WB animation-cancel

sirrmattus

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Can yall please do something about this. It is game breaking. Have you not watched the videos? I dont care how strong the skill is, it shouldn't be invisible.

sluice

This ain't nothing "new"...
Do you really die this much because of it?

(By the way, this doesn't come from a WB user, I find it too hard to use in PVP agains't moderately experienced players)

Asmael

Should probably change "WB" to "All abilities with a cast time", e.g: Dark Flare, Crystal Fragments...

sirrmattus

sluice wrote: »

This ain't nothing "new"...
Do you really die this much because of it?

(By the way, this doesn't come from a WB user, I find it too hard to use in PVP agains't moderately experienced players)

you have no idea what you speak of

sirrmattus

Asmael wrote: »

Should probably change "WB" to "All abilities with a cast time", e.g: Dark Flare, Crystal Fragments...

havent seen this happen other than wb

Sugaroverdose

sirrmattus wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Can yall please do something about this. It is game breaking. Have you not watched the videos? I dont care how strong the skill is, it shouldn't be invisible.

They don't give a sh*t about that, they don't even try to fix other funny wb-specific things like:
20+ meters range after cast started
multiple cc in a raw without cc immunity

Everyone knows that WB is a overpowered and bugged like a dump and almost every stamina build does use it because of this.

sluice

sirrmattus wrote: »

sluice wrote: »

This ain't nothing "new"...
Do you really die this much because of it?

(By the way, this doesn't come from a WB user, I find it too hard to use in PVP agains't moderately experienced players)

you have no idea what you speak of

Because...?

Asmael

sirrmattus wrote: »

Asmael wrote: »

Should probably change "WB" to "All abilities with a cast time", e.g: Dark Flare, Crystal Fragments...

havent seen this happen other than wb

Here you go:

https://youtu.be/Ro3dKEmDZsI

Edit: Should also add that it's the CC immunity that needs a big rework, not WB itself. I stopped counting how many times I got CC'd twice in a row by this crap.

sirrmattus

im not talking about the cc. im talking about how someon can hit you with a wb and you never see the charge up/animation

pfalzer

Lag maybe?

sirrmattus

pfalzer wrote: »

Lag maybe?

NO.
go to youtube and type wrecking blow animation cancel

vamp_emily

♡ Kiss My WB ♡

sirrmattus

Asmael wrote: »

sirrmattus wrote: »

Asmael wrote: »

Should probably change "WB" to "All abilities with a cast time", e.g: Dark Flare, Crystal Fragments...

havent seen this happen other than wb

Here you go:

https://youtu.be/Ro3dKEmDZsI

Edit: Should also add that it's the CC immunity that needs a big rework, not WB itself. I stopped counting how many times I got CC'd twice in a row by this crap.

this is fkn ridiculous.

@ZOS_GinaBruno do yal not care????

Cryptical

sirrmattus wrote: »

Asmael wrote: »

Should probably change "WB" to "All abilities with a cast time", e.g: Dark Flare, Crystal Fragments...

havent seen this happen other than wb

On console it's a bit of an art... There's been a couple times I've managed to land two double-hits on a mob. WB cancelled into a light attack, with a brawler cancelled into a light attack that both landed before the mob hit the dirt.

Near as I can figure: Start the wrecking blow golf-swing then spam the light attack button. When the light attack sideways-swing is happening, start jackhammering brawler/light/brawler/light back and forth. gotta start close enough so the mob is within reach while flying backward.

Duiwel

OP have you been living under a rock for the past idk ?... Forever?

WB AC has always been a thing so much so that they changed the animations now to "accomodate" AC in ESO now.

It is here to stay learn to dodge people who use 2h... and you will be smiling all night long

Troneon

Any other game it would of been classed as a exploitable bug or "exploit" and hot fixed in less than a week....

but ZOS $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

And yes there are some pathetic people who still defend them and this kind of crap in games lol

No excuse especially after all this time..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrDSqODtEFM

waterfairy

Many MMO's have this clipping/animation cancel crap that's lame to use imo.

sirrmattus

Duiwel wrote: »

OP have you been living under a rock for the past idk ?... Forever?

WB AC has always been a thing so much so that they changed the animations now to "accomodate" AC in ESO now.

It is here to stay learn to dodge people who use 2h... and you will be smiling all night long

YOU CANT DODGE SOMETHING YOU CANT SEE

Minalan

Just stop the animation canceling already, the cheese you can do with WB, DB, and a dozen other skills is ridiculous. ZOS.

sirrmattus

Minalan wrote: »

Just stop the animation canceling already, the cheese you can do with WB, DB, and a dozen other skills is ridiculous. ZOS.

whats db?

sluice

sirrmattus wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Just stop the animation canceling already, the cheese you can do with WB, DB, and a dozen other skills is ridiculous. ZOS.

whats db?

