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Let's Crown the Usurper...

SneaK
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Just an idea, which I think, may, help in those pop locked all one colored campaigns..

Usurper =/= Emperor (But, gains the same buffs, buffs are not alliance wide though, like Emp bonus)

Emperor Alliance, cannot crown a Usurper.

In order to crown the Usurper you'd have to cap all the outer keeps, Brindle, Drakelowe, Dragonclaw, and HOLD THEM.

Owning all 3 would crown the Usurp, which would then basically be the underdog Emp, who could help push the map for as long as your alliance could successfully hold those 3 outer keeps.

Mix it up, folks.
I'm just so tired of these one-sided campaigns and the pug base not realizing how important outer keeps are so you don't continuously get gate camped. Plus, I think it would extra awesome to have two Emp status players going at it.


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  • Skyy
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    I like this because it gives a little extra value to those outer keeps and makes people not forget they exist.
  • PhatGrimReaper
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    Well.... it'll spread people out....
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  • KenaPKK
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    In addition to emp stats, the Usurper should be permanently stealthed, have a +200% movement speed buff, and be able to jump 10x as high as usual.
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  • PhatGrimReaper
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    KenaPKK wrote: »
    In addition to emp stats, the Usurper should be permanently stealthed, have a +200% movement speed buff, and be able to jump 10x as high as usual.

    Range of Proxy x10.... reduce cost of Ultimates by 99%
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  • caeliusstarbreaker
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    Of all the guano crazy ideas out there..... I don't hate this one the most.
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  • brobiwan
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    But a hero doesn't use a power like the Voice to murder his king and usurp his throne
  • ToRelax
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    I actually like this idea.
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  • SneaK
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    Skyy wrote: »
    I like this because it gives a little extra value to those outer keeps and makes people not forget they exist.

    Right! Also, indirectly, I think if there were more incentive to holding the outers we'd see less gate camping.
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    Sneak for prez! I like this :D
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  • SneaK
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    frozywozy wrote: »
    Sneak for prez! I like this :D

    So you could usurp my throne? I'm on to you!!
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  • Dreyloch
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    Not sure about the Usurp thing, but having those outer keeps mean something more, could help with lag and spread folks out. Not a terrible idea =)

    Ooo, just thought of something. if the sitting Emp's faction does not hold those keeps, he/she loses access to the emp buff passives until those keeps are owned again. Meanwhile, inner 6 are still up for grabs to dethrone. So you could be emp still, just not have the buffs to go with it unless you have the aforementioned 3 outer jkeeps.
    Edited by Dreyloch on April 15, 2016 3:48PM
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  • KenaPKK
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    Could have those keeps offer increased campaign points and an AP multiplier for all factions, and even more for the opposite side faction.
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    This would be pretty interesting
  • ToRelax
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    Dreyloch wrote: »
    Not sure about the Usurp thing, but having those outer keeps mean something more, could help with lag and spread folks out. Not a terrible idea =)

    Ooo, just thought of something. if the sitting Emp's faction does not hold those keeps, he/she loses access to the emp buff passives until those keeps are owned again. Meanwhile, inner 6 are still up for grabs to dethrone. So you could be emp still, just not have the buffs to go with it unless you have the aforementioned 3 outer jkeeps.

    Don't think this is a good idea, since emp is so strong in order to defend the inner keeps in the first place. Just taking away outer keeps would be too easy, and you don't want to have to take them all as emp after being crowned just so you can start defending the ones you just took.
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  • Brutusmax1mus
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    Got emperor last night, it was amazing to say the least. Dropped today so some friends can get it this month... I hate being kind.

    Anyway, this idea is awesome. We should brainstorm some passive buff ideas(real ones y'all).
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    Outlier- increase movement speed for you and your party by 5 to 10 percent and 25% when mounted. Stacks with major speed.

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  • SneaK
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    ToRelax wrote: »
    Dreyloch wrote: »
    Not sure about the Usurp thing, but having those outer keeps mean something more, could help with lag and spread folks out. Not a terrible idea =)

    Ooo, just thought of something. if the sitting Emp's faction does not hold those keeps, he/she loses access to the emp buff passives until those keeps are owned again. Meanwhile, inner 6 are still up for grabs to dethrone. So you could be emp still, just not have the buffs to go with it unless you have the aforementioned 3 outer jkeeps.

    Don't think this is a good idea, since emp is so strong in order to defend the inner keeps in the first place. Just taking away outer keeps would be too easy, and you don't want to have to take them all as emp after being crowned just so you can start defending the ones you just took.

