What do you think of the nerfs to shield stacking?

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Discuss.
  • psychotic13
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    Zos sucks
    Edited by ZOS_DaryaK on April 28, 2016 4:24PM
  • Tryxus
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    They should remove the Cost Increse for Bolt Escape to compensate
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  • mb10
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    Good and the magicka detonation damage reduction too, it was getting ridiculous.

    8/10 running shields and magicka det its very boring now
  • Thybrinena
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    In the words of Spike Milligan....."About bl***y time".
  • ku5h
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    Well i actually think that now every single person in PvP will have atleast 1 shield runing. Yes, mag sorcs are majorly screwed, but in great scheme of things, there will be more shields then ever. You'll have stam NBs stacking Annulment/bone shield, that will be hilarious, or 3x stacking Dks. I think shield breaker will be working overtime next patch!
  • Magdalina
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    Shield STACKING got buffed. Now you can stack 20k+ PHYSICAL shields in PvP along with 20k+ magicka ones...

    Shields on their own got nerfed. I'm not sure where they're going with this change. Imo it'll only make what's bad, worse. Moar shield stacking, less overall usefulness and uniqueness for sorcs(especially in PvE).
    Edited by Magdalina on April 25, 2016 10:46PM
  • Rylana
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    its not a nerf.... lol. if you think those of us unkillable sorcs you were all complaining about werent already refreshing shields every six seconds.... on boy do I have a surprise for you
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  • PhatGrimReaper
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    It causes me pain, but I have to agree with @Rylana , it's a buff and a big one!
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  • Rylana
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    It causes me pain, but I have to agree with @Rylana , it's a buff and a big one!

    Feel the burn, baby, its okay to agree with me when im right <3

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  • PhatGrimReaper
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    Rylana wrote: »
    It causes me pain, but I have to agree with @Rylana , it's a buff and a big one!

    Feel the burn, baby, its okay to agree with me when im right <3

    You don't need to rub it in :'(
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  • chaserstorm16909
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    Magdalina wrote: »
    Shield STACKING got buffed. Now you can stack 20k+ PHYSICAL shields in PvP along with 20k+ magicka ones...

    Shields on their own got nerfed. I'm not sure where they're going with this change. Imo it'll only make what's bad, worse. Moar shield stacking, less overall usefulness and uniqueness for sorcs(especially in PvE).

    Now that I think about it you may be right. The increase to physical shields may make things much worse.
  • Van_0S
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    Excellent!!!
    Finally Sorc got nerfed!!!!
    Today, I am going to have a party for this occasion. :trollface:
  • PhatGrimReaper
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    Excellent!!!
    Finally Sorc got nerfed!!!!
    Today, I am going to have a party for this occasion. :trollface:

    Brah... you do realise that sorcs will now mitigate all physical & magicka damage with those 6 seconds shields right?

    Before, as a stam user you only had to chew through the Hardened Ward, now you'll have to get through the Harness too.

    Sorcs just got harder to kill!
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  • Van_0S
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    Rylana wrote: »
    its not a nerf.... lol. if you think those of us unkillable sorcs you were all complaining about werent already refreshing shields every six seconds.... on boy do I have a surprise for you

    Pfft... We will see when a NB comes from stealth and nuke that sorc down. :D:trollface:
  • Van_0S
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    Excellent!!!
    Finally Sorc got nerfed!!!!
    Today, I am going to have a party for this occasion. :trollface:

    Brah... you do realise that sorcs will now mitigate all physical & magicka damage with those 6 seconds shields right?

    Before, as a stam user you only had to chew through the Hardened Ward, now you'll have to get through the Harness too.

    Sorcs just got harder to kill!

    No!!
    All I have to do is wait for 6 sec and then strike... :D
  • Elsterchen
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    Hmm, thats what they did to templars shield ... reduced dmg, reduced time, reduced effects...

