Zenimax Comments are Just Warnings Now

Conquistador

Has anyone noticed that whenever a Zenimax employee responds, it's just a moderator telling you to be wary of offering trollbait or scolding the entire forum about not being mean?

Burning_Talons

Yea

Asmael

You mean, exactly like how they're about to comment on this thread?

Uriel_Nocturne

Nope.

I see my fair share of Moderator warnings as I cruise the Forums, but I also see an equal/greater number of Zeni posts that are adding to the discussion or are asking for clarification on an issue that a Forum-goer has brought up.

However; some people are toxic. They make toxic posts or actively try to derail threads in very negative ways. Those posts are edited/removed by the Moderation team, and I applaud them for doing that job. It has to be pretty thankless, but they do a good job at it anyway.

But no, I see just as many comments adding to discussion as I do Moderation posts.

Jaronking

Yea last time I seen them actually acknowledge a post is from Gino talking about changing the way Templar or other gap closers function.

NewBlacksmurf

I have to disagree

There has been A LOT of dialogue specific to the anniversary event with comments from both Gina and Jessica from 3.30.16 - 4.4.16

There are other discussions to....just click dev tracker

Zouni

Zeni has to color code this moderator comment or distinguish it somehow. Many a time I will open a comment thinking it is a new announcement or something only to read Zeni is slapping wrists.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Use the dev tracker. It only tracks developer comments.

svartorn

Yep.

ZOS can't muster a care for their customer base.

Uriel_Nocturne

svartorn wrote: »

Yep.

ZOS can't muster a care for their customer base.

Read more carefully.

Zeni makes far more posts driving discussion forward than they make moderation posts.

Conquistador

Asmael wrote: »

You mean, exactly like how they're about to comment on this thread?

Haha, I suppose so. Yeah.

STEVIL

Not my experience.

I have seen more positive posts from Z than negative.

Callous2208

Jaronking wrote: »

Yea last time I seen them actually acknowledge a post is from Gino talking about changing the way Templar or other gap closers function.

Then you haven't been on since the day that was posted. As many said earlier, Dev Tracker.

Waffennacht

I only see:

"They thanks guys glad you like that silly stuff!"
"What is your problem? Log in log out"

But NOTHING about the decision making, nothing about non-purchased in game bugs, nothing about the graphic changes, etc

Callous2208

Waffennacht wrote: »

I only see:

"They thanks guys glad you like that silly stuff!"
"What is your problem? Log in log out"

But NOTHING about the decision making, nothing about non-purchased in game bugs, nothing about the graphic changes, etc

They posted in the discussion about the armors not fitting female toons correctly about 30 seconds ago. Was a hot topic all day.

Cryptical

Zouni wrote: »

Zeni has to color code this moderator comment or distinguish it somehow. Many a time I will open a comment thinking it is a new announcement or something only to read Zeni is slapping wrists.

It is distinguished.
In the thread list, some threads have a Z to the left, showing a dev has commented in that discussion.
In the thread itself, the dev comment is in green text.

Genomic

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Nope.

I see my fair share of Moderator warnings as I cruise the Forums, but I also see an equal/greater number of Zeni posts that are adding to the discussion or are asking for clarification on an issue that a Forum-goer has brought up.

However; some people are toxic. They make toxic posts or actively try to derail threads in very negative ways. Those posts are edited/removed by the Moderation team, and I applaud them for doing that job. It has to be pretty thankless, but they do a good job at it anyway.

But no, I see just as many comments adding to discussion as I do Moderation posts.

Can I say how ridiculously overused and trite the term 'toxic' is? Vapid, vacuous Valley Girl vernacular. Next person to use it will be beaten about the head with a thesaurus.

tinythinker

Conquistador wrote: »

Has anyone noticed that whenever a Zenimax employee responds, it's just a moderator telling you to be wary of offering trollbait or scolding the entire forum about not being mean?

Anti_Virus

I've seen some threads with good constructive criticism but with no dev posts .....

Uriel_Nocturne

Genomic wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Nope.

I see my fair share of Moderator warnings as I cruise the Forums, but I also see an equal/greater number of Zeni posts that are adding to the discussion or are asking for clarification on an issue that a Forum-goer has brought up.

However; some people are toxic. They make toxic posts or actively try to derail threads in very negative ways. Those posts are edited/removed by the Moderation team, and I applaud them for doing that job. It has to be pretty thankless, but they do a good job at it anyway.

