[Bug?] Molten Armaments Removing Stealth

Recremen

As the title says. Didn't used to, now it does. Doesn't make much sense to me. Even Vigor doesn't remove you from stealth, not sure why Molten Armaments should.

Alcast

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert

I also noticed this, before Thieves Guild it did not take you out of stealth, it does now. Is it supposed to? more nerfs

Recremen

Alcast wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert

I also noticed this, before Thieves Guild it did not take you out of stealth, it does now. Is it supposed to? more nerfs

Oh man, the nerf hammer is so real right now. I didn't want to believe it but from PTS to live it's all been true. I mean, the duration increase is nice for PvE, but taking away the heavy attack execute component completely destroyed the unique thing I was contributing to my PvP team. Now whenever there's an unkillable tank that the Nightblade can't execute they just call in a Templar to execute them instantly and from 28 meters away. Never mind silly DK who needs to charge up his finisher for a second and a half, and has to be in melee range, no less. In fact, let's just take away that thing altogether. My lamentations are endless on this point.

GreenSoup2HoT

Are you using the Masters Bow? This is the only weapon in game that pops you out of stealth when you use Vigor.

Maybe this happens with Moltens also?

Recremen

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Are you using the Masters Bow? This is the only weapon in game that pops you out of stealth when you use Vigor.

Maybe this happens with Moltens also?

No no, I'm not using any bow and Vigor does not pop me out of stealth. Molten Armaments pops me out of stealth regardless of the weapon I use.

caperon

Recremen wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Are you using the Masters Bow? This is the only weapon in game that pops you out of stealth when you use Vigor.

Maybe this happens with Moltens also?

No no, I'm not using any bow and Vigor does not pop me out of stealth. Molten Armaments pops me out of stealth regardless of the weapon I use.

Because now affects all your party. I think is something they have coded ingame, anything that can affect anyone else than you puts you out of stealth: rapid regen (can heal other people), volatile armor (aoe dmg), lighting form (aoe dmg) and now molten weapons (group buf)...

Recremen

caperon wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Are you using the Masters Bow? This is the only weapon in game that pops you out of stealth when you use Vigor.

Maybe this happens with Moltens also?

No no, I'm not using any bow and Vigor does not pop me out of stealth. Molten Armaments pops me out of stealth regardless of the weapon I use.

Because now affects all your party. I think is something they have coded ingame, anything that can affect anyone else than you puts you out of stealth: rapid regen (can heal other people), volatile armor (aoe dmg), lighting form (aoe dmg) and now molten weapons (group buf)...

I thought so too at first, but Vigor still does not take you out of stealth, and that's not just a buff, that's a heal. As far as I know, all damage abilities are supposed to take you out of stealth, and most healing abilities as well. Molten Armaments is neither.

caperon

Recremen wrote: »

caperon wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Are you using the Masters Bow? This is the only weapon in game that pops you out of stealth when you use Vigor.

Maybe this happens with Moltens also?

No no, I'm not using any bow and Vigor does not pop me out of stealth. Molten Armaments pops me out of stealth regardless of the weapon I use.

Because now affects all your party. I think is something they have coded ingame, anything that can affect anyone else than you puts you out of stealth: rapid regen (can heal other people), volatile armor (aoe dmg), lighting form (aoe dmg) and now molten weapons (group buf)...

I thought so too at first, but Vigor still does not take you out of stealth, and that's not just a buff, that's a heal. As far as I know, all damage abilities are supposed to take you out of stealth, and most healing abilities as well. Molten Armaments is neither.

Then i think is more a problem with vigor than with mo. In any case, I agree game is not consistent regarding wich skills put you out of stealth.

Kammakazi

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/238883/discuss-abilities-that-bring-you-out-of-hidden-pvp

Recremen

Kammakazi wrote: »

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/238883/discuss-abilities-that-bring-you-out-of-hidden-pvp

Interesting points, though it's clear from that list that it's not just a magicka/stamina dichotomy. Either way, would be nice to have my stealth back.

Alcast

Recremen wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert

I also noticed this, before Thieves Guild it did not take you out of stealth, it does now. Is it supposed to? more nerfs

Oh man, the nerf hammer is so real right now. I didn't want to believe it but from PTS to live it's all been true. I mean, the duration increase is nice for PvE, but taking away the heavy attack execute component completely destroyed the unique thing I was contributing to my PvP team. Now whenever there's an unkillable tank that the Nightblade can't execute they just call in a Templar to execute them instantly and from 28 meters away. Never mind silly DK who needs to charge up his finisher for a second and a half, and has to be in melee range, no less. In fact, let's just take away that thing altogether. My lamentations are endless on this point.

ye....i get 23k Jbeam crit ticks in pvp on low health targets. no sustain but who cares, i can beam ppl from 45m range LOL.
This patch really screwed over stamina so hard.