The ESO Drama

GRxKnight

I find it funny that people are getting all bent out of shape over one's AP gains...too funny...


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vortexman11

Dude the thread just got closed...let it rest

GRxKnight

Yeah i was a bit late on posting that...no one else reply please...this was made well after the thread was closed without knowing it was closed

KenaPKK

GRxKnight wrote: »

Yeah i was a bit late on posting that...no one else reply please...this was made well after the thread was closed without knowing it was closed

Sypher

GRxKnight wrote: »

I find it funny that people are getting all bent out of shape over one's AP gains...too funny...the salt is real on one side...them and their fanboys

Just one side huh. Is that why you made a new thread about this after the old one was locked?

frozywozy

@ZOS_AntonioP could you close this thread aswell?

KisoValley

Sound salty bro get over it. Think it's quite clear he doesn't have the evidence of his ap gains like he claims he has lol. If that is the case, can only assume he cheated seeing as he did claim he had evidence and agreed to show it. His stream of paragon was shocking. 3/4 of the screen black? Probably started streaming to try trick people into thinking he actually streamed his ap run. Either that or hes terrible at setting up a stream.

Zheg

vortexman11 wrote: »

Dude the thread just got closed...let it rest

I'm lagging to hell trying to dethrone, to the extent that I have <=6 black bodies on my screen (blue or red) and can't see any anything else, including attacks. Forum pvp is all I have left to enjoy on ESO.

DannyLV702

I missed the locked thread

Crown

What disappoints me the most about this whole evening is that I expected better from Sypher and Fengrush. I believed that we would have a reasonable and respectful conversation that would result in my being able to help more people learn to PvP better. I knew that the stream comments and the fanbois would be as disrespectful as last time, but I really did expect better of you.

I hope the 1300 viewers in your stream was worth it and made you some money - because most of the community other than your fanbois now has a completely different opinion of you.

After we talked on your stream, I understood that you would happily watch some video - perhaps with me in stream again and you would eat your words in a day or two. I don't know if it was the desire to sensationalize things and get your fans even more riled up thinking how awesome you are, the jealousy that there is indeed someone who figured out and refined the skill to farm AP better than you can who wasn't one of your 1vPotato friends, or simply a lack of maturity that you'll grow into (or not) in another decade or two.

I said two weeks ago that I was pretty much done with the game, and was setting things up so that my legacy of helping people to learn PvP would live on with a few more videos on the Resilient forums. The morning in question I played with the express purpose of streaming for a few people in Resilient to show them how to farm AP and get some good clips in Shadow Play. I've just finished writing up details on AP farming along with about 10 hours of video that any Resilient, Victorem, or M12 will be able to access soon, and will come online a few times to show them how to do it. I hope that one of them steps up to out farm you and ensure that you won't make another emp video. I don't believe that you deserve it. Either way, as I said earlier, it doesn't affect my life one way or the other. My wife is enjoying BDO, and I'm playing Paragon until CU is released.

I've removed my YouTube channel after some of the comments and responses got too extreme talking about things that if your parents heard you say you'd have a mouth full of soap or a black and blue back side from the belt - though today with the way you kids are being raised, I don't believe that most of you could even conceive of being punished. Everything - including all my Shadow Plays are in another account that requires access direct from the Resilient forums.

You made a choice, and that choice will have consequences. If people no longer respect you and no longer want to help you, you're going to have that much more challenging a time to achieve your goals.

Cadbury

Oh hi there.....

What did I miss?

GRxKnight

Crown wrote: »

What disappoints me the most about this whole evening is that I expected better from Sypher and Fengrush. I believed that we would have a reasonable and respectful conversation that would result in my being able to help more people learn to PvP better. I knew that the stream comments and the fanbois would be as disrespectful as last time, but I really did expect better of you.

I hope the 1300 viewers in your stream was worth it and made you some money - because most of the community other than your fanbois now has a completely different opinion of you.

