Vicious death nerf?

Amorpho

To nerf the Vicious Set - I don't mind the mechanics of this set, but it's not right to work really hard as a group to get to the entrance of the inner keep and then get blown away by 2-3 magicka nightblades with proxy-det. This set, the way it is, has just become too overpowered. It's literally a joke. It's making me lose interest in large battles.

Asmael

None of these.

Remove VD, stop the bandaid fixes, and remove AOE caps.

Beating a dead horse? Yessir.

Amorpho

Add a limit to the number of fire explosions caused by the Vicious Set

Asmael wrote: »

None of these.

Remove VD, stop the bandaid fixes, and remove AOE caps.

Beating a dead horse? Yessir.

We asked for that countless times but it is now evident that they don't want to do that. What a shame. The PVP here could be the best any MMO has ever seen :''(

JD2013

No more nerfs!

Fasold666

Leave everything as it is

Leave it as it is AND remove aoe caps...
Then eso pvp might get interesting again.

mattymaats

Someone got salty over @sypherpk

Wollust

Leave everything as it is

Step 1: Remove AoE caps, bring back dynamic ultimate.
Step 2: Remove VD and proxy
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Profit

Francescolg

Nerf the damage of the Vicious Set

This Set should've never been introduced and it is just a further example, that some (higher Level) responsible guys have a wrong understanding about pvp, especially about area effects: it all started in Fall 2014 with Steel Tornado, Magicka Detonation and the Vicious Set is just a further example of their shortcomings.
If you really want to solve this problem, one guy behind all that AoE-related decisions should leave Zos, as nothing is going to change, if the structure behind that AoE-decisions stays untouched!

rotaugen454

Nerf all the things!

Inarre

Dont nerf it i havent finished making my mag blade yet!

neo7185

Asmael wrote: »

None of these.

Remove VD, stop the bandaid fixes, and remove AOE caps.

Beating a dead horse? Yessir.

For the time being, VD needs to remain in place, but you are correct that overall it shouldn't be a thing. It is sad that it was needed to begin with, but until AOE caps are removed (wouldn't hold your breath) this is the "solution" we're getting from the dev teams. Ball groups filled with trash players who teabag after a 20v1 are still roaming too freely, but VD is at least helping in the meantime.

NBrookus

Asmael wrote: »

None of these.

Remove VD, stop the bandaid fixes, and remove AOE caps.

Beating a dead horse? Yessir.

Ditto. I'm running it with proxy det now because it's the magicka counter to steel tornado/batswarm bomb -- the "counter" being my group might wipe yours before you wipe us -- but I still think it's processed cheese in a can.

flguy147ub17_ESO

Feel like PVP has turned into prox/inev det with meteor with vicious death. That combo is insane and so many people are running this, also Sorc will throw curse on top of that. The timing of all those is way too OP. I really miss the old days where you could actually battle somebody for 30 secs in a fight.

Burning_Talons

Nerf the damage of the Vicious Set

Remove AOE caps and VD or make the damage nerfed as it kills 3 man groups because of it

Jimboo84

Amorpho wrote: »

To nerf the Vicious Set - I don't mind the mechanics of this set, but it's not right to work really hard as a group to get to the entrance of the inner keep and then get blown away by 2-3 magicka nightblades with proxy-det. This set, the way it is, has just become too overpowered. It's literally a joke. It's making me lose interest in large battles.

If you want to nerf, just nerf everything you can't avoid in PvP.
Prox Detonation in group fe.

Persons only using this 1 skill is veeerry boring.

And things as Meteor, which you can't avoid IRL, it's possible in ESO...

Ghost-Shot

Nerf the damage of the Vicious Set

The damage is way to high, remove it or nerf it into the ground and remove AoE caps, that's all you need to do. If you remove AoE caps and people still can't wipe out raids then those particular people are not good enough for zerg bombs, plain and simple.

SneaK

Just fix it. VD shouldn't completely blow me up in a 1v1.

Inarre

I like having squishy nightblades jump into my party while we farm telvar. It gives me extra ap.

Eleusian

It adds element of strategy. Maybe someone needs to hit a inner lite in keeps. Just a suggestion . It creates a behavior change . I don't even have it set up yet but like the concept

PlagueMonk

Eleusian wrote: »

It adds element of strategy. Maybe someone needs to hit a inner lite in keeps. Just a suggestion . It creates a behavior change . I don't even have it set up yet but like the concept

No not really imho. I don't consider FF 1-2 people down to basically wipe an entire zerg much of a strategy.

And the answer is none of the suggested. All they need to do is add a 3 sec delay between death and explosion. Simple, problem solved. (this will do what it I believe was intended, to break up zergs and cause chaos. My way however doesn't wipe entire zergs unless they aren't paying attention)

Xjcon

Leave everything as it is

How about leaving it as is. So tired of the stack and AOE meta. Get rekt by VD!

Marktoneth3

This is a game for magicka

You wanna nerf ?


Nah,Zos would probably fix the game bugs instead of nerf Magicka

iam117

Leave everything as it is

you dont need VD to blow up groups and a nb, removing it will not stop it from happening, it just allowed other classes (like sorcerer etc) to wipe groups with ease. this build existed with nb before the set, its just harder to use without VD, but still extremely effective, people saw the armor which takes it to a whole new level, threw it on youtube, and now its a thing. use inner light/detect pots, dont all sit in super close proximity (pun intended) to each other when your around a keep or resource.

Mojmir

Friendly fire

Nifty2g

where is the cool down option?

Callous2208

Add a limit to the number of fire explosions caused by the Vicious Set

I think we should leave it alone! I've had one death recap out of 100, without it and prox in a week of PvP. Obviously there is still 1 person not using it, therefore, it's a non issue.

Universe

Leave everything as it is

I don't mind if they leave it as it is.

But there is a bug that makes the vicious death proc before there is an actual death(immediate 13k-20k damage), so even in 1v1, the player with the vicious death set has a significant advantage over the one who doesn't have it.
I hope it will be fixed in the next incremental patch.

IcyDeadPeople

I'd say a little less base damage but increase it based on the number of enemies within range. Also proxy det a little less base damage for 1v1, 1v2 etc, but more damage when you are hitting 10 people balled up together.

SneaK wrote: »

Just fix it. VD shouldn't completely blow me up in a 1v1.

It doesn't, that's a UI bug that makes it appear on your death recap even when it doesn't do any damage to the person who proc'ced it.

rfennell_ESO

I vote "fix it".

Because there is obviously something broken with it.

From there, a fixed perspective... decisions can actually be contemplated.

strikeback1247

Leave everything as it is

It just feels so good to be able to wreck groups as a solo player. Especially now with the AP increase. That moment when you wipe a group of 6+ players on a resource, get 10k ap and another 10k tick :^)

Lokey0024

Leave everything as it is

Fix prox det to be a zerg breaker, not a single target ability. You can hit someone for 10k just by a set it and forget it. Vicious death is fine