Vendor Shoulders

Valrien

Why not have these in Divines/Impen? Please, I really want an answer behind the logic of this. I can understand hats, those people can grind...but it's literally impossible to grind for shoulders. It is incredibly stupid that you could wait weeks, months, or even years before you get the shoulder piece you want. For example, I'm hunting divines Kena shoulder. I'll grind vWGT all day for the helmet but all I can do is pray that maybe one day I'll get a shoulder piece.

Also, one again to the people who say I'm looking for a handout, YOU CANNOT GRIND A SHOULDER. Point me to where I can get one and I'll spend days grinding it because at least I know I'll get one eventually. With the current system I will probably never get the shoulder I want simply due to bad luck and an astronomically low chance to get it in the first place.

Decado

since i heard about this vendor ive been so excited to FINALLY change my infused Kena shoulders because divines just wont drop for me, doesnt matter if i run the pledge 8 times a day (which ive done a few times) but been waiting MONTHS for this to drop and still nothing!

for them to then turn up on this vendor in infused! thats just an insult and cruel, seriously look into all this RNG,

Ampnode

I believe ZOS has put it this way because it's fair. This is the drawback to being able to buy sets so easily. They'll be a crappy trait. They already offer Light, Medium, AND Heavy at the same time. This we can at least be thankful for. Imagine doing 50+ runs and getting a heavy piece WITH a crappy trait. I'm okay with the traits if they're not willing to change them. I'm still grateful no matter the trait.

NovaShadow

It's been said several times, read what ZOS have posted.

It'll always be infused.

You want a good trait, farm it.

Valrien

NovaShadow wrote: »

It's been said several times, read what ZOS have posted.

It'll always be infused.

You want a good trait, farm it.

Okay. Mind telling me the grind spot for shoulders?

@NovaShadow

strikeback1247

You can get 2 chances on 8 characters every day. You would have to spend a lot of time to farm that every day. Almost sounds like grinding

radiospam

This is one of those times ZOS really needs to listen to their player base. We want divines on small pieces. It seems so simple, right?

zyk

Is it not easy to understand how someone who enjoys open world large scale PVP may not enjoy 4 player PVE instances?

Many PVE players lack empathy on this subject because they don't want the value of their rewards for grinding to be diminished. Understood. Well, PVP players want to be rewarded for their time invested and success in PVP too.

JubJub

Does it really matter that much?

Ajaxduo

Add a vendor that sells monster shoulders so they are more accessible for PvPers by purchasing with AP, makes the shoulders Infused. Seems legit. Can we get this changed? It should be Impenetrable and Divines.

Valrien

rossvoss wrote: »

Does it really matter that much?

Yes

zyk wrote: »

Is it not easy to understand how someone who enjoys open world large scale PVP may not enjoy 4 player PVE instances?

Many PVE players lack empathy on this subject because they don't want the value of their rewards for grinding to be diminished. Understood. Well, PVP players want to be rewarded for their time invested and success in PVP too.

I'm a PvE player...I don't realy understand the first bit, but I honestly don't care about the time anyone spends grinding compared to me, as long as I have what I grinded for.

crislevin

rossvoss wrote: »

Does it really matter that much?

No for most people. Yes for a tiny fraction of people.

Tbh, most people won't even bother buying it to begin with.

strikeback1247

Do people seriously believe that if they have one piece of gear with a less than perfect trait, it will seriously impact their gameplay?

JubJub

strikeback1247 wrote: »

Do people seriously believe that if they have one piece of gear with a less than perfect trait, it will seriously impact their gameplay?

Thats why I'm confused seeing people complain about different traits etc. I tank with both well-fitted eg helm and shoulders and I do fine. As long as I have the set traits don't matter to me, guess I'm just wierd.

starkerealm

strikeback1247 wrote: »

Do people seriously believe that if they have one piece of gear with a less than perfect trait, it will seriously impact their gameplay?