After we talked on your stream, I understood that you would happily watch some video - perhaps with me in stream again and you would eat your words in a day or two. I don't know if it was the desire to sensationalize things and get your fans even more riled up thinking how awesome you are, the jealousy that there is indeed someone who figured out and refined the skill to farm AP better than you can who wasn't one of your 1vPotato friends, or simply a lack of maturity that you'll grow into (or not) in another decade or two.

I said two weeks ago that I was pretty much done with the game, and was setting things up so that my legacy of helping people to learn PvP would live on with a few more videos on the Resilient forums. The morning in question I played with the express purpose of streaming for a few people in Resilient to show them how to farm AP and get some good clips in Shadow Play. I've just finished writing up details on AP farming along with about 10 hours of video that any Resilient, Victorem, or M12 will be able to access soon, and will come online a few times to show them how to do it. I hope that one of them steps up to out farm you and ensure that you won't make another emp video. I don't believe that you deserve it. Either way, as I said earlier, it doesn't affect my life one way or the other. My wife is enjoying BDO, and I'm playing Paragon until CU is released.

I've removed my YouTube channel after some of the comments and responses got too extreme talking about things that if your parents heard you say you'd have a mouth full of soap or a black and blue back side from the belt - though today with the way you kids are being raised, I don't believe that most of you could even conceive of being punished. Everything - including all my Shadow Plays are in another account that requires access direct from the Resilient forums.

You made a choice, and that choice will have consequences. If people no longer respect you and no longer want to help you, you're going to have that much more challenging a time to achieve your goals.

Ouch...so I'm guessing no more drunken Friday/Saturday raid nights?

Sypher

Crown wrote: »

What disappoints me the most about this whole evening is that I expected better from Sypher and Fengrush. I believed that we would have a reasonable and respectful conversation that would result in my being able to help more people learn to PvP better. I knew that the stream comments and the fanbois would be as disrespectful as last time, but I really did expect better of you.

I hope the 1300 viewers in your stream was worth it and made you some money - because most of the community other than your fanbois now has a completely different opinion of you.

After we talked on your stream, I understood that you would happily watch some video - perhaps with me in stream again and you would eat your words in a day or two. I don't know if it was the desire to sensationalize things and get your fans even more riled up thinking how awesome you are, the jealousy that there is indeed someone who figured out and refined the skill to farm AP better than you can who wasn't one of your 1vPotato friends, or simply a lack of maturity that you'll grow into (or not) in another decade or two.

I said two weeks ago that I was pretty much done with the game, and was setting things up so that my legacy of helping people to learn PvP would live on with a few more videos on the Resilient forums. The morning in question I played with the express purpose of streaming for a few people in Resilient to show them how to farm AP and get some good clips in Shadow Play. I've just finished writing up details on AP farming along with about 10 hours of video that any Resilient, Victorem, or M12 will be able to access soon, and will come online a few times to show them how to do it. I hope that one of them steps up to out farm you and ensure that you won't make another emp video. I don't believe that you deserve it. Either way, as I said earlier, it doesn't affect my life one way or the other. My wife is enjoying BDO, and I'm playing Paragon until CU is released.

I've removed my YouTube channel after some of the comments and responses got too extreme talking about things that if your parents heard you say you'd have a mouth full of soap or a black and blue back side from the belt - though today with the way you kids are being raised, I don't believe that most of you could even conceive of being punished. Everything - including all my Shadow Plays are in another account that requires access direct from the Resilient forums.

You made a choice, and that choice will have consequences. If people no longer respect you and no longer want to help you, you're going to have that much more challenging a time to achieve your goals.

See the problem here is you're making this ordeal about my goals and my personal AP gains. I do NOT care about my personal AP gains, I've attempted to farm AP only a handful of times during my ESO play through.

I just want to keep the integrity in place. I feel like your story had red flags, I kept it private until one of your "friends" called me out on the forums. At that point I had to present my side of the story and explain my reasoning behind my suspicion (Not once did I flat out say that you were cheating).

Also you keep talking about money and careers as if that has anything to do with this. I don't bite at your petty jabs Nait. I'm immune to that, you should know better.

