Marksman for PvP-Why 2x Regeneration? Please vote

The_Legendary_Arya

The Set seems pretty nice for bow builds. The problem is , with 2x Regeneration on 2cond and 3rd setbonus are not really necessary; u have 5% Stamina Abilities Cost Reduction on last bonus anyway.

strikeback1247

You can never have enough regeneration especially in PvP

leepalmer95

The Set should be as it is

Stamina builds need a lot of regen anyway, double regen/dmg/reduction is a very good pvp set.

Could go 5x Hundings/5x marksmen with maelstrom weapons and use food ^^ Still have high regen.

GreenSoup2HoT

The Set should be as it is

We need the regen. Marksmen's have a different playstyle. You use sprint a lot more to kite then any other class. You do not regen stamina anymore while sprinting. So it's a good idea to be over 2k+ minimum.

I use my bow primary now and it's great. The problem is i do run out of stamina a lot when im using rapid's to get out of a sticky situation. I also use caltrop's too.

So in my opinion, i think it should stay.

You can always use a different mundus stone. I'm currently using the Warrior because i do not need the serpent for regen.

Beastnas

The Set should be as it is

The set is fine, in fact it's good enough that you can focus on more weapon damage/stamina/health elsewhere.

Hopefully bows themselves are buffed at some point, I'd would definitely use this set as is.

Wreuntzylla

I have a marksman shield...

xANTIxMATTERx

The 5th Bonus shall be changed PvP-wise(explain in Thread)

The 5th piece of the set should be changed to remove the "against enemy players" part. No reason why this can't work for PVE and PVP at the same time. It wouldn't be a buff for PVP...it's more of a way to make bow good for both PVP and PVE

Vaoh

The 5th Bonus shall be changed PvP-wise(explain in Thread)

^Same as above poster. This would be a really nice set for pure bow players, a rare thing in itself. The damage bonus only applying to enemy players is an unnecessary thing to add. It was almost a viable set, but now becomes absolutely worthless for a 5-piece.

kadar

The Set should be as it is

Just take the Stam Regen from the set and re-allocate other Regen stats to Weapon Damage or Stamina.

Unless you're one of those, "run away as soon as anyone attacks me" types, you need a bit of regen anyway.

d3nbark3r

It's a sustainability set.

Wearing 5 hundings, 4 marksman (2h/bow) with 3 jewellery.... 1 piece molag and 1 piece bloodspawn on a wood elf NB will give you around 2.4k-2.6k recov, even with all weapon dmg enchants on the jewelery, allowing for around 4k wpn dmg with that nice level of sustain which is needed now to compete with how over powered magika had became.

It's a decent set, leave it as it is.

The 5th trait is useless imo. 5% cost is pretty much nothing. 8% dmg for range attacks is also mediocre considering the only attack which the damage difference would be noticable on would be snipe/morphed.... and any real pvp player that wishes to utilise their character to the fullest would not be running snipe on their bow bar, which is why I only run the 4 piece.

If you want some extra max stam, simply use the above build and swap 4 piece marksman for 4 piece leki.

Yet again wouldn't recommend using the 5th leki piece, as it will reduce the effectiveness of your vigor heals quite considerably.

olsborg

The Set should be as it is

I like the set as it is. Mixes stuff up some apart from all the similar sets out there.

GreenSoup2HoT

The Set should be as it is

@d3nbark3r

So someone who does use snipe on their main bar does not class as a real pvp player? Kinda hard to take you seriously after saying somthing like that.

You underestimate the power of snipe. When i crit for 15k snipes in pvp nobodys laughing.

Also the 5 piece bonus is actually really good. Its good because you do not have to stack weapon damage to do great damage.

For instance i use shield breaker with this set and i still do tons of damage. Its a bow primary build with 2h buff bar.

i guess this sort of build does not fall under the "real pvp player" category.

sure a build like this would get wrecked by melee builds but you should see how easy is it to drop player after player when you have a front line with you.

kojou

The 5th Bonus shall be changed PvP-wise(explain in Thread)

I would like to see the 5 piece damage buff work in pvp and pve.

leepalmer95

The Set should be as it is

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

@d3nbark3r

So someone who does use snipe on their main bar does not class as a real pvp player? Kinda hard to take you seriously after saying somthing like that.

You underestimate the power of snipe. When i crit for 15k snipes in pvp nobodys laughing.

Also the 5 piece bonus is actually really good. Its good because you do not have to stack weapon damage to do great damage.

