I have to PAY to respec?

Razel42

If you change a class' skills or the champion point system altogether please give me one free respec. It adds insult to injury to make me pay to get my character back up to speed after you f%$& with it. Thank you, that is all.

Chres

ok.

Gothlander

Razel42 wrote: »

If you change a class' skills or the champion point system altogether please give me one free respec. It adds insult to injury to make me pay to get my character back up to speed after you f%$& with it. Thank you, that is all.

For new players, one of your goals should be to make as much gold as you can while lvling up. It is easy to make gold in this game.

Razel42

It's not about the gold, it's about giving me the option to change my character after forced changes are made on my class. It's a common courtesy in almost any game I've ever played really

LadyNalcarya

Well, you should thank those who QQed about respecs because they couldnt remember which skills they were using.
Zos just removed free respecs because of them, instead of making them optional or something.

leepalmer95

LOL you think you've got it bad?

I have to respec cp on 7 characters. 21k gold.

Also have to re skill 3-4 characters with 250+ points each which will cost me around 40k gold xD

Gothlander

Razel42 wrote: »

It's not about the gold, it's about giving me the option to change my character after forced changes are made on my class. It's a common courtesy in almost any game I've ever played really

Ah ok I get you. Yeah we should get a free re spec I agree with you.

Sunburnt_Penguin

The thing that annoyed me about the changes in this patch was the complete and utter inconsistencies in how ZOS recompensed:

- Changed dynamics of Campaigns from CP to non-CP = free Campaign switch

- Changed effectiveness of abilities & CPs = no free respec

I have literally no idea how they believe these warrant different actions - they're exactly the same principles.

If they've taken people moaning last time about having to unnecessarily respec in to account, they should've just issued a Crown store item for every character to be used within one week after your next log-on of the DLC release. That way it's optional.

However, I just think ZO$ have used that group of people as an excuse to try and get players to spend cash on Crowns to save gold.

Reevster

Not this again.... maybe they should just take away the option to respec , then people might have something worth whining about ...maybe...

BlackEar

Yes you do.

MishMash

I was thinking we should be able to switch to a preset setting for our CP and Skill morphs each time we go between PvE and PvP.

PvP and PvE are two different things and I would love to have the option to simply switch to a PvE preset and a PvP preset. Why not allow us that option?

I have mentioned this a few times in large groups to get their opinions and they all said that would be wonderful!

threefarms

Damn ZOS

Krycek89

Be careful what you whinge about then
Be careful what you wish for
there is a myriad of phrases that all say the same thing; and in this instance it is soooooo awesome to see that the idiocy of the masses and the moanful nature of the greater consensus ( the empty vessels- loudest noises and all that ) have taken something fantastic and turned it on its head all due to the fact that it was "too hard to respec all their characters after a major patch"
Thank those that would come to the forums and cry and moan about the most trivial of things... Everyone is guilty of this, myself included at times.

we come on here and whinge about EVERY little aspect of this game; "this is too hard" "this is too easy" this should be like this" "this should be like that". Yes this game could be SO much more but between the low staff levels the multitude of issues already in the game ; and the fact that devs are reading contrary and unhelpful inputs from the masses that can't tell a guar from head to tail and thus making changes that simply go around in circles, i'm surprised they don;t just up and leave.

so yes in short people B!tched about the respecs that we got, so they removed them so we can now b!tch about that now instead

GreenGhostMan

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

Well, you should thank those who QQed about respecs because they couldnt remember which skills they were using.
Zos just removed free respecs because of them, instead of making them optional or something.

Solution is to give the player a choice. Mail every player a respec scroll that expires in 14 days. If they don't want to respec then don't use it. If you do want to respec you have time to write down what skills you had before. Easy.

ManwithBeard9

Razel42 wrote: »

It's not about the gold, it's about giving me the option to change my character after forced changes are made on my class. It's a common courtesy in almost any game I've ever played really

It was a common courtesy. Until people starting whining and crying left and right because they couldnt remember how they had skills set. So ZOS announced MONTHS ago that there would no longer be a free respec when they change skills until they have a system in place to respec one skill at a time.

TheShadowScout

ManwithBeard9 wrote: »

It was a common courtesy. Until people starting whining and crying left and right because they couldnt remember how they had skills set. So ZOS announced MONTHS ago that there would no longer be a free respec when they change skills until they have a system in place to respec one skill at a time.

^This!^

As has been said, it used to be so, it no longer is that way, because too many people complained. Might be that way again, someday.

Eshelmen

Only once in a while will this happen.

Volkodav

TheShadowScout wrote: »

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ManwithBeard9 wrote: »

It was a common courtesy. Until people starting whining and crying left and right because they couldnt remember how they had skills set. So ZOS announced MONTHS ago that there would no longer be a free respec when they change skills until they have a system in place to respec one skill at a time.

^This!^

As has been said, it used to be so, it no longer is that way, because too many people complained. Might be that way again, someday.

Agree 100%!!