Can't wait to eat my own words, I bet they will be covered in salt and delicious.

Ichnaea

Cadbury wrote: »

Oh hi there.....

What did I miss?

One guy said one thing. There's some salt or something. I dunno. I have switched from popcorn to ramen though.

Publius_Scipio

And so it was written into the ancient texts (to be found in ES 6) that dissension, elf on elf crime, AP greed and competition, and cannibalism within the upper ranks of the Aldmeri Dominion essentially ended the War of the Three Alliances.

The war is now between the COVENANT and the Pact. COVENANT leadership is awaiting the official papers of surrender signed by Queen Aryenn and hand delivered by the AD generals by noon tomorrow.

The surrender agreement states that all AD combat forces in Cyrodiil are to lay down their arms immediately and cease any forward movement against COVENANT and Pact forces. AD forces are to gather their supplies and immediately return to their southern gates. From there, by month's end, all AD combat forces are to sail back to Auridon. All COVENANT and Pact forces have orders not to attack any nonaggressive AD troops. The COVENANT intends to keep every word of the signed agreement.

Parade and celebrations in the streets of Wayrest to commence.

@Telel you old dusty furred warrior khajiit. The war is over for you. Go back home to your litter box and your 19 kittens. (We all know Khajiits have no concept of responsible birth control).

Ichnaea

I find it absolutely hilarious that this is the best PVP I've ever witnessed. And there is no lag to be seen! And I'm watching dolphin p*rn, and cat videos at the same time!

GRxKnight

@Sypher my only problem with this whole thing is that this is based off of 2 screen shots that were taken 4 hours apart...4 hours is easily enough time for someone to AP farm up the leaderboards to where Nait did. I also don't see why you're bringing this up now when he's been able to AP farm like this for the last 3 or 4 campaigns now.

Now @ZOS_MollyH can we close this thread as my original purpose of posting this was with the other one active...but it got delayed due to other reasons and I didn't know that thread had closed at the time

PhatGrimReaper

InB4 lock..........


again!

Sypher

GRxKnight wrote: »

@Sypher my only problem with this whole thing is that this is based off of 2 screen shots that were taken 4 hours apart...4 hours is easily enough time for someone to AP farm up the leaderboards to where Nait did. I also don't see why you're bringing this up now when he's been able to AP farm like this for the last 3 or 4 campaigns now.

It was based on a lot more than just 2 screenshots. Also, the first screen shot was actually the wrong picture, it still only took ~2.5 hours for the AP to be gained. Which still makes it within reach but still a stretch, it was the circumstances behind this and the small lies here and there that makes it what it is.

When asked about his ~56K AP in 15 minutes, Crown responded with "That's not even that much, I can do a lot better than that" Him trying to belittle a 225K AP/Hour rate just shows he's trying to make it seem like it's not a big deal and can be achieved consistently.

I guess there's not much we can do until he provides the video he promised. There's no convincing you or anyone of his other guild mates. I don't blame you.

Cadbury

Ichnaea wrote: »

Cadbury wrote: »

Oh hi there.....

What did I miss?

One guy said one thing. There's some salt or something. I dunno. I have switched from popcorn to ramen though.

Interesting. Looks like part 2 of an ongoing series of drama. Ah well. Time for a good chuckle before thread lock

I went for potato chips instead of popcorn this time

GRxKnight

Sypher wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

@Sypher my only problem with this whole thing is that this is based off of 2 screen shots that were taken 4 hours apart...4 hours is easily enough time for someone to AP farm up the leaderboards to where Nait did. I also don't see why you're bringing this up now when he's been able to AP farm like this for the last 3 or 4 campaigns now.

It was based on a lot more than just 2 screenshots. Also, the first screen shot was actually the wrong picture, it still only took ~2.5 hours for the AP to be gained. Which still makes it within reach but still a stretch, it was the circumstances behind this and the small lies here and there that makes it what it is.