Perhaps means Dark Flare...?

Minalan

Dawn breaker?

mr1sho

sirrmattus wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Can yall please do something about this. It is game breaking. Have you not watched the videos? I dont care how strong the skill is, it shouldn't be invisible.

It's apart of the game L2P or go home

DHale

I will give you a huge spoiler alert. If you see someone with a large two handed weapon i.e., maul, battle axe, or great sword you will be hit with wrecking blow. Not once but twice or it will be a wrecking blow followed by a leap. Please send in game gold to me for giving important tip. It just may save from not blocking or running immovable pots or ccing those people or walking into it or using a shield. Even if you saw the heavy attack and wb you can't do anything about it at that point before the heavy attack. Most ppl try to run from the wrecking blow and don't block either that is a mistake. Once you are knocked in the air you are most likely done.

sluice

DHale wrote: »

I will give you a huge spoiler alert. If you see someone with a large two handed weapon i.e., maul, battle axe, or great sword you will be hit with wrecking blow. Not once but twice or it will be a wrecking blow followed by a leap. Please send in game gold to me for giving important tip. It just may save from not blocking or running immovable pots or ccing those people or walking into it or using a shield. Even if you saw the heavy attack and wb you can't do anything about it at that point before the heavy attack. Most ppl try to run from the wrecking blow and don't block either that is a mistake. Once you are knocked in the air you are most likely done.

Pretty much sums it up!

flguy147ub17_ESO

Sometimes it is lag but i think its ridiculous that you can be hit by abilities that are invisible on screen due to animation cancelling. I dont know how anybody thinks its a good mechanic for gameplay except the ones who want advantage over other players who dont use it and i am willing to be over 80% of the players dont use or dont have a clue what it even is. And this is coming from somebody who does atleast basic animation cancelling but i still hate it but feel forced to use it. Also i think WB needs a rework, It just does too much for one abiility, if there was no lag and no animation cancelling then actually it would be ok cause it would be much easier to block and dodge. But when i am fighting somebody and i never ever see the ability then its impossible to dodge.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

I was always under the impression that these types of skills had internal cooldowns. I have no problem with a basic light attack weave into something like Crushing Shock, Funnel Health, Surprise Attack, etc. I think it adds a layer of skill. But no matter how fast you weave these spam skills, they wont fire faster than about once a second. With this type of weave you are really just squeezing in a light attack for a little more DPS.

This type of animation canceling on skills with a cast time is ridiculous, and I never quite understood what was going on until now. They are basically weaving Wrecking Blow as fast as an instant cast skill. Something needs to be changed. This is not skill; it's an exploit. It is allowing people to cast skills faster than their cast times, which is insane! Not to mention, you can see it coming, so how the F are you supposed to deal with it?

flguy147ub17_ESO

mr1sho wrote: »

sirrmattus wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Can yall please do something about this. It is game breaking. Have you not watched the videos? I dont care how strong the skill is, it shouldn't be invisible.

It's apart of the game L2P or go home

You cant learn to play against things that are invisible on screen, are you that dumb?

Spacemonkey

Asmael wrote: »

Should probably change "WB" to "All abilities with a cast time", e.g: Dark Flare, Crystal Fragments...

WB has a cast time but is not a channel, thus you can animation cancel.
It was my understanding that you cannot do that on a channel (i.e. Dark Flare), it cancels the channel and your Dark Flare won't be cast.

sirrmattus

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

I was always under the impression that these types of skills had internal cooldowns. I have no problem with a basic light attack weave into something like Crushing Shock, Funnel Health, Surprise Attack, etc. I think it adds a layer of skill. But no matter how fast you weave these spam skills, they wont fire faster than about once a second. With this type of weave you are really just squeezing in a light attack for a little more DPS.

This type of animation canceling on skills with a cast time is ridiculous, and I never quite understood what was going on until now. They are basically weaving Wrecking Blow as fast as an instant cast skill. Something needs to be changed. This is not skill; it's an exploit. It is allowing people to cast skills faster than their cast times, which is insane! Not to mention, you can see it coming, so how the F are you supposed to deal with it?

EXACT-***-LY

sirrmattus

flguy147ub17_ESO wrote: »

Sometimes it is lag but i think its ridiculous that you can be hit by abilities that are invisible on screen due to animation cancelling. I dont know how anybody thinks its a good mechanic for gameplay except the ones who want advantage over other players who dont use it and i am willing to be over 80% of the players dont use or dont have a clue what it even is. And this is coming from somebody who does atleast basic animation cancelling but i still hate it but feel forced to use it. Also i think WB needs a rework, It just does too much for one abiility, if there was no lag and no animation cancelling then actually it would be ok cause it would be much easier to block and dodge. But when i am fighting somebody and i never ever see the ability then its impossible to dodge.

its not the damage. its the animation