How Troves SHOULD have worked.

Phinix1

• Leave the drop rates as they were. The current rate is too low and pointless.
• Make clicking them add a box to your inventory which must be opened there, preventing leaving items in Troves.
• Make gear gained from Troves BoP preventing incentive to farm.

These three simple things and they could have kept a cool new feature that makes exploration fun and rewarding to the character doing it, without granting an OP gold return that would lead to botting/farming and without having to nerf that cool new feature into pointlessness days after release.

ZOS, please consider it!

Volkodav

I dont want to see any more BoP. Ever.
I agree with the other two things you mention though.

Phinix1

Volkodav wrote: »

I dont want to see any more BoP. Ever.
I agree with the other two things you mention though.

For something that requires real effort like trials, getting BOE gear to sell would be a nice reimbursement for the time. But for something like random Troves in the world you just stumble on, getting a 25k+ gold bonus selling v16 gear drops is a bit too strong an incentive to bot, which is why people were.

For something like troves that require no effort at all, they SHOULD be BoP, just like the daily recompense from the last DLC.

Lysette

Phinix1 wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

I dont want to see any more BoP. Ever.
I agree with the other two things you mention though.

For something that requires real effort like trials, getting BOE gear to sell would be a nice reimbursement for the time. But for something like random Troves in the world you just stumble on, getting a 25k+ gold bonus selling v16 gear drops is a bit too strong an incentive to bot, which is why people were.

For something like troves that require no effort at all, they SHOULD be BoP, just like the daily recompense from the last DLC.

I figure you have been a game master in pen&paper or something like that - you think like one - I like it.

Volkodav

Phinix1 wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

I dont want to see any more BoP. Ever.
I agree with the other two things you mention though.

For something that requires real effort like trials, getting BOE gear to sell would be a nice reimbursement for the time. But for something like random Troves in the world you just stumble on, getting a 25k+ gold bonus selling v16 gear drops is a bit too strong an incentive to bot, which is why people were.

For something like troves that require no effort at all, they SHOULD be BoP, just like the daily recompense from the last DLC.

That is your opinion,and I respect it.However,I stand on my words.I hate BoP. If people get items,they should have the option to do with it what they want.This game isnt for one person to dictate.
Remember,you are merely speaking your own thoughts,as am I.

Phinix1

Of course. I am just thinking in terms of the economy and what is good for everyone though.

Something like a trial would be extremely hard if not impossible to bot. Therefor, getting a fairly valuable BOE reward would be more acceptable, because it would be almost certain you had to at least work for it.

However, because Troves can be easily botted (they still randomly spawn in a set or per-ordained locations), getting extremely valuable gear you could actually sell to others would be a very strong incentive to set up that robot gold factory.

audrieltheelf

I actually wouldn't mind BoP on the sets from the troves. They're very niche sets and are quickly becoming worthless. I think ZoS just wanted sets that said "Look, we made some stuff v16 for ya ... even though it's useless."

But hey at least they promoted dungeon boss spawn camping by increasing drop rates on the outlaw motifs (sarcasm, in case you missed it)

Volkodav

Phinix1 wrote: »

Of course. I am just thinking in terms of the economy and what is good for everyone though.

Something like a trial would be extremely hard if not impossible to bot. Therefor, getting a fairly valuable BOE reward would be more acceptable, because it would be almost certain you had to at least work for it.

However, because Troves can be easily botted (they still randomly spawn in a set or per-ordained locations), getting extremely valuable gear you could actually sell to others would be a very strong incentive to set up that robot gold factory.

Trying to control the economy of the game will just frustrate you honestly.Let it be.Troves should have stayed as they were because they provided a lot of people gear that they didnt have access to at lower levels.It just looked good,and scaled down to their levels.I took my level 27 there,got some gear,and it didnt have high e nd statss at all.People are already angry a bout BoP,so when they come here soon,some may not agree with you.

Lysette

Volkodav wrote: »

Phinix1 wrote: »

Of course. I am just thinking in terms of the economy and what is good for everyone though.

Something like a trial would be extremely hard if not impossible to bot. Therefor, getting a fairly valuable BOE reward would be more acceptable, because it would be almost certain you had to at least work for it.