    Yea I really don't either, would add even more reason for factions to completely own the map, which is the exact opposite of good PvP.
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  • Dreyloch
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    SneaK wrote: »
    ToRelax wrote: »
    Dreyloch wrote: »
    Not sure about the Usurp thing, but having those outer keeps mean something more, could help with lag and spread folks out. Not a terrible idea =)

    Ooo, just thought of something. if the sitting Emp's faction does not hold those keeps, he/she loses access to the emp buff passives until those keeps are owned again. Meanwhile, inner 6 are still up for grabs to dethrone. So you could be emp still, just not have the buffs to go with it unless you have the aforementioned 3 outer jkeeps.

    Don't think this is a good idea, since emp is so strong in order to defend the inner keeps in the first place. Just taking away outer keeps would be too easy, and you don't want to have to take them all as emp after being crowned just so you can start defending the ones you just took.

    Yea I really don't either, would add even more reason for factions to completely own the map, which is the exact opposite of good PvP.

    Maybe ya all aren't understanding. Someone takes the 6 inner keeps. They become Emp.but in order to use the passives, their faction has to own those 3 outer keeps. Drakelowe, Brindle, and Dragonclaw. So now the emp has to make a choice. Defend the inner keeps to maintain Emp in title only, or convince his faction to take those 3 outer keeps so he/she can use the passives to be more powerful. . Basically, Emp can't be in 2 places at once, forces are spread out and they have to make a decision. Get the buffs, or just keep the inners for title only. (no buffs)
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    Dreyloch wrote: »
    SneaK wrote: »
    ToRelax wrote: »
    Dreyloch wrote: »
    Not sure about the Usurp thing, but having those outer keeps mean something more, could help with lag and spread folks out. Not a terrible idea =)

    Ooo, just thought of something. if the sitting Emp's faction does not hold those keeps, he/she loses access to the emp buff passives until those keeps are owned again. Meanwhile, inner 6 are still up for grabs to dethrone. So you could be emp still, just not have the buffs to go with it unless you have the aforementioned 3 outer jkeeps.

    Don't think this is a good idea, since emp is so strong in order to defend the inner keeps in the first place. Just taking away outer keeps would be too easy, and you don't want to have to take them all as emp after being crowned just so you can start defending the ones you just took.

    Yea I really don't either, would add even more reason for factions to completely own the map, which is the exact opposite of good PvP.

    Maybe ya all aren't understanding. Someone takes the 6 inner keeps. They become Emp.but in order to use the passives, their faction has to own those 3 outer keeps. Drakelowe, Brindle, and Dragonclaw. So now the emp has to make a choice. Defend the inner keeps to maintain Emp in title only, or convince his faction to take those 3 outer keeps so he/she can use the passives to be more powerful. . Basically, Emp can't be in 2 places at once, forces are spread out and they have to make a decision. Get the buffs, or just keep the inners for title only. (no buffs)

    So those who just want to farm emp can go on as usual, but if you actually want to use it to defend the newly captured keeps against two factions, you will now have to capture and hold a couple more keeps. Yeah I understand, and I don't like it.
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  • Dreyloch
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    ToRelax wrote: »
    .
    Dreyloch wrote: »
    SneaK wrote: »
    ToRelax wrote: »
    Dreyloch wrote: »
    Not sure about the Usurp thing, but having those outer keeps mean something more, could help with lag and spread folks out. Not a terrible idea =)

    Ooo, just thought of something. if the sitting Emp's faction does not hold those keeps, he/she loses access to the emp buff passives until those keeps are owned again. Meanwhile, inner 6 are still up for grabs to dethrone. So you could be emp still, just not have the buffs to go with it unless you have the aforementioned 3 outer jkeeps.

    Don't think this is a good idea, since emp is so strong in order to defend the inner keeps in the first place. Just taking away outer keeps would be too easy, and you don't want to have to take them all as emp after being crowned just so you can start defending the ones you just took.

    Yea I really don't either, would add even more reason for factions to completely own the map, which is the exact opposite of good PvP.

    Maybe ya all aren't understanding. Someone takes the 6 inner keeps. They become Emp.but in order to use the passives, their faction has to own those 3 outer keeps. Drakelowe, Brindle, and Dragonclaw. So now the emp has to make a choice. Defend the inner keeps to maintain Emp in title only, or convince his faction to take those 3 outer keeps so he/she can use the passives to be more powerful. . Basically, Emp can't be in 2 places at once, forces are spread out and they have to make a decision. Get the buffs, or just keep the inners for title only. (no buffs)

    So those who just want to farm emp can go on as usual, but if you actually want to use it to defend the newly captured keeps against two factions, you will now have to capture and hold a couple more keeps. Yeah I understand, and I don't like it.

    It's meant as an idea to spread people out as well. Besides, if your Emp, you should be able to ask your faction to do what you need. Just like any RL emp trying to protect a country. (In this case Cyrodiil). But that's ok, ZoS won't do anything about anyway =)
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