But no, I see just as many comments adding to discussion as I do Moderation posts.

Can I say how ridiculously overused and trite the term 'toxic' is? Vapid, vacuous Valley Girl vernacular. Next person to use it will be beaten about the head with a thesaurus.

I use the word twice, and I get this response?

Nice.

Keep your vitriol to yourself. It will make the Forums a better place.

Mcwoods55

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Nope.

I see my fair share of Moderator warnings as I cruise the Forums, but I also see an equal/greater number of Zeni posts that are adding to the discussion or are asking for clarification on an issue that a Forum-goer has brought up.

However; some people are toxic. They make toxic posts or actively try to derail threads in very negative ways. Those posts are edited/removed by the Moderation team, and I applaud them for doing that job. It has to be pretty thankless, but they do a good job at it anyway.

But no, I see just as many comments adding to discussion as I do Moderation posts.

And to add to it chances are the thread being removed was reported by a user.... Food for thought.

khele23eb17_ESO

Conquistador wrote: »

Has anyone noticed that whenever a Zenimax employee responds, it's just a moderator telling you to be wary of offering trollbait or scolding the entire forum about not being mean?

Because moderators moderate the forums as is their job. IMO there should be a separate icon for CM posts and dev posts.

DjSolJAH

ZOS here is your opportunity to make a witty comment or say something to the contrary.. Just sayin

Genomic

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Genomic wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Nope.

I see my fair share of Moderator warnings as I cruise the Forums, but I also see an equal/greater number of Zeni posts that are adding to the discussion or are asking for clarification on an issue that a Forum-goer has brought up.

However; some people are toxic. They make toxic posts or actively try to derail threads in very negative ways. Those posts are edited/removed by the Moderation team, and I applaud them for doing that job. It has to be pretty thankless, but they do a good job at it anyway.

But no, I see just as many comments adding to discussion as I do Moderation posts.

Can I say how ridiculously overused and trite the term 'toxic' is? Vapid, vacuous Valley Girl vernacular. Next person to use it will be beaten about the head with a thesaurus.

I use the word twice, and I get this response?

Nice.

Keep your vitriol to yourself. It will make the Forums a better place.

If only people could manage your level of witty repartee...

hrothbern

khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »

Conquistador wrote: »

Has anyone noticed that whenever a Zenimax employee responds, it's just a moderator telling you to be wary of offering trollbait or scolding the entire forum about not being mean?

Because moderators moderate the forums as is their job. IMO there should be a separate icon for CM posts and dev posts.

agree

And threads & posts with devs are usually more interesting to read then corrected threads/posts of mods.

Waffennacht

Genomic wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Nope.

I see my fair share of Moderator warnings as I cruise the Forums, but I also see an equal/greater number of Zeni posts that are adding to the discussion or are asking for clarification on an issue that a Forum-goer has brought up.

However; some people are toxic. They make toxic posts or actively try to derail threads in very negative ways. Those posts are edited/removed by the Moderation team, and I applaud them for doing that job. It has to be pretty thankless, but they do a good job at it anyway.

But no, I see just as many comments adding to discussion as I do Moderation posts.

Can I say how ridiculously overused and trite the term 'toxic' is? Vapid, vacuous Valley Girl vernacular. Next person to use it will be beaten about the head with a thesaurus.

For me, it's the phrase, "been a minute" when used like, "I haven't seen him in a minute"

Thesaurus beating time

Inarre

There is about the same amount of meaningful zos input (as compared to moderator scolding) as there is players providing meaningful input (as compared to general qq or trolling)

I think its about fair.

Callous2208

Inarre wrote: »

There is about the same amount of meaningful zos input (as compared to moderator scolding) as there is players providing meaningful input (as compared to general qq or trolling)

I think its about fair.

Bingo.

Elsir

I'm surprised nobody has noted the fact that the kind of input people are seeking comes from those whose job is not viewing the forums, whereas the moderators' jobs are specifically for being here and moderating. When it's your job to be here moderating, you should expect to see things being moderated to an extent that you might think there's more moderation than actual developer response. They all are ZOS employees and share the tag, colour on the forum, etc. but moderators are the employees who are supposed to be here more than any other staff.

{EDIT} On a side note: Perhaps we'd see less moderation if the community would stop breaking the rules so regularly. Specifically stop getting into dull witted flame wars with each other to see who has the biggest ego.