seconds isn't quite right imo. With this change it's only fair to remove the shield breaker CP and make it into something else.

Lokey0024

You still have to chew thru healing ward with a hardend ward cover when you get em to low health, but if you have the dps to get them reeling with the defensive casting you could drop em. Im more glad for the prox det nerf then shield duration. The tree huggin with mines down waiting for prox det meta might actually be over.

Robbmrp

They should just stop bandaiding the problem, change the skills back to the way they were and eliminate shield stacking completely.

LorDrek

Is not a nerf, it is balance.

Pallio

Basically if you play a Sorc: no big deal in PVP, crippling nerf in PvE...

If you do not play a Sorc, you think it is awesome, but, really will not change PvP.

Lord_Wrath

The only thing i can see is you wont see sorcs running alone from point A to point B with a constant shield, even though i can regenerate more than it will cost in 6 seconds this just makes it annoying.

Honestly ive always been a sorc and i dislike having to rely on shields to survive, i hope to see some builds emerge that dont rely on shields but who knows, ill try some things.

DDemon

It doesn't change PVP negatively for sorc (for the most part), and can even be considered a buff. However, the biggest part of the game where this PVP change will be noticed, is PVE, which is, something that might need looking at. (Especially in solo instances like Maelstrom arena.)

Banzai406

If you suck you suck nerfing everything isn't gonna make you a better player chances are the sorc that beat you could do it on any character some ppl are just better at video games. Get your game up and stop crying about sheilds

americansteel

developers create even more imbalance.