Waseem

dude i played an MMO where u pay 110$ to respec your skills
is this a joke?

courtney1191

Reevster wrote: »

Not this again.... maybe they should just take away the option to respec , then people might have something worth whining about ...maybe...

The option to respec is really valuable, especially when they update/tweak skills/CP.

It's also great when you have a change of heart about the direction in which you want to take your character.

I agree that if they changes to CP or skills are big enough that a reduced price or a free respec would be nice, especially if someone has to do that for multiple characters.

nine9six

Waseem wrote: »

dude i played an MMO where u pay 110$ to respec your skills
is this a joke?

lol they *loved* you.

Benie

Waseem wrote: »

dude i played an MMO where u pay 110$ to respec your skills
is this a joke?

I'm curious what was this MMO that the company was taking full advantage of people. It can't be WoW, because they charge $25 for pretty much every option there.

Lightninvash

Razel42 wrote: »

It's not about the gold, it's about giving me the option to change my character after forced changes are made on my class. It's a common courtesy in almost any game I've ever played really

they did this before and everyone complained because skills were reset so they decided no more because the community complains either way and its not worth flipping the switch just to get complains about giving a free respec.

EDIT after reading some above comments I see this has been mentioned. so complaining about too many things makes you get what you ask for. people didn't want a free respec so they didn't give one now everyone wants one. zos is probably realizing there is no winning with the community we have here in eso lol

courtney1191

Lightninvash wrote: »

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Razel42 wrote: »

It's not about the gold, it's about giving me the option to change my character after forced changes are made on my class. It's a common courtesy in almost any game I've ever played really

they did this before and everyone complained because skills were reset so they decided no more because the community complains either way and its not worth flipping the switch just to get complains about giving a free respec.

EDIT after reading some above comments I see this has been mentioned. so complaining about too many things makes you get what you ask for. people didn't want a free respec so they didn't give one now everyone wants one. zos is probably realizing there is no winning with the community we have here in eso lol

I feel that kinda goes for a lot of MMOs. Hard to make everyone happy. (Although they can't be THAT unhappy seeing as they keep buying DLCs)

technohic

Is it really because of people who complained about being reset? Or is it because resets are in the cash shop?

LadyNalcarya

technohic wrote: »

Is it really because of people who complained about being reset? Or is it because resets are in the cash shop?

In cash shop theyre so overpriced that no one in their right mind would buy them. ^^ Considering thta its just 10k gold, and motif pages are selling like hot cakes for 30+

nine9six

technohic wrote: »

Is it really because of people who complained about being reset? Or is it because resets are in the cash shop?

It's because casuals complained. True story.

"...something, something, it's too hard to remember what skills I had because I'm brain-dead, something, something..."

CJohnson81

Funny, I've only been around ESO to have one free respec. When I signed on that day I thought it was a freak bug. Now, I would jump at the chance to get a free one now - just to get back those points in random skills I don't use.

To address those complainers about having to respec, yeah maybe it should have been an option - like when you sign in. "Hi, we've done some class balancing and we can offer a free respec. Would you like to reset your skills?" Yes, no, answer, move on.

Unfortunately, the problem with ZOS ignoring the players and just making the game they want to make is that people would complain that no one's listening.

Lightninvash

technohic wrote: »

Is it really because of people who complained about being reset? Or is it because resets are in the cash shop?

because so many people complained that they didn't have a chance to write down the skills passives and boons they used.... ijs if you need to write down what you are using you probably copied and pasted a build. they could reset me now and I would just pick back up everything I use and not suffer any loss in passives or stat loss because I build my chars on my own.

courtney1191 wrote: »

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Lightninvash wrote: »

Razel42 wrote: »

It's not about the gold, it's about giving me the option to change my character after forced changes are made on my class. It's a common courtesy in almost any game I've ever played really

they did this before and everyone complained because skills were reset so they decided no more because the community complains either way and its not worth flipping the switch just to get complains about giving a free respec.

EDIT after reading some above comments I see this has been mentioned. so complaining about too many things makes you get what you ask for. people didn't want a free respec so they didn't give one now everyone wants one. zos is probably realizing there is no winning with the community we have here in eso lol

I feel that kinda goes for a lot of MMOs. Hard to make everyone happy. (Although they can't be THAT unhappy seeing as they keep buying DLCs)

that's life in general cant please everyone so why try. think this is/ should be the DEVS approach to running the game lol. @courtney1191

Ourorboros

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

Well, you should thank those who QQed about respecs because they couldnt remember which skills they were using.
Zos just removed free respecs because of them, instead of making them optional or something.

This might have been a valid excuse when Customer Service was fielding lots of phone calls QQing about 'forced respec", but SURPRISE, there is no more telephone CS to be overwhelmed. Are we to believe we're forced to pay for respecs so the CS email doesn't get overwhelmed by QQ? A poll on the topic of respec was OVERWHELMING in favor. zos is just lame. They are like little kids, responding to the shiny thing in front of them instead of adults able to look at the bigger picture and make decisions with a plan.

Talyena

Did anyone complain when they offered respecs for one gold?