This is what kills PvP

Lyar09

I know every Alliance does this and it is wrong. But, night capping the entire map has to stop. Doing this literally kills morale and pvp. People are going to come onto Haderus and campaigns like this a literally leave because nobody wants to deal with this. I am perfectly fine with an alliance capping emp over night. But, this every single resource and keep? Come on now. We as a community need to stop this.

http://prntscr.com/am5f1a

bitaken

Been going on since Pre release.

It's not going to stop.

There is every incentive to do it - and no dis-incentive not to.

Distillateur

Yeah, if a buddy wants to get his Emp, sure PvDoor happens. But rolling the whole UNDEFENDED map, then actively camping every resource when the opposing faction is nearly nonexistent... show some interest in competition! Don't glut yourself on making a sleeping map Red. You shame your whole faction.

Show some class.

PrinceFabious

Haddy was night capped? I thought we had EMP for a whole day before this lol. You mean the night capped resources and home keeps right? Just trying to get all the details here

PrinceFabious

Distillateur wrote: »

Yeah, if a buddy wants to get his Emp, sure PvDoor happens. But rolling the whole UNDEFENDED map, then actively camping every resource when the opposing faction is nearly nonexistent... show some interest in competition! Don't glut yourself on making a sleeping map Red. You shame your whole faction.

Show some class.

Every faction does it. "Oh wow its not my faction this time so il post a pic on forums"

starlizard70ub17_ESO

It gives the people from other factions something to do when they wake up. Every faction does it, (and they thought removing campaign buffs outside of your home campaign would stop this). I remember playing AD and Haderus staying yellow for months at a time, every time ar ed or blue even though about taking a resource, a zerg of 20 -40 yellows would rush in to stomp them. Red and Yellow would trade off holding the ill fated gated campaign for weeks at a time. I don't like that the campaigns are like this, but I don't think its going to change anytime soon.

Bfish22090

maybe people dont play at normal hours as you? oceanic or AUS?

Lyar09

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Haddy was night capped? I thought we had EMP for a whole day before this lol. You mean the night capped resources and home keeps right? Just trying to get all the details here

Did you read anything I posted? I acknowledged that every alliance does this. I didn't say haderus was nightcapped last night. I was using this image as an example for my claim. You always have something negative to say. You should try reading the entire post and not just skim and pick out a few words to make your points.

Stratforge

If you actually cared you'd stay awake.

PrinceFabious

Lyar09 wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Haddy was night capped? I thought we had EMP for a whole day before this lol. You mean the night capped resources and home keeps right? Just trying to get all the details here

Did you read anything I posted? I acknowledged that every alliance does this. I didn't say haderus was nightcapped last night. I was using this image as an example for my claim. You always have something negative to say. You should try reading the entire post and not just skim and pick out a few words to make your points.

Then why even post this because everyday the factions will reclaim their keeps and we will be down to one EMP keep. Someones gotta post the hard truth even if its negative. Get a group and recap. Yes, I know 2vXers dont like setting up siege but dirty work needs to be done to prevent a map like this.

Lyar09

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Lyar09 wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Haddy was night capped? I thought we had EMP for a whole day before this lol. You mean the night capped resources and home keeps right? Just trying to get all the details here

Did you read anything I posted? I acknowledged that every alliance does this. I didn't say haderus was nightcapped last night. I was using this image as an example for my claim. You always have something negative to say. You should try reading the entire post and not just skim and pick out a few words to make your points.

Then why even post this because everyday the factions will reclaim their keeps and we will be down to one EMP keep. Someones gotta post the hard truth even its negative. Get a group and recap. Yes, I know 2vXers dont like setting up siege but dirty work needs to be done to prevent a map like this.

I'm posting it to make a point that we as a community shouldnt do this. I also dont always small group but I caught your drift there. I just dont think its necessary for a single faction to own the entire map to include every single resource. Lets make pvp competitive, not kill it.

Mojmir

Id be mad if i wasn't ep. Sorry

PrinceFabious

Lyar09 wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Lyar09 wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Haddy was night capped? I thought we had EMP for a whole day before this lol. You mean the night capped resources and home keeps right? Just trying to get all the details here

Did you read anything I posted? I acknowledged that every alliance does this. I didn't say haderus was nightcapped last night. I was using this image as an example for my claim. You always have something negative to say. You should try reading the entire post and not just skim and pick out a few words to make your points.

Then why even post this because everyday the factions will reclaim their keeps and we will be down to one EMP keep. Someones gotta post the hard truth even its negative. Get a group and recap. Yes, I know 2vXers dont like setting up siege but dirty work needs to be done to prevent a map like this.

I'm posting it to make a point that we as a community shouldnt do this. I also dont always small group but I caught your drift there. I just dont think its necessary for a single faction to own the entire map to include every single resource. Lets make pvp competitive, not kill it.

I agree.. But pugs will be pugs. I dont think any serious player is actually part of the group that caps those last home keeps. Do you have a solution?

Distillateur

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Get a group and recap. Yes, I know 2vXers dont like setting up siege but dirty work needs to be done to prevent a map like this.

you got it

reften

only thing killing pvp is lag. period. Everything else I can live with, even night capping

Humphie

Stratforge wrote: »

If you actually cared you'd stay awake.

lmao

_Chaos

With only two CP enabled campaigns, there's just no excuse for this.
AD and DC need to pick it up.

But pushing everyone back to the gates? shame!

x5ofspadez

If someone has a problem with this. do something about it.
The only shame is that the competition is not even willing to defend their keeps. Therefore take everything.