For instance i use shield breaker with this set and i still do tons of damage. Its a bow primary build with 2h buff bar.

i guess this sort of build does not fall under the "real pvp player" category.

sure a build like this would get wrecked by melee builds but you should see how easy is it to drop player after player when you have a front line with you.

I don't take anyone whose pvp playstyle is to hit people from 50+m away with an OP dmg skill.

Snipe Spammers, LOL xD

kadar

The Set should be as it is

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

@d3nbark3r

So someone who does use snipe on their main bar does not class as a real pvp player? Kinda hard to take you seriously after saying somthing like that.

You underestimate the power of snipe. When i crit for 15k snipes in pvp nobodys laughing.

Also the 5 piece bonus is actually really good. Its good because you do not have to stack weapon damage to do great damage.

For instance i use shield breaker with this set and i still do tons of damage. Its a bow primary build with 2h buff bar.

i guess this sort of build does not fall under the "real pvp player" category.

sure a build like this would get wrecked by melee builds but you should see how easy is it to drop player after player when you have a front line with you.

@GreenSoup2HoT , some people have this weird superiority complex towards anyone who doesn't run up and bash people in the face for a play style. Don't let it worry you.

d3nbark3r

The_Outsider wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

@d3nbark3r

So someone who does use snipe on their main bar does not class as a real pvp player? Kinda hard to take you seriously after saying somthing like that.

You underestimate the power of snipe. When i crit for 15k snipes in pvp nobodys laughing.

Also the 5 piece bonus is actually really good. Its good because you do not have to stack weapon damage to do great damage.

For instance i use shield breaker with this set and i still do tons of damage. Its a bow primary build with 2h buff bar.

i guess this sort of build does not fall under the "real pvp player" category.

sure a build like this would get wrecked by melee builds but you should see how easy is it to drop player after player when you have a front line with you.

@GreenSoup2HoT , some people have this weird superiority complex towards anyone who doesn't run up and bash people in the face for a play style. Don't let it worry you.

I'm sorry I don't enjoy pressing 1 button to kill someone.

leepalmer95 wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

@d3nbark3r

So someone who does use snipe on their main bar does not class as a real pvp player? Kinda hard to take you seriously after saying somthing like that.

You underestimate the power of snipe. When i crit for 15k snipes in pvp nobodys laughing.

Also the 5 piece bonus is actually really good. Its good because you do not have to stack weapon damage to do great damage.

For instance i use shield breaker with this set and i still do tons of damage. Its a bow primary build with 2h buff bar.

i guess this sort of build does not fall under the "real pvp player" category.

sure a build like this would get wrecked by melee builds but you should see how easy is it to drop player after player when you have a front line with you.

I don't take anyone whose pvp playstyle is to hit people from 50+m away with an OP dmg skill.

Snipe Spammers, LOL xD

THIS guy gets it exactly. I'm sorry I don't enjoy pressing 1 button to kill someone -.-

Teridaxus

My spider sense tells me you just want 2set, 3set and 4set as damage.

GreenSoup2HoT

The Set should be as it is

d3nbark3r wrote: »

The_Outsider wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

@d3nbark3r

So someone who does use snipe on their main bar does not class as a real pvp player? Kinda hard to take you seriously after saying somthing like that.

You underestimate the power of snipe. When i crit for 15k snipes in pvp nobodys laughing.

Also the 5 piece bonus is actually really good. Its good because you do not have to stack weapon damage to do great damage.

For instance i use shield breaker with this set and i still do tons of damage. Its a bow primary build with 2h buff bar.

i guess this sort of build does not fall under the "real pvp player" category.

sure a build like this would get wrecked by melee builds but you should see how easy is it to drop player after player when you have a front line with you.

@GreenSoup2HoT , some people have this weird superiority complex towards anyone who doesn't run up and bash people in the face for a play style. Don't let it worry you.

I'm sorry I don't enjoy pressing 1 button to kill someone.

leepalmer95 wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

@d3nbark3r

So someone who does use snipe on their main bar does not class as a real pvp player? Kinda hard to take you seriously after saying somthing like that.

You underestimate the power of snipe. When i crit for 15k snipes in pvp nobodys laughing.

Also the 5 piece bonus is actually really good. Its good because you do not have to stack weapon damage to do great damage.

For instance i use shield breaker with this set and i still do tons of damage. Its a bow primary build with 2h buff bar.

i guess this sort of build does not fall under the "real pvp player" category.

sure a build like this would get wrecked by melee builds but you should see how easy is it to drop player after player when you have a front line with you.