You don't understand, it will reduce their damage per second by 8 points. EIGHT POINTS! How will they live with the shame?

kuro-dono

strikeback1247 wrote: »

Do people seriously believe that if they have one piece of gear with a less than perfect trait, it will seriously impact their gameplay?

yes they do> they follow some streamer hero with legendary gear with stuff perfect trait> so if they dont do exacly same they cant do the exact same job> solo alone 20-50 ppl.

Morbash

strikeback1247 wrote: »

Do people seriously believe that if they have one piece of gear with a less than perfect trait, it will seriously impact their gameplay?

Do people seriously believe that if everyone is given the option to bypass RNG and purchase one piece of gear with the perfect trait, it will seriously impact their gameplay?

Hortator Indoril Nerevar

NovaShadow wrote: »

It's been said several times, read what ZOS have posted.

It'll always be infused.

You want a good trait, farm it.

Lol what? Trolling?

Valrien wrote: »

NovaShadow wrote: »

It's been said several times, read what ZOS have posted.

It'll always be infused.

You want a good trait, farm it.

Okay. Mind telling me the grind spot for shoulders?

@NovaShadow

Exactly.

That person has to be a troll lol.

Before they reply.. I have v16 Devines all shoulders so I am not bias or complaining.

Hortator Indoril Nerevar

rossvoss wrote: »

Does it really matter that much?

strikeback1247 wrote: »

Do people seriously believe that if they have one piece of gear with a less than perfect trait, it will seriously impact their gameplay?

rossvoss wrote: »

strikeback1247 wrote: »

Do people seriously believe that if they have one piece of gear with a less than perfect trait, it will seriously impact their gameplay?

Thats why I'm confused seeing people complain about different traits etc. I tank with both well-fitted eg helm and shoulders and I do fine. As long as I have the set traits don't matter to me, guess I'm just wierd.

starkerealm wrote: »

strikeback1247 wrote: »

Do people seriously believe that if they have one piece of gear with a less than perfect trait, it will seriously impact their gameplay?

You don't understand, it will reduce their damage per second by 8 points. EIGHT POINTS! How will they live with the shame?

"If you’re incompetent, you can’t know you’re incompetent. […] the skills you need to produce a right answer are exactly the skills you need to recognize what a right answer is." - David Dunning

You wont get it. So please people don't even bother trying to explain it to them.

JubJub

Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »

rossvoss wrote: »

Does it really matter that much?

strikeback1247 wrote: »

Do people seriously believe that if they have one piece of gear with a less than perfect trait, it will seriously impact their gameplay?

rossvoss wrote: »

strikeback1247 wrote: »

Do people seriously believe that if they have one piece of gear with a less than perfect trait, it will seriously impact their gameplay?

Thats why I'm confused seeing people complain about different traits etc. I tank with both well-fitted eg helm and shoulders and I do fine. As long as I have the set traits don't matter to me, guess I'm just wierd.

starkerealm wrote: »

strikeback1247 wrote: »

Do people seriously believe that if they have one piece of gear with a less than perfect trait, it will seriously impact their gameplay?

You don't understand, it will reduce their damage per second by 8 points. EIGHT POINTS! How will they live with the shame?

"If you’re incompetent, you can’t know you’re incompetent. […] the skills you need to produce a right answer are exactly the skills you need to recognize what a right answer is." - David Dunning

You wont get it. So please people don't even bother trying to explain it to them.

Lol so that little boost a trait gives must really matter to I guess.

Valrien

rossvoss wrote: »

Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »

rossvoss wrote: »

Does it really matter that much?

strikeback1247 wrote: »

Do people seriously believe that if they have one piece of gear with a less than perfect trait, it will seriously impact their gameplay?

rossvoss wrote: »

strikeback1247 wrote: »

Do people seriously believe that if they have one piece of gear with a less than perfect trait, it will seriously impact their gameplay?

Thats why I'm confused seeing people complain about different traits etc. I tank with both well-fitted eg helm and shoulders and I do fine. As long as I have the set traits don't matter to me, guess I'm just wierd.

starkerealm wrote: »

strikeback1247 wrote: »

Do people seriously believe that if they have one piece of gear with a less than perfect trait, it will seriously impact their gameplay?