    *opens the door*

    Welcome to my house I am sure you will manage, we've been there too. :smile:

    May Akatosh guide you and reduce lag in cyro so that you always see when to refresh your shield.
  • TheHsN
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    i quit playing....that was SUCKS
    Plays:
    Magicka SORC - PvE/PvP
    Stamina NB - PvE/PvP
    Magicka NB - PvE/PvP
    Magicka Templar - PvE
    Stamina Templar - PvP
    Magicka DK - PvE
    Stamina DK - PvE
  • TheHsN
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    Excellent!!!
    Finally Sorc got nerfed!!!!
    Today, I am going to have a party for this occasion. :trollface:

    i hope u hit ur head at the party
    Plays:
    Magicka SORC - PvE/PvP
    Stamina NB - PvE/PvP
    Magicka NB - PvE/PvP
    Magicka Templar - PvE
    Stamina Templar - PvP
    Magicka DK - PvE
    Stamina DK - PvE
  • olsborg
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    All dmg shields working vs all types of dmg = elder shields online, I tought we were trying to move away from this type of meta, even with 6s duration you can easily stack shields out the whazoo cause burst happens way faster then 6s.

    Annulment and morphs should be completely reworked to something else, maybe a buff to resists or specific dmg.

    6s duration to conjured ward was harsh tho, ppl who only used that shield will feel the pain.

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  • Mojmir
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    If there was ever a need for the LOL button,it is now.
  • Drungly
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    I think we need more threads on this change. 10.000 is not enough.
  • VagabondAngel
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    olsborg wrote: »
    6s duration to conjured ward was harsh tho, ppl who only used that shield will feel the pain.
    The pain of refreshing it every 6 seconds when standing doing nothing or riding.... oh the humanity! If you weren't refreshing your ward/harness every 6 seconds or less in battle already then you were either fighting scrubs or you need to l2shield. ;)
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  • Torbschka
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    Its a nerf guys, but I really appreciate it (as a sorc).

    I know u can have 2 shields now which are great against stam and magicka dmg. However, if u cast both shields and have to weapon swap (assuming u have it on your backbar) ur first shield will only last 4.5-5 seconds, ur second 5-5.5 seconds (how fast you are and how this new animation cancelling works out).

    Then u play vs a decent player who is cc'ing u every 4 seconds (fear, fossilize whatever). Man, u have to cast it all the time and all u pro sorcs, yeah dont trash talk me, I also cast it very often, but if u go for the kill and just throw your combo out U CANT CAST IT, now it will only last 1-2 seconds, u got cc-ed, boom, done.

    Its a nerf, I guarentee u, but I really appreciate it cuz now all the FOTM mages will go :) opefully it opens more different playstyle to sorcs, maybe even a heavy armor without shields, who knows :D
  • Knightpanther
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    PvP will always bring nerfs to PvE, just a fact of life in MMOs.

    Be safe and carry on
  • Silver_Strider
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    I'll have to see how annoying Shields are with the recent change to decide whether or not to retire my shield breaker set. Although now that Stamina builds have a viable damage shield of their own, I can't help but feel that it's not going into retirement just yet.
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  • a1x23
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    Not a nerf to good players but bad shield stacking sorcs are gonna have hard time. If you do your rotations correctly curse > LA > CS > endless fury > proc'd frag > stack shields you will be just fine
  • Tyrion87
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    Rylana wrote: »
    its not a nerf.... lol. if you think those of us unkillable sorcs you were all complaining about werent already refreshing shields every six seconds.... on boy do I have a surprise for you

    So how weak your dmg shields are if they don't last more than 6 seconds? Mine last longer.
    Edited by Tyrion87 on April 26, 2016 10:47AM
  • STEVIL
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    If EVERYONE runs a physical and magical shield the meta MO CRIT gets a hit.
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  • psychotic13
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    Tyrion87 wrote: »
    Rylana wrote: »
    its not a nerf.... lol. if you think those of us unkillable sorcs you were all complaining about werent already refreshing shields every six seconds.... on boy do I have a surprise for you

    So how weak your dmg shields are if they don't last more than 6 seconds? Mine last longer.

    Doesn't mean the shields are weak, but I'm guessing you're not playing a lot of PvP or 1vX if you think you that reapplying them every 6 seconds would make them
    Weak.

    If you're fighting a lot of players, you're taking a lot of damage, and if you think your shield would last more
    Than 6 seconds then you are mistaken.

    PvE on the other hand, it's going to hurt having to swap bars so much to recast (if you have shields on the back bar) resulting in lowering your dps.
  • Brrrofski
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    It got buffed hugely in pvp.

    Read what harness now does.
    Edited by Brrrofski on April 26, 2016 11:02AM
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