Any advice for my Stam NB?

Fallen_Ray

Im building a stamina nightblade and would like any advice regarding the skills. Im heading for the classic assassin using dual weild and a bow. I understand using 2h would be most ideal cause of rally & wrecking blow for example but im trying to stay on the rogue path.


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Sunburnt_Penguin

Unfortunately I can't see the bow line due to being on iPhone. Can you list them?

Jaronking

Are you mainly trying to do PVP or PVe?

Fallen_Ray

@Sunburnt_Penguin:

Bowline has:

Piercing Mark
Resolving Vigor
Power Extraction
Razor Caltrops
Lethal Arrow
Ultimate: Soul Tether

@Jaronking:

I'd be doing both, swapping with the necessary pvp skills when i pvp and doing the same when I pve

DannyLV702

Without the mega heal from rally, you're going to be really easy to kill unless you're a really good player.

Anti_Virus

Don't use a bow it sucks, go dw/2h for rally heals plus major brutality

in fact I would say don't go stam for pvp purposes since mag>stam is the meta currently.

but for pve dw/2h

Sunburnt_Penguin

Personally I'd think about switching Vigor and Cloak around in PvP/solo PvE purely because you don't have Rally and Vigor only lasts 5 seconds so in CQ combat it'll save hassle.

Piercing Mark is good but you could always add in Relentless Focus if stamina management is an issue as with relying on Vigor for constant self-heals, it's quite a stamina-intensive build.

Resipsa131

Suggested changes
1. Swap Flawless to give your bow a bit more damage and use Soul Harvest on your DW bar
2. Killers blade provides some healing and deals a ton of damage it should be on you DW bar move Ambush to bow or replace Quick Cloak with it.
3. Drop Power Extraction and run Brutality Pots if you insist on DW/Bow with this off your bar you can slot Merciless resolve.
4. If you are in PvP try and slot Fear on your Bow Bar

Jaronking

Fallen_Ray wrote: »

@Sunburnt_Penguin:

Bowline has:

Piercing Mark
Resolving Vigor
Power Extraction
Razor Caltrops
Lethal Arrow
Ultimate: Soul Tether

@Jaronking:

I'd be doing both, swapping with the necessary pvp skills when i pvp and doing the same when I pve

If your doing PVP then DW/Bow won't work you pretty much have to run 2Hand as either a main weapon or back up.Rally is to strong in PvP and a most have.Its better then power extraction sense it needs a target and deal magical damage.

Fallen_Ray

Resipsa131 wrote: »

Suggested changes
1. Swap Flawless to give your bow a bit more damage and use Soul Harvest on your DW bar
2. Killers blade provides some healing and deals a ton of damage it should be on you DW bar move Ambush to bow or replace Quick Cloak with it.
3. Drop Power Extraction and run Brutality Pots if you insist on DW/Bow with this off your bar you can slot Merciless resolve.
4. If you are in PvP try and slot Fear on your Bow Bar

I will try these definitely. Very interesting suggestions

Fallen_Ray

Jaronking wrote: »

Fallen_Ray wrote: »

@Sunburnt_Penguin:

Bowline has:

Piercing Mark
Resolving Vigor
Power Extraction
Razor Caltrops
Lethal Arrow
Ultimate: Soul Tether

@Jaronking:

I'd be doing both, swapping with the necessary pvp skills when i pvp and doing the same when I pve

If your doing PVP then DW/Bow won't work you pretty much have to run 2Hand as either a main weapon or back up.Rally is to strong in PvP and a most have.Its better then power extraction sense it needs a target and deal magical damage.

I see, guess I'll be using 2H for pvp then if I get squashed with DW/Bow. I was planning on power extraction for the 20% weapon damage and since it scales on stamina...

Jaronking

Fallen_Ray wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

Fallen_Ray wrote: »

@Sunburnt_Penguin:

Bowline has:

Piercing Mark
Resolving Vigor
Power Extraction
Razor Caltrops
Lethal Arrow
Ultimate: Soul Tether

@Jaronking:

I'd be doing both, swapping with the necessary pvp skills when i pvp and doing the same when I pve

If your doing PVP then DW/Bow won't work you pretty much have to run 2Hand as either a main weapon or back up.Rally is to strong in PvP and a most have.Its better then power extraction sense it needs a target and deal magical damage.

I see, guess I'll be using 2H for pvp then if I get squashed with DW/Bow. I was planning on power extraction for the 20% weapon damage and since it scales on stamina...

Yes it uses Stamina but read the tooltip it deals magical damage so it be basically useless to your stamina build in PVP maybe DB they will allow it to deal Physical or poison damage so it he more useful in PVP and PVP.If you want you can run Majority Brutality potions in PVP but it can get expensive this way you can run the setup you want .

Fallen_Ray

Jaronking wrote: »

Fallen_Ray wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

Fallen_Ray wrote: »

@Sunburnt_Penguin:

Bowline has:

Piercing Mark
Resolving Vigor
Power Extraction
Razor Caltrops
Lethal Arrow
Ultimate: Soul Tether

@Jaronking:

I'd be doing both, swapping with the necessary pvp skills when i pvp and doing the same when I pve

If your doing PVP then DW/Bow won't work you pretty much have to run 2Hand as either a main weapon or back up.Rally is to strong in PvP and a most have.Its better then power extraction sense it needs a target and deal magical damage.

I see, guess I'll be using 2H for pvp then if I get squashed with DW/Bow. I was planning on power extraction for the 20% weapon damage and since it scales on stamina...

Yes it uses Stamina but read the tooltip it deals magical damage so it be basically useless to your stamina build in PVP maybe DB they will allow it to deal Physical or poison damage so it he more useful in PVP and PVP.If you want you can run Majority Brutality potions in PVP but it can get expensive this way you can run the setup you want .

ah right didn't pay attention to the info on the tool tip... makes sense the skill won't help me get an effective dps. very helpful hints thanks alot!

sluice

For pvp, if you really want to do DW, I would suggest to drop the bow and put TH on your second bar.

I used to run a really efficient setup like this where my main damage came from my DW bar and my TH bar was more for executing and buffing.

I dropped that setup all together to go the typical TH/Bow and only use poison injection as a bow skill there. The rest of the skills are buff and utility skills.

Brutusmax1mus

For pvp i use 2h as my buff bar and dw/bow for damage. Rally, vigor, evasion, relentless focus and what ever you want. I run dw mainly but i use the dagger cloak on that bar for speed increase and 20%aoe dmg reduction... Its nice. Fear is a must. Haven't used cloak ever.