MichYodias

There is only one person to blame here and that of course is @Akinos

AbraXuSeXile

Its because of emp people night cap

bitaken

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

Its because of emp people night cap

Possibly, but if that were the case ....why take everything and then defend every step of the way?

kuro-dono

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

Its because of emp people night cap

i think its the lack of heroin and redbull and crisps.

Its modern gamers third world problems> how to have fun? to make sure nobody else has fun, problem sorted!

Forestd16b14_ESO

And threads like this need to stop. Why ? Well guess some one will explain again.

Not every one who plays this game plays during YOUR prime time. So why should their be a penitently or no game play at all just cause you are not playing but some one else is ? Why should some one who plays in a different time zone be punished or some one who works night shifts but has the night off ? There are plenty of players who can ONLY PLAY AT NIGHT.

Hopefully this finally gets through those thick skulls of you players who been crying about night capping cause it isn't going away any time soon and shouldn't because again..... Why should players who live in different time zones or work at night not play just cause you aren't ?

Besides don't blame them blame the players who cried to ZOS for a non-CP campaign cause Haderus and Trueflame are the only campaigns that really have any one.

Lyar09

Oh give me a break about this bs about players not playing during prime time so it makes it justifiable. Trueflame doesn't get turned one color over night. So why does Haderus? How is sieging against literally nobody enjoyable pvp? Your logic is completely bogus. There is no honor or respect in one alliance taking the entire map when the campaign is literally dead.

Obliterate

Why is it not justifiable, like Forest said people work night shifts therefore are playing when most of us are not. Should they not capture keeps because most of the other players have work/school in the morning and are asleep. No one should have to think oh maybe I shouldn't do what the game allows me to do just incase it upsets the opposing team that we're FIGHTING against. I'm DC and I can justify EP doing this, fair play to them.. when they're asleep I shall do the same.

heystreethawk

I do not believe that people who flip the map in the dead of night are actually interested in PvPing; at the least, they are not interested in PvPing without the benefit of extraordinary advantages.

You can play the time zone card, certainly -- and we can point out that Trueflame has opponents available to fight around the clock. It isn't laggy at the hours which the subjects of this thread flip the entirety of unpopulated, undefended Haderus to their control, so the rationale here starts to wear thin.

If you want to PvP during your area's primetime, or the unusual time of day which you have available for leisure activities, you know, walk with Christ, of course you want to do that, so why aren't you doing that on the campaign that actually has some Ps to V during the timeframe that works for you? PvDoor is anathema to any serious PvP guild. We are here to fight people, not guards; if you are unable to achieve victory when/where there are players capable of defending against you, then you have not earned that victory. Go to Trueflame, or go run a pledge.

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO

Lyar09 wrote: »

I know every Alliance does this and it is wrong. But, night capping the entire map has to stop. Doing this literally kills morale and pvp. People are going to come onto Haderus and campaigns like this a literally leave because nobody wants to deal with this. I am perfectly fine with an alliance capping emp over night. But, this every single resource and keep? Come on now. We as a community need to stop this.

http://prntscr.com/am5f1a

you realize that a lot of "night capping" is people in other parts of the world playing during their day and/or their primetime- like the australians. you do understand this right.
night capping simply dosent exist(in a literal way) on an international server with people repping all timezones.

Elong

It's not about time zones. I'm in NZ, so I'm usually called a night capper.

It's about leaving a couple of keeps because it keeps the other faction interested.

Pushing a faction to a gate will decrease the amount of pvp you get.

Unless you're simply after PVDoor of course.

apostate9

Lyar09 wrote: »

I know every Alliance does this and it is wrong. But, night capping the entire map has to stop. Doing this literally kills morale and pvp. People are going to come onto Haderus and campaigns like this a literally leave because nobody wants to deal with this. I am perfectly fine with an alliance capping emp over night. But, this every single resource and keep? Come on now. We as a community need to stop this.

http://prntscr.com/am5f1a

We'll just have to advise Australia to move.

bitaken

heystreethawk wrote: »

I do not believe that people who flip the map in the dead of night are actually interested in PvPing; at the least, they are not interested in PvPing without the benefit of extraordinary advantages.

You can play the time zone card, certainly -- and we can point out that Trueflame has opponents available to fight around the clock. It isn't laggy at the hours which the subjects of this thread flip the entirety of unpopulated, undefended Haderus to their control, so the rationale here starts to wear thin.

If you want to PvP during your area's primetime, or the unusual time of day which you have available for leisure activities, you know, walk with Christ, of course you want to do that, so why aren't you doing that on the campaign that actually has some Ps to V during the timeframe that works for you? PvDoor is anathema to any serious PvP guild. We are here to fight people, not guards; if you are unable to achieve victory when/where there are players capable of defending against you, then you have not earned that victory. Go to Trueflame, or go run a pledge.

QFT

And...there is a camp wherein they could actually fight players. They chose not to go there. It's a source of great frustration. However, when you fight the people who are "valiantly defending EMP!!!" you realize quickly why they night flip the entire map and get all the scrolls. Without them...it's not much of a fight. Even with the benefits of the scrolls and keeps most of the time if even numbered - these people fall over.

yote

Obliterate wrote: »

Why is it not justifiable

cuz Cyrodiil is for PvP? If ya just wanna smash buttons you can do that in PvE land.

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO wrote: »

you realize that a lot of "night capping" is people in other parts of the world playing during their day and/or their primetime- like the australians. you do understand this right.
night capping simply dosent exist(in a literal way) on an international server with people repping all timezones.

Maybe the Aussies should've thought about this before they all decided to join one faction. And this isn't even a defense anyways. The people doing this are PvDooring. IF there was PvP to be had I would understand pushing a faction back as far as you could - but there isn't. If ya want to press left click and roll your face on the keyboard go PvE, don't ruin what little bit of enjoyable PvP we happen to find in this game.