I don't take anyone whose pvp playstyle is to hit people from 50+m away with an OP dmg skill.

Snipe Spammers, LOL xD

THIS guy gets it exactly. I'm sorry I don't enjoy pressing 1 button to kill someone -.-

Sounds like salty tears since your getting wrecked by people spamming one ability. Not saying i do that. I have better rotations then snipe spam.

@The_Outsider I dont care honestly. i kill so many people i could care less. people will always complain about bow builds just like people complaining about wrecking blow or proxi.

Mauz

The Set should be as it is

What I more wondering about is why I'm constantly getting swords and shields as reward from this set instead of bows...

Mysteri0n

I have a marksman Ice Staff

Sharee

The Set should be as it is

You need regen no matter what spec you play.

If you get it from the set bonuses, you can use other slots for damage. For example jewelry enchants, or choosing a different mundus.

In the end, whether you have 2 regen bonuses from set and 2x weapon damage on rings, or whether you have 1 regen 1 damage on set and 1 regen 1 damage on rings, the result is the same.

Vangy

d3nbark3r wrote: »

The_Outsider wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

@d3nbark3r

So someone who does use snipe on their main bar does not class as a real pvp player? Kinda hard to take you seriously after saying somthing like that.

You underestimate the power of snipe. When i crit for 15k snipes in pvp nobodys laughing.

Also the 5 piece bonus is actually really good. Its good because you do not have to stack weapon damage to do great damage.

For instance i use shield breaker with this set and i still do tons of damage. Its a bow primary build with 2h buff bar.

i guess this sort of build does not fall under the "real pvp player" category.

sure a build like this would get wrecked by melee builds but you should see how easy is it to drop player after player when you have a front line with you.

@GreenSoup2HoT , some people have this weird superiority complex towards anyone who doesn't run up and bash people in the face for a play style. Don't let it worry you.

I'm sorry I don't enjoy pressing 1 button to kill someone.

leepalmer95 wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

@d3nbark3r

So someone who does use snipe on their main bar does not class as a real pvp player? Kinda hard to take you seriously after saying somthing like that.

You underestimate the power of snipe. When i crit for 15k snipes in pvp nobodys laughing.

Also the 5 piece bonus is actually really good. Its good because you do not have to stack weapon damage to do great damage.

For instance i use shield breaker with this set and i still do tons of damage. Its a bow primary build with 2h buff bar.

i guess this sort of build does not fall under the "real pvp player" category.

sure a build like this would get wrecked by melee builds but you should see how easy is it to drop player after player when you have a front line with you.

I don't take anyone whose pvp playstyle is to hit people from 50+m away with an OP dmg skill.

Snipe Spammers, LOL xD

THIS guy gets it exactly. I'm sorry I don't enjoy pressing 1 button to kill someone -.-

Really? Every time i 1 or 2 hit them magicka builds running 7/7 light with VD and almost no hp with full QQ damage while their proxy is still ticking from 50m away I roflmaoooo likka boss. Gives me great pleasure and enjoyment. Also the hate tells that follow serve as additional entertainment. I also enjoy the tons of AP I get from this -_-" ..... weird..

sluice

Marksman is a great complimentary set, in my opinion.
Great to complete a 5 pieces Hunding Rage.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

I love the recovery I don't play a min max race so I don't have 35k stamina and 4k recovery

Emma_Overload

The Set should be as it is

This is the closest set stam builds have to Seducer...please don't change it!

kadar

The Set should be as it is

The_Outsider wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

@d3nbark3r

So someone who does use snipe on their main bar does not class as a real pvp player? Kinda hard to take you seriously after saying somthing like that.

You underestimate the power of snipe. When i crit for 15k snipes in pvp nobodys laughing.

Also the 5 piece bonus is actually really good. Its good because you do not have to stack weapon damage to do great damage.

For instance i use shield breaker with this set and i still do tons of damage. Its a bow primary build with 2h buff bar.

i guess this sort of build does not fall under the "real pvp player" category.

sure a build like this would get wrecked by melee builds but you should see how easy is it to drop player after player when you have a front line with you.

@GreenSoup2HoT , some people have this weird superiority complex towards anyone who doesn't run up and bash people in the face for a play style. Don't let it worry you.

@d3nbark3r

I'm sorry I don't enjoy pressing 1 button to kill someone.

My comment doesn't apply to you then (I don't enjoy it either).

My comment DOES apply to the saps who bash it because they keep getting wrecked... and then SAY they are bashing it because it's easy/cheap/cheese.