However, because Troves can be easily botted (they still randomly spawn in a set or per-ordained locations), getting extremely valuable gear you could actually sell to others would be a very strong incentive to set up that robot gold factory.

Trying to control the economy of the game will just frustrate you honestly.Let it be.Troves should have stayed as they were because they provided a lot of people gear that they didnt have access to at lower levels.It just looked good,and scaled down to their levels.I took my level 27 there,got some gear,and it didnt have high e nd statss at all.People are already angry a bout BoP,so when they come here soon,some may not agree with you.

That''s true, the gear is scaled to level and not worth a lot at lower levels - and niche oriented to stealth game play. I like it nevertheless - the night mother's embrace set for example - 5 pieces reduce detection range by 2m - that is not bad given that racial passives give at most 3m - so this gear is in this context nearly as good as a racial sneak bonus. But other than that, it is not better than self-crafted gear at that level.

Volkodav

Lysette wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Phinix1 wrote: »

Of course. I am just thinking in terms of the economy and what is good for everyone though.

Something like a trial would be extremely hard if not impossible to bot. Therefor, getting a fairly valuable BOE reward would be more acceptable, because it would be almost certain you had to at least work for it.

However, because Troves can be easily botted (they still randomly spawn in a set or per-ordained locations), getting extremely valuable gear you could actually sell to others would be a very strong incentive to set up that robot gold factory.

Trying to control the economy of the game will just frustrate you honestly.Let it be.Troves should have stayed as they were because they provided a lot of people gear that they didnt have access to at lower levels.It just looked good,and scaled down to their levels.I took my level 27 there,got some gear,and it didnt have high e nd statss at all.People are already angry a bout BoP,so when they come here soon,some may not agree with you.

That''s true, the gear is scaled to level and not worth a lot at lower levels - and niche oriented to stealth game play. I like it nevertheless - the night mother's embrace set for example - 5 pieces reduce detection range by 2m - that is not bad given that racial passives give at most 3m - so this gear is in this context nearly as good as a racial sneak bonus. But other than that, it is not better than self-crafted gear at that level.

I like that set as well and even got all the weapons.I also got the Darkside and Shadow Dancer sets too from the troves.The stats dont amount to much so there shouldnt be a problem for anyone,but they help my low level character have a nice look.

Miszou

They spawned too quickly and in the same place. Obviously, this needed to be adjusted. Did they possibly adjust it too far in the opposite direction? Maybe.... but it's not as if we'll never get another update in the future if the balance needs to be adjusted again...

That said, the troves need to spawn somewhat often, as they are a gentle reminder (or poke in the eye, whatever) to people that don't own the DLC that they are missing out on free loot.

Also, you should be required to pick a (advanced) lock to open them. We get enough lockpicks now, so why not use them for something and make it feel as though you're actually thieving?

Lysette

Volkodav wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Phinix1 wrote: »

Of course. I am just thinking in terms of the economy and what is good for everyone though.

Something like a trial would be extremely hard if not impossible to bot. Therefor, getting a fairly valuable BOE reward would be more acceptable, because it would be almost certain you had to at least work for it.

However, because Troves can be easily botted (they still randomly spawn in a set or per-ordained locations), getting extremely valuable gear you could actually sell to others would be a very strong incentive to set up that robot gold factory.

Trying to control the economy of the game will just frustrate you honestly.Let it be.Troves should have stayed as they were because they provided a lot of people gear that they didnt have access to at lower levels.It just looked good,and scaled down to their levels.I took my level 27 there,got some gear,and it didnt have high e nd statss at all.People are already angry a bout BoP,so when they come here soon,some may not agree with you.

That''s true, the gear is scaled to level and not worth a lot at lower levels - and niche oriented to stealth game play. I like it nevertheless - the night mother's embrace set for example - 5 pieces reduce detection range by 2m - that is not bad given that racial passives give at most 3m - so this gear is in this context nearly as good as a racial sneak bonus. But other than that, it is not better than self-crafted gear at that level.

I like that set as well and even got all the weapons.I also got the Darkside and Shadow Dancer sets too from the troves.The stats dont amount to much so there shouldnt be a problem for anyone,but they help my low level character have a nice look.

