Change RACE is a BIG YES!

BloodWolfe

I can deal with race changes (I'm not for it but I can live with it) but NOT class changes! We can't have everyone changing classes to FOTM on a whim and not knowing how to play that class, then switching again and so on. You picked your class and levelled it up now live with it or roll a new character to play a new class.

Race changes are one thing but not class changes!

Father_X_Zombie

I have an Imperial magicka sorc that i want to change to Breton (dont like high elves) because when i did the math im missing over 3000 magicka with my race and im probably the only magicka sorc out there with a 27k health pool.I love Imperials but they make bad sorcs

EsoRecon

emily3989 wrote: »

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see racial passives to be as game breaking as everyone makes them out to be. I am not a min/maxer, but looking at the bonuses, they all seem like basic trade-offs to me that can be compensated for with glyphs, gear, etc.

10% more stam
12% more health
21% more stam regen
10% more magic

just some examples. These are a big deal.

emily3989

EsoRecon wrote: »

emily3989 wrote: »

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see racial passives to be as game breaking as everyone makes them out to be. I am not a min/maxer, but looking at the bonuses, they all seem like basic trade-offs to me that can be compensated for with glyphs, gear, etc.

10% more stam
12% more health
21% more stam regen
10% more magic

just some examples. These are a big deal.

You get all this from 1 race?

Imperial = 12% health; 10% stamina

Wood elf = 21% stam regen

Yea Imp is better overall I would say, but with wood you could ignore stam regen and put emphasis on the other areas to minimize the adv. (such as health/stam pool glyphs)

Some have advantages over others for certain classes, but after you look at the diff. betw. two specific classes and negate the positives of one from the other, you are not looking at any overall game-breaking differences.

Father_X_Zombie

emily3989 wrote: »

EsoRecon wrote: »

emily3989 wrote: »

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see racial passives to be as game breaking as everyone makes them out to be. I am not a min/maxer, but looking at the bonuses, they all seem like basic trade-offs to me that can be compensated for with glyphs, gear, etc.

10% more stam
12% more health
21% more stam regen
10% more magic

just some examples. These are a big deal.

You get all this from 1 race?

Imperial = 12% health; 10% stamina

Wood elf = 21% stam regen

Yea Imp is better overall I would say, but with wood you could ignore stam regen and put emphasis on the other areas to minimize the adv. (such as health/stam pool glyphs)

Some have advantages over others for certain classes, but after you look at the diff. betw. two specific classes and negate the positives of one from the other, you are not looking at any overall game-breaking differences.

Imperial passives suck imo, They are the worst stamina dps race and are meh tanks. Orcs are the best tanks and better dps but Redguards are the best dps. red diamond sucks. and you have to pay to be Imperial, i only am for nostalgia reasons.

milesrodneymcneely2_ESO

I don't see the objection.

More choice is better, IMHO.

It seems like the people arguing against it get off on depriving other people of their own choices.

Bunch of control freaks, if you ask me.

emily3989

milesrodneymcneely2_ESO wrote: »

I don't see the objection.

More choice is better, IMHO.

It seems like the people arguing against it get off on depriving other people of their own choices.

Bunch of control freaks, if you ask me.

They had a choice when they rolled their character.

I have played a bunch of MMOs, perhaps some do, but I can't recall any I played allowing race changes. I am not saying they shouldn't, if ZOS adds it I won't care, because I chose my race based on what I like as far as role-play/game-play, not on squeezing an extra 2% dps out of my character in dungeons because of the changes to the last DLC update say I should.

Lynx7386

I really wish they'd allow race and class changes. I only get a few short hours per week to play, and despite playing since pc launch my highest character is still only v7, I simply do not have time to play another character, but I'm finding that so much has changed with the game balance and roles that I dont really enjoy him much anymore.

It'd spark new life into the game for me if they'd let me swap class, but i know it will never happen.

dodgehopper_ESO

Father_X_Zombie wrote: »

I have an Imperial magicka sorc that i want to change to Breton (dont like high elves) because when i did the math im missing over 3000 magicka with my race and im probably the only magicka sorc out there with a 27k health pool.I love Imperials but they make bad sorcs

I personally think that Attribute bonuses should be for a set amount, not for a percentage. This would mean that a Nord mage dps build would have a set amount of bonus health, and could therefore worry less about raising that attribute by focusing on something else with glyphs. Building around your weaknesses was a big part of past TES games, and I really wish they'd (re)design the game to suit that style.

In fact I would take it so far as to say all the racial effects should be a static amount based on level. I don't think +Regen should be a percentage it should be an amount. This would make it far easier to balance, and it would make the racial choices a little less of a focus.

TheShadowScout

BloodWolfe wrote: »

I can deal with race changes (I'm not for it but I can live with it) but NOT class changes!

Rest easy then, for ZOS agrees with that one. They said that race changes will be coming, alliance changes they might consider, but class changes they have no intention of ever implementing...