Players vs ZOS/Devs PvP Challenge

Crown · March 2016

We challenge you oh mighty devs and ZOS emplyees to PvP battles in the style of our GvG tournaments!

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler @Wrobel @ZOS_RichLambert etc.

Whatever your numbers, be they 1v1, 2v2, 4v4, 6v6, 8v8, 12v12, 16v,16 or 24v24. You tell us how many you want to field, and we'll field the same.

Come with whatever gear and sets you want, though you have to show/tell us what you're using. We will post full details of our builds in turn.

Rounds will be best of 3.

If you have toons on only one faction, please give us 2 weeks notice so that we can level up our own toons on opposite factions (if we normally play the same faction as you do).

EDIT: At the request of a moderator I've removed the paragraph making the same point as a few previous threads. I still think 2 to 1 odds would be fair ;-)

Asmael · March 2016

Numbers? 12 devs vs 1 top player MIGHT actually be balanced.

Better to make it 16 vs 1 to make sure it's fair tho.

Still, would love the idea, and not just a 1 time event.

Ghostbane · March 2016

v16 Warlock inc

OdinForge · March 2016

inb4 Blood Pact shows up.

Thelon · March 2016

Millerman34n · March 2016

100k devs do a 1v 5 and loose, I'll take em on xD

Durham · March 2016

Crown wrote: »

We challenge you oh mighty devs and ZOS emplyees to PvP battles in the style of our GvG tournaments!

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler @Wrobel @ZOS_RichLambert etc.

Whatever your numbers, be they 1v1, 2v2, 4v4, 6v6, 8v8, 12v12, 16v,16 or 24v24. You tell us how many you want to field, and we'll field the same.

Come with whatever gear and sets you want, though you have to show/tell us what you're using. We will post full details of our builds in turn.

If you use the sets and traits that we've all been telling you since PTS that "no PvPer in their right mind would ever use", we'll even give you numerical advantages of 2 to 1. Bring your Leki's resto staff with Defending, your Lightning staff of Fury, your Bow of Transmutation, your Reinforced Vicious Death, your infused Molag Kena shoulders, and lets see who wins the fights!

Rounds will be best of 3.

If you have toons on only one faction, please give us 2 weeks notice so that we can level up our own toons on opposite factions (if we normally play the same faction as you do).

They have the secrete weapon ! They will implement LAG ability and lag you out and eventually crash you ... You will lose sir !

frozywozy · March 2016

Funny how people whine about not getting all their BiS gear setup one week after the patch came out. In other mmos, it takes months to complete one full 5/5 set every pvp season. I agree that pvp vendors should sell impen gear but you shouldn't be able to gear yourself fully in one week, that's just ridiculous.

Force-Siphon · March 2016

I don't want impen I want divines/infused!!!

Humphie · March 2016

frozywozy wrote: »

Funny how people whine about not getting all their BiS gear setup one week after the patch came out. In other mmos, it takes months to complete one full 5/5 set every pvp season. I agree that pvp vendors should sell impen gear but you shouldn't be able to gear yourself fully in one week, that's just ridiculous.

See how smart he is?

Sallington · March 2016

frozywozy wrote: »

Funny how people whine about not getting all their BiS gear setup one week after the patch came out. In other mmos, it takes months to complete one full 5/5 set every pvp season. I agree that pvp vendors should sell impen gear but you shouldn't be able to gear yourself fully in one week, that's just ridiculous.

There's a difference between making gear hard to get, and putting it behind a crap RNG system.

KenaPKK · March 2016

@Crown, chances are slim that they will even see this, and if they do, you'll only degrade the good rapport and knowledgable position you've built with them through your last few posts. We understand how you feel, but I kindly suggest you take this down and keep your frustrations under control.

Zheg · March 2016

If wrobel or wheeler attend, I insist they face a team of only NB that gap close in with prox det and tether so they can see what they've turned pvp into.

Lyar09 · March 2016

Be sure to hold this event on trueflame during prime time so they can see how "pleasing" their server performance is

Lexxypwns · March 2016

Xeven wrote: »

Crown shut up already dude. How many threads are you going to make? There is vendor trash in the loot tables, always has been. Get over it.

You callin' out Gina? Really bro? You've lost your damn mind. I wish you weren't AD. I'd wreck you in infused/divines just shut you up.

Doesn't count, you're a mag sorc, infused/divines is actually good for you

Morozov · March 2016

Sallington wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Funny how people whine about not getting all their BiS gear setup one week after the patch came out. In other mmos, it takes months to complete one full 5/5 set every pvp season. I agree that pvp vendors should sell impen gear but you shouldn't be able to gear yourself fully in one week, that's just ridiculous.

There's a difference between making gear hard to get, and putting it behind a crap RNG system.

gotta agree with this one, at least in other MMO's you know what you're getting and even if it takes months to get you actually know/feel like you are getting somewhere. You also know that the items you are getting are related to PVP and are specced for it.

When will a magicka build ever use a lightning staff of fury? ever...

magicka item with stamina set on it....yeah crap RNG, but that doesn't even make sense.

Sallington · March 2016

Morozov wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Funny how people whine about not getting all their BiS gear setup one week after the patch came out. In other mmos, it takes months to complete one full 5/5 set every pvp season. I agree that pvp vendors should sell impen gear but you shouldn't be able to gear yourself fully in one week, that's just ridiculous.

There's a difference between making gear hard to get, and putting it behind a crap RNG system.

gotta agree with this one, at least in other MMO's you know what you're getting and even if it takes months to get you actually know/feel like you are getting somewhere. You also know that the items you are getting are related to PVP and are specced for it.

When will a magicka build ever use a lightning staff of fury? ever...

magicka item with stamina set on it....yeah crap RNG, but that doesn't even make sense.