It is just a bit sad, that we will outgrow it pretty fast and will have to get it again from the troves to adjust to the new level. So basically if we want to keep these sets updated, these troves will not get useless anytime soon for us low level players.

Lysette

Miszou wrote: »

They spawned too quickly and in the same place. Obviously, this needed to be adjusted. Did they possibly adjust it too far in the opposite direction? Maybe.... but it's not as if we'll never get another update in the future if the balance needs to be adjusted again...

That said, the troves need to spawn somewhat often, as they are a gentle reminder (or poke in the eye, whatever) to people that don't own the DLC that they are missing out on free loot.

Also, you should be required to pick a (advanced) lock to open them. We get enough lockpicks now, so why not use them for something and make it feel as though you're actually thieving?

that was what I kept asking me as well - why the heck do we get so many lock picks when there are no locks to píck

Well, a simple lock is good enough - for people with higher pings the lock pick mechanic is not the easiest task to do, because they have to "look into the future" in relation to what they see, or they will release too late. The higher the ping rate, the more difficult it is to unlock such a lock.

Or maybe it isn't - I am not so sure now, when I think about it, the mini-game might be purely client-side - but then again, it could be hacked - so I am not certain about this.

Mojmir

too late, nerf implemented. and we all know how much they reverse things.

Volkodav

Lysette wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Phinix1 wrote: »

Of course. I am just thinking in terms of the economy and what is good for everyone though.

Something like a trial would be extremely hard if not impossible to bot. Therefor, getting a fairly valuable BOE reward would be more acceptable, because it would be almost certain you had to at least work for it.

However, because Troves can be easily botted (they still randomly spawn in a set or per-ordained locations), getting extremely valuable gear you could actually sell to others would be a very strong incentive to set up that robot gold factory.

Trying to control the economy of the game will just frustrate you honestly.Let it be.Troves should have stayed as they were because they provided a lot of people gear that they didnt have access to at lower levels.It just looked good,and scaled down to their levels.I took my level 27 there,got some gear,and it didnt have high e nd statss at all.People are already angry a bout BoP,so when they come here soon,some may not agree with you.

That''s true, the gear is scaled to level and not worth a lot at lower levels - and niche oriented to stealth game play. I like it nevertheless - the night mother's embrace set for example - 5 pieces reduce detection range by 2m - that is not bad given that racial passives give at most 3m - so this gear is in this context nearly as good as a racial sneak bonus. But other than that, it is not better than self-crafted gear at that level.

I like that set as well and even got all the weapons.I also got the Darkside and Shadow Dancer sets too from the troves.The stats dont amount to much so there shouldnt be a problem for anyone,but they help my low level character have a nice look.

It is just a bit sad, that we will outgrow it pretty fast and will have to get it again from the troves to adjust to the new level. So basically if we want to keep these sets updated, these troves will not get useless anytime soon for us low level players.

There just arent any around anymore though.I have only gotten two in the last two days.Also,since the trove nerf,I have seen a lot less people in Hew's Bane.Could be just a coincidence though.

Thevampirenight

Volkodav wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Phinix1 wrote: »

Of course. I am just thinking in terms of the economy and what is good for everyone though.

Something like a trial would be extremely hard if not impossible to bot. Therefor, getting a fairly valuable BOE reward would be more acceptable, because it would be almost certain you had to at least work for it.

However, because Troves can be easily botted (they still randomly spawn in a set or per-ordained locations), getting extremely valuable gear you could actually sell to others would be a very strong incentive to set up that robot gold factory.

Trying to control the economy of the game will just frustrate you honestly.Let it be.Troves should have stayed as they were because they provided a lot of people gear that they didnt have access to at lower levels.It just looked good,and scaled down to their levels.I took my level 27 there,got some gear,and it didnt have high e nd statss at all.People are already angry a bout BoP,so when they come here soon,some may not agree with you.

That''s true, the gear is scaled to level and not worth a lot at lower levels - and niche oriented to stealth game play. I like it nevertheless - the night mother's embrace set for example - 5 pieces reduce detection range by 2m - that is not bad given that racial passives give at most 3m - so this gear is in this context nearly as good as a racial sneak bonus. But other than that, it is not better than self-crafted gear at that level.