When asked about his ~56K AP in 15 minutes, Crown responded with "That's not even that much, I can do a lot better than that" Him trying to belittle a 225K AP/Hour rate just shows he's trying to make it seem like it's not a big deal and can be achieved consistently.

I guess there's not much we can do until he provides the video he promised. There's no convincing you or anyone of his other guild mates. I don't blame you.

Regardless of the validity of the videos he provides I know your fanbois will try and construe everything to make it seem like he's cheating or exploiting, so what's the point in even posting it? And why are we making such a big deal of it when he said he has no intentions to play ESO except on maybe a casual level now. He sure as hell won't be making 200k AP an hour that's for sure.

Edited cause grammar is hard

Sypher

GRxKnight wrote: »

Sypher wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

@Sypher my only problem with this whole thing is that this is based off of 2 screen shots that were taken 4 hours apart...4 hours is easily enough time for someone to AP farm up the leaderboards to where Nait did. I also don't see why you're bringing this up now when he's been able to AP farm like this for the last 3 or 4 campaigns now.

It was based on a lot more than just 2 screenshots. Also, the first screen shot was actually the wrong picture, it still only took ~2.5 hours for the AP to be gained. Which still makes it within reach but still a stretch, it was the circumstances behind this and the small lies here and there that makes it what it is.

When asked about his ~56K AP in 15 minutes, Crown responded with "That's not even that much, I can do a lot better than that" Him trying to belittle a 225K AP/Hour rate just shows he's trying to make it seem like it's not a big deal and can be achieved consistently.

I guess there's not much we can do until he provides the video he promised. There's no convincing you or anyone of his other guild mates. I don't blame you.

Regardless of the validity of the videos he provides I know your fanbois will try and construe everything to make it seem like he's cheating or exploiting, so what's the point in even posting it? And why are we making such a big deal of it when he said he has no intentions to play ESO except on maybe a casual level now. He sure as hell won't be making 200k AP an hour that's for sure.

Edited cause grammar is hard

Like I said I wouldn't have said anything if his friend who overheard a private conversation didn't make it public. [snip]

[edited for name/shame img]

GRxKnight

But why are we now making such a big deal over it...if you didnt care or said you didnt care why all of a sudden start caring?

And do you blame whoever it was that called you out for thinking that something was up...it's not like you or your followers enjoy crown or like him (especially your followers). I think that was made perfectly clear after he appeared on your podcast a couple months back...

Sypher

GRxKnight wrote: »

But why are we now making such a big deal over it...if you didnt care or said you didnt care why all of a sudden start caring?

And do you blame whoever it was that called you out for thinking that something was up...it's not like you or your followers enjoy crown or like him (especially your followers). I think that was made perfectly clear after he appeared on your podcast a couple months back...

The person who called me out spilled the beans, I didn't want to deny what he said so I confirmed what he said and provided my reasoning behind my actions.

GRxKnight

Sypher wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

But why are we now making such a big deal over it...if you didnt care or said you didnt care why all of a sudden start caring?

And do you blame whoever it was that called you out for thinking that something was up...it's not like you or your followers enjoy crown or like him (especially your followers). I think that was made perfectly clear after he appeared on your podcast a couple months back...

The person who called me out spilled the beans, I didn't want to deny what he said so I confirmed what he said and provided my reasoning behind my actions.

And thus everyone took it to mean that you thought he was cheating?

Ichnaea

Sypher wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

Sypher wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

@Sypher my only problem with this whole thing is that this is based off of 2 screen shots that were taken 4 hours apart...4 hours is easily enough time for someone to AP farm up the leaderboards to where Nait did. I also don't see why you're bringing this up now when he's been able to AP farm like this for the last 3 or 4 campaigns now.

It was based on a lot more than just 2 screenshots. Also, the first screen shot was actually the wrong picture, it still only took ~2.5 hours for the AP to be gained. Which still makes it within reach but still a stretch, it was the circumstances behind this and the small lies here and there that makes it what it is.

When asked about his ~56K AP in 15 minutes, Crown responded with "That's not even that much, I can do a lot better than that" Him trying to belittle a 225K AP/Hour rate just shows he's trying to make it seem like it's not a big deal and can be achieved consistently.