Exactly. I'd even be OK with putting progressively better PvP gear behind PvP ranks. Maybe inplement a token systems, where tokens are awarded for capturing keeps, completing kill quests, etc.

Literally anything besides being 100% RNG.

Recremen · March 2016

Crown you fool! They'll bring the testing characters with all the dev buffs like what we saw during the ESO live playthroughs! It'll be a massacre!

Crown · March 2016

frozywozy wrote: »

Funny how people whine about not getting all their BiS gear setup one week after the patch came out. In other mmos, it takes months to complete one full 5/5 set every pvp season. I agree that pvp vendors should sell impen gear but you shouldn't be able to gear yourself fully in one week, that's just ridiculous.

Almost all of the people I run with have fully BiS gear equipped now - as do most of the people from the more solid DC/EP guilds. The only exception is some blue VD and Transmute jewellery. This isn't other MMOs and comparing it to them is one of the reason people are so upset about PvP.

EDIT: I'll add to the above that people who spend their time farming gold have also all bought the BiS gear from players who wanted 100k+ for each item rather than to use them. People who spent their time farming AP are outta luck.

Lava_Croft · March 2016

frozywozy wrote: »

Funny how people whine about not getting all their BiS gear setup one week after the patch came out. In other mmos, it takes months to complete one full 5/5 set every pvp season. I agree that pvp vendors should sell impen gear but you shouldn't be able to gear yourself fully in one week, that's just ridiculous.

Do you really want to start comparing ESO to other MMO's?

Really?

frozywozy · March 2016

Lava_Croft wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Funny how people whine about not getting all their BiS gear setup one week after the patch came out. In other mmos, it takes months to complete one full 5/5 set every pvp season. I agree that pvp vendors should sell impen gear but you shouldn't be able to gear yourself fully in one week, that's just ridiculous.

Do you really want to start comparing ESO to other MMO's?

Really?

Like I've already said before, I understand the fact that industries try to bring something unique on the table and stand out from the competition, but there are principles that you just can't get away from. And I think that gaining gear in a relatively fair amount of time after a patch came out is one of them.

People should be able to gain an edge regarding of their actions / devotion / skills in the first weeks / months of a new DLC and more casual players should be able to catch up before the release of the next DLC.

ZOS_MollyH · March 2016

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Lord-Stien · March 2016

500s crown say that the dev's would exploit to save face ........

Or they would employ the Forum Mod Locked thread ability ( AKA Dev Ultimate)

and 1 shot everything........

I jest ....

HoloYoitsu · March 2016

Does everyone remember the "PvP with the devs" event from 1.6 PTS? Remember how that went?

Yeah....the devs are never going to openly set foot into PvP with their player base again.

Duiwel · March 2016

I would use my non vet NB vs any VR16 NB ( you better hurry he will be VR16 this weekend and even harder to kill then )

ThatGuyCameron · March 2016

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Does everyone remember the "PvP with the devs" event from 1.6 PTS? Remember how that went?

Yeah....the devs are never going to openly set foot into PvP with their player base again.

Video? I need to see this.

HoloYoitsu · March 2016

ThatGuyCameron wrote: »

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Does everyone remember the "PvP with the devs" event from 1.6 PTS? Remember how that went?

Yeah....the devs are never going to openly set foot into PvP with their player base again.

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Does everyone remember the "PvP with the devs" event from 1.6 PTS? Remember how that went?

Yeah....the devs are never going to openly set foot into PvP with their player base again.

Video? I need to see this.

Long story short, the PTS server hard crashed every 5-10 minutes for an hour and then the devs cancelled the PvP event early. It was literally the worst lag I have ever seen in Cyrodiil.

Afterwards the official statement was that "we managed to gather enough PvP data" so there wouldn't 'need' to be further dev tests, and also that "you need to keep in mind that the PTS is less robust than the Live server."

Sallington · March 2016

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

ThatGuyCameron wrote: »

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Does everyone remember the "PvP with the devs" event from 1.6 PTS? Remember how that went?

Yeah....the devs are never going to openly set foot into PvP with their player base again.

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Does everyone remember the "PvP with the devs" event from 1.6 PTS? Remember how that went?

Yeah....the devs are never going to openly set foot into PvP with their player base again.

Video? I need to see this.

Long story short, the PTS server hard crashed every 5-10 minutes for an hour and then the devs cancelled the PvP event early. It was literally the worst lag I have ever seen in Cyrodiil.

Afterwards the official statement was that "we managed to gather enough PvP data" so there wouldn't 'need' to be further dev tests, and also that "you need to keep in mind that the PTS is less robust than the Live server."

All they needed to do was make "some minor improvements" probably and it would have been fine.

Lava_Croft · March 2016

PvP with the devs event consisted mostly out of relogging.

RDMyers65b14_ESO · March 2016

Lava_Croft wrote: »

PvP with the devs event consisted mostly out of relogging.

Yep, I remember that. It kept crashing.

ThatGuyCameron · March 2016

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

ThatGuyCameron wrote: »

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Does everyone remember the "PvP with the devs" event from 1.6 PTS? Remember how that went?

Yeah....the devs are never going to openly set foot into PvP with their player base again.

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Does everyone remember the "PvP with the devs" event from 1.6 PTS? Remember how that went?

Yeah....the devs are never going to openly set foot into PvP with their player base again.

Video? I need to see this.

Long story short, the PTS server hard crashed every 5-10 minutes for an hour and then the devs cancelled the PvP event early. It was literally the worst lag I have ever seen in Cyrodiil.

Afterwards the official statement was that "we managed to gather enough PvP data" so there wouldn't 'need' to be further dev tests, and also that "you need to keep in mind that the PTS is less robust than the Live server."

Hmph, milk drinkers.