I like that set as well and even got all the weapons.I also got the Darkside and Shadow Dancer sets too from the troves.The stats dont amount to much so there shouldnt be a problem for anyone,but they help my low level character have a nice look.

It is just a bit sad, that we will outgrow it pretty fast and will have to get it again from the troves to adjust to the new level. So basically if we want to keep these sets updated, these troves will not get useless anytime soon for us low level players.

There just arent any around anymore though.I have only gotten two in the last two days.Also,since the trove nerf,I have seen a lot less people in Hew's Bane.Could be just a coincidence though.

If you look around you can find them. If your not basically really looking for them.

Volkodav

Thevampirenight wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Phinix1 wrote: »

Of course. I am just thinking in terms of the economy and what is good for everyone though.

Something like a trial would be extremely hard if not impossible to bot. Therefor, getting a fairly valuable BOE reward would be more acceptable, because it would be almost certain you had to at least work for it.

However, because Troves can be easily botted (they still randomly spawn in a set or per-ordained locations), getting extremely valuable gear you could actually sell to others would be a very strong incentive to set up that robot gold factory.

Trying to control the economy of the game will just frustrate you honestly.Let it be.Troves should have stayed as they were because they provided a lot of people gear that they didnt have access to at lower levels.It just looked good,and scaled down to their levels.I took my level 27 there,got some gear,and it didnt have high e nd statss at all.People are already angry a bout BoP,so when they come here soon,some may not agree with you.

That''s true, the gear is scaled to level and not worth a lot at lower levels - and niche oriented to stealth game play. I like it nevertheless - the night mother's embrace set for example - 5 pieces reduce detection range by 2m - that is not bad given that racial passives give at most 3m - so this gear is in this context nearly as good as a racial sneak bonus. But other than that, it is not better than self-crafted gear at that level.

I like that set as well and even got all the weapons.I also got the Darkside and Shadow Dancer sets too from the troves.The stats dont amount to much so there shouldnt be a problem for anyone,but they help my low level character have a nice look.

It is just a bit sad, that we will outgrow it pretty fast and will have to get it again from the troves to adjust to the new level. So basically if we want to keep these sets updated, these troves will not get useless anytime soon for us low level players.

There just arent any around anymore though.I have only gotten two in the last two days.Also,since the trove nerf,I have seen a lot less people in Hew's Bane.Could be just a coincidence though.

If you look around you can find them. If your not basically really looking for them.

I think they spawn so seldom now that other people have already gotten to them.I'm going to try after midnight and see if i can get one or two. I want those Counterfeit Leniency scripts. XD

lihentian

they should just add a timer to the passive.. you can only open one every five minutes..

Lysette

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Volkodav wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Phinix1 wrote: »

Of course. I am just thinking in terms of the economy and what is good for everyone though.

Something like a trial would be extremely hard if not impossible to bot. Therefor, getting a fairly valuable BOE reward would be more acceptable, because it would be almost certain you had to at least work for it.

However, because Troves can be easily botted (they still randomly spawn in a set or per-ordained locations), getting extremely valuable gear you could actually sell to others would be a very strong incentive to set up that robot gold factory.

Trying to control the economy of the game will just frustrate you honestly.Let it be.Troves should have stayed as they were because they provided a lot of people gear that they didnt have access to at lower levels.It just looked good,and scaled down to their levels.I took my level 27 there,got some gear,and it didnt have high e nd statss at all.People are already angry a bout BoP,so when they come here soon,some may not agree with you.

That''s true, the gear is scaled to level and not worth a lot at lower levels - and niche oriented to stealth game play. I like it nevertheless - the night mother's embrace set for example - 5 pieces reduce detection range by 2m - that is not bad given that racial passives give at most 3m - so this gear is in this context nearly as good as a racial sneak bonus. But other than that, it is not better than self-crafted gear at that level.

I like that set as well and even got all the weapons.I also got the Darkside and Shadow Dancer sets too from the troves.The stats dont amount to much so there shouldnt be a problem for anyone,but they help my low level character have a nice look.

It is just a bit sad, that we will outgrow it pretty fast and will have to get it again from the troves to adjust to the new level. So basically if we want to keep these sets updated, these troves will not get useless anytime soon for us low level players.