I guess there's not much we can do until he provides the video he promised. There's no convincing you or anyone of his other guild mates. I don't blame you.

Regardless of the validity of the videos he provides I know your fanbois will try and construe everything to make it seem like he's cheating or exploiting, so what's the point in even posting it? And why are we making such a big deal of it when he said he has no intentions to play ESO except on maybe a casual level now. He sure as hell won't be making 200k AP an hour that's for sure.

Edited cause grammar is hard

Like I said I wouldn't have said anything if his friend who overheard a private conversation didn't make it public.




Crown claimed this ^ wasn't even a good AP rate for him 56K in 15 Minutes. Just saying.

Dayum. *with mouth full of Ramen...That's crazy though! And at 5 in the morning? Were they just walking into your attacks? Oh wait. I think that's the point. Continue

Sypher

Ichnaea wrote: »

Sypher wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

Sypher wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

@Sypher my only problem with this whole thing is that this is based off of 2 screen shots that were taken 4 hours apart...4 hours is easily enough time for someone to AP farm up the leaderboards to where Nait did. I also don't see why you're bringing this up now when he's been able to AP farm like this for the last 3 or 4 campaigns now.

It was based on a lot more than just 2 screenshots. Also, the first screen shot was actually the wrong picture, it still only took ~2.5 hours for the AP to be gained. Which still makes it within reach but still a stretch, it was the circumstances behind this and the small lies here and there that makes it what it is.

When asked about his ~56K AP in 15 minutes, Crown responded with "That's not even that much, I can do a lot better than that" Him trying to belittle a 225K AP/Hour rate just shows he's trying to make it seem like it's not a big deal and can be achieved consistently.

I guess there's not much we can do until he provides the video he promised. There's no convincing you or anyone of his other guild mates. I don't blame you.

Regardless of the validity of the videos he provides I know your fanbois will try and construe everything to make it seem like he's cheating or exploiting, so what's the point in even posting it? And why are we making such a big deal of it when he said he has no intentions to play ESO except on maybe a casual level now. He sure as hell won't be making 200k AP an hour that's for sure.

Edited cause grammar is hard

Like I said I wouldn't have said anything if his friend who overheard a private conversation didn't make it public.




Crown claimed this ^ wasn't even a good AP rate for him 56K in 15 Minutes. Just saying.

Dayum. *with mouth full of Ramen...That's crazy though! And at 5 in the morning? Were they just walking into your attacks? Oh wait. I think that's the point. Continue

Ask the man himself. :P

RinaldoGandolphi

I'm not even his guild mate and I can tell you right now sypher that he don't cheat. I know I have fought against and observed Crown and his gameplay for months. He does what he does legit.

@Crown had done so much for not only AD but ESO in general he doesn't deserve this. My only regret is not having an AD toon, I'd love to fight alongside Crown, but I'll likely never get the opportunity. Regardless this is poor sportsmanship all around

Throwing such insinuations around is clearly against the TOS and folks have been banned here for less

Guess now we will see if ZOS show any preferential treatment eh?

Enraged_Tiki_Torch

Wow! This is complete news to me. People emperor farming, what a shocker!!! Unfair tactics being used? NO WAY!!

Sypher

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

I'm not even his guild mate and I can tell you right now sypher that he don't cheat. I know I have fought against and observed Crown and his gameplay for months. He does what he does legit.

@Crown had done so much for not only AD but ESO in general he doesn't deserve this. My only regret is not having an AD toon, I'd love to fight alongside Crown, but I'll likely never get the opportunity. Regardless this is poor sportsmanship all around

Throwing such insinuations around is clearly against the TOS and folks have been banned here for less

Guess now we will see if ZOS show any preferential treatment eh?

Zheg

Can we all please make a solemn promise to continue the general salt levels when we go to CU? I'm greatly concerned that we won't be any where near as irritable or angry at each other in a game that is at least half-functional. We'll need the drama for nostalgia if for nothing else.