You don't understand, it will reduce their damage per second by 8 points. EIGHT POINTS! How will they live with the shame?

"If you’re incompetent, you can’t know you’re incompetent. […] the skills you need to produce a right answer are exactly the skills you need to recognize what a right answer is." - David Dunning

You wont get it. So please people don't even bother trying to explain it to them.

Lol so that little boost a trait gives must really matter to I guess.

It really does. There are people in this game who will lament over SECONDS in a Trial run

Hortator Indoril Nerevar

Still funny.

LiquidSchwartz

radiospam wrote: »

This is one of those times ZOS really needs to listen to their player base. We want divines on small pieces. It seems so simple, right?

No this is a freakin monster piece you don't deserve to get without working hard for that you get for cheap deal with the trait or don't buy it
They shouldn't sell them in the first place

Valrien

LiquidSchwartz wrote: »

radiospam wrote: »

This is one of those times ZOS really needs to listen to their player base. We want divines on small pieces. It seems so simple, right?

No this is a freakin monster piece you don't deserve to get without working hard for that you get for cheap deal with the trait or don't buy it
They shouldn't sell them in the first place

Then they should allow us to work for them.

Valrien

kuro-dono wrote: »

strikeback1247 wrote: »

Do people seriously believe that if they have one piece of gear with a less than perfect trait, it will seriously impact their gameplay?

yes they do> they follow some streamer hero with legendary gear with stuff perfect trait> so if they dont do exacly same they cant do the exact same job> solo alone 20-50 ppl.

Or perhaps we know that Infused sucks? Perhaps we want to optimize our characters? Divines is the most versatile trait that also gives the most raw benefit and to deny us at least divine shoulders if not heads and shoulders is an absolute insult to people who acatually care about doing more than 5k DPS, considering that we want to work for our gear but we can't. Instead we have to settle for *** infused or wait weeks, months, or years to get the item we want.

NovaShadow

Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »

NovaShadow wrote: »

It's been said several times, read what ZOS have posted.

It'll always be infused.

You want a good trait, farm it.

Lol what? Trolling?

Valrien wrote: »

NovaShadow wrote: »

It's been said several times, read what ZOS have posted.

It'll always be infused.

You want a good trait, farm it.

Okay. Mind telling me the grind spot for shoulders?

@NovaShadow

Exactly.

That person has to be a troll lol.

Before they reply.. I have v16 Devines all shoulders so I am not bias or complaining.

You're calling me a troll because I actually read what ZOS said about the infused trait.

I have what I want, I farmed them by doing pledges and I'm a PVPer so I'd like to see a trait other than infused but unlike most people I actually paid attention to the trait they were gonna sell.

Valrien

NovaShadow wrote: »

Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »

NovaShadow wrote: »

It's been said several times, read what ZOS have posted.

It'll always be infused.

You want a good trait, farm it.

Lol what? Trolling?

Valrien wrote: »

NovaShadow wrote: »

It's been said several times, read what ZOS have posted.

It'll always be infused.

You want a good trait, farm it.

Okay. Mind telling me the grind spot for shoulders?

@NovaShadow

Exactly.

That person has to be a troll lol.

Before they reply.. I have v16 Devines all shoulders so I am not bias or complaining.

You're calling me a troll because I actually read what ZOS said about the infused trait.

I have what I want, I farmed them by doing pledges and I'm a PVPer so I'd like to see a trait other than infused but unlike most people I actually paid attention to the trait they were gonna sell.

We all knew that it was going to be Infused. Doesn't mean we agreed with it.

Dyride

Impen makes a huge difference in PVP. Divines is by and large the most versatile trait.

Megalex1

Does anyone have a quote where ZOS claims it'll only be infused??? I need confirmation

Valrien

Megalex1 wrote: »

Does anyone have a quote where ZOS claims it'll only be infused??? I need confirmation

I know they said it, but I'm unable to find a source for it. What I do know is that the past 2 weeks and every week of the PTS had only Infused monster sets.

NovaShadow

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