There just arent any around anymore though.I have only gotten two in the last two days.Also,since the trove nerf,I have seen a lot less people in Hew's Bane.Could be just a coincidence though.

Well, I was getting 5 troves this morning wihin about 20 minutes in bleakrock island (newbie zone, EP - on EU server) - but that was early morning in europe (like 4:30 GMT), when pretty much all are in bed on a workday. Respawn rate seems to be good to me, at least when not many are around - at prime time all troves near crowded areas will be looted and not to be seen.

Edit: just try newbie zones, best those starter islands - mostly newbies there, who have no idea about those troves and they do not have the DLC and cannot loot them - so better chances there.

Volkodav

Lysette wrote: »

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Volkodav wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Phinix1 wrote: »

Of course. I am just thinking in terms of the economy and what is good for everyone though.

Something like a trial would be extremely hard if not impossible to bot. Therefor, getting a fairly valuable BOE reward would be more acceptable, because it would be almost certain you had to at least work for it.

However, because Troves can be easily botted (they still randomly spawn in a set or per-ordained locations), getting extremely valuable gear you could actually sell to others would be a very strong incentive to set up that robot gold factory.

Trying to control the economy of the game will just frustrate you honestly.Let it be.Troves should have stayed as they were because they provided a lot of people gear that they didnt have access to at lower levels.It just looked good,and scaled down to their levels.I took my level 27 there,got some gear,and it didnt have high e nd statss at all.People are already angry a bout BoP,so when they come here soon,some may not agree with you.

That''s true, the gear is scaled to level and not worth a lot at lower levels - and niche oriented to stealth game play. I like it nevertheless - the night mother's embrace set for example - 5 pieces reduce detection range by 2m - that is not bad given that racial passives give at most 3m - so this gear is in this context nearly as good as a racial sneak bonus. But other than that, it is not better than self-crafted gear at that level.

I like that set as well and even got all the weapons.I also got the Darkside and Shadow Dancer sets too from the troves.The stats dont amount to much so there shouldnt be a problem for anyone,but they help my low level character have a nice look.

It is just a bit sad, that we will outgrow it pretty fast and will have to get it again from the troves to adjust to the new level. So basically if we want to keep these sets updated, these troves will not get useless anytime soon for us low level players.

There just arent any around anymore though.I have only gotten two in the last two days.Also,since the trove nerf,I have seen a lot less people in Hew's Bane.Could be just a coincidence though.

Well, I was getting 5 troves this morning wihin about 20 minutes in bleakrock island (newbie zone, EP - on EU server) - but that was early morning in europe (like 4:30 GMT), when pretty much all are in bed on a workday. Respawn rate seems to be good to me, at least when not many are around - at prime time all troves near crowded areas will be looted and not to be seen.

Edit: just try newbie zones, best those starter islands - mostly newbies there, who have no idea about those troves and they do not have the DLC and cannot loot them - so better chances there.

I love Bleakrock Island! I should go over to Khenarthi's Roost,ADs newbie place.Thanks for the tip! It isnt gear I am after,it's those Lenience scripts!!! I'm addicted.
I wish they would sell those in the crown store.It would hurt the game or anything,cos you only get them from the troves.

Lysette

Volkodav wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

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Volkodav wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Phinix1 wrote: »

Of course. I am just thinking in terms of the economy and what is good for everyone though.

Something like a trial would be extremely hard if not impossible to bot. Therefor, getting a fairly valuable BOE reward would be more acceptable, because it would be almost certain you had to at least work for it.

However, because Troves can be easily botted (they still randomly spawn in a set or per-ordained locations), getting extremely valuable gear you could actually sell to others would be a very strong incentive to set up that robot gold factory.

Trying to control the economy of the game will just frustrate you honestly.Let it be.Troves should have stayed as they were because they provided a lot of people gear that they didnt have access to at lower levels.It just looked good,and scaled down to their levels.I took my level 27 there,got some gear,and it didnt have high e nd statss at all.People are already angry a bout BoP,so when they come here soon,some may not agree with you.

That''s true, the gear is scaled to level and not worth a lot at lower levels - and niche oriented to stealth game play. I like it nevertheless - the night mother's embrace set for example - 5 pieces reduce detection range by 2m - that is not bad given that racial passives give at most 3m - so this gear is in this context nearly as good as a racial sneak bonus. But other than that, it is not better than self-crafted gear at that level.

I like that set as well and even got all the weapons.I also got the Darkside and Shadow Dancer sets too from the troves.The stats dont amount to much so there shouldnt be a problem for anyone,but they help my low level character have a nice look.

It is just a bit sad, that we will outgrow it pretty fast and will have to get it again from the troves to adjust to the new level. So basically if we want to keep these sets updated, these troves will not get useless anytime soon for us low level players.

There just arent any around anymore though.I have only gotten two in the last two days.Also,since the trove nerf,I have seen a lot less people in Hew's Bane.Could be just a coincidence though.

Well, I was getting 5 troves this morning wihin about 20 minutes in bleakrock island (newbie zone, EP - on EU server) - but that was early morning in europe (like 4:30 GMT), when pretty much all are in bed on a workday. Respawn rate seems to be good to me, at least when not many are around - at prime time all troves near crowded areas will be looted and not to be seen.

Edit: just try newbie zones, best those starter islands - mostly newbies there, who have no idea about those troves and they do not have the DLC and cannot loot them - so better chances there.

I love Bleakrock Island! I should go over to Khenarthi's Roost,ADs newbie place.Thanks for the tip! It isnt gear I am after,it's those Lenience scripts!!! I'm addicted.
I wish they would sell those in the crown store.It would hurt the game or anything,cos you only get them from the troves.

What are those, I have not found any of those yet? - scripts I mean.

eagles9595b16_ESO

Well I do think that the respawn speed/rate is way too slow now.

Dunno if it's what they initially wanted but it became so rare to find one that it's pretty much useless to even try to find any.

If in a location you can have 4 or 5 spot, there should always be at least 2 up...

With my alt lvl 44/45 I was in an area nearly empty and I couldn't find any yesterday night. Not a single one.
While the day before I could find at least 4 or 5...
I'm wondering how people can find any in an area full of players...

I don't know what the Dev really want reparding the Troves, but I prefered how they were before the patch, at least we could all find some.
Right now it's just like they removed them.

Luvtantius_Micocia

Lysette wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

I love Bleakrock Island! I should go over to Khenarthi's Roost,ADs newbie place.Thanks for the tip! It isnt gear I am after,it's those Lenience scripts!!! I'm addicted.
I wish they would sell those in the crown store.It would hurt the game or anything,cos you only get them from the troves.

What are those, I have not found any of those yet? - scripts I mean.

I think Volkodav mean the "Leniency Edict" and the "Counterfeit Pardon Edict" that remove a sum of gold from your bounty and also clear down some or all heat.

eagles9595b16_ESO

Secondly, I wish they would rather fixe the bug we all experiencing now.

Opening a torve force you out of stealth and you get a bounty.

So good luch to try to open any in a town with any npc and guards running around

Lysette

Luvtantius_Micocia wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

I love Bleakrock Island! I should go over to Khenarthi's Roost,ADs newbie place.Thanks for the tip! It isnt gear I am after,it's those Lenience scripts!!! I'm addicted.
I wish they would sell those in the crown store.It would hurt the game or anything,cos you only get them from the troves.

What are those, I have not found any of those yet? - scripts I mean.

I think Volkodav mean the "Leniency Edict" and the "Counterfeit Pardon Edict" that remove a sum of gold from your bounty and also clear down some or all heat.

Ah I see, I found a couple of those counterfeit pardon edicts, pretty helpful.

Lysette

eagles9595b16_ESO wrote: »

Secondly, I wish they would rather fixe the bug we all experiencing now.

Opening a torve force you out of stealth and you get a bounty.

So good luch to try to open any in a town with any npc and guards running around

Yeah, I got bounty in Bleakrock Island at the pier - carefully investigated how the guard there patrols and timed it well - but just when I opened the trove, one of the fisher-NPCs started moving and saw me - I did not think those would move around as well, but one of them does sometimes. So next time I will observe more carefully before I will actually open the trove.

Karacule_Fairystar

I think the rates of troves is like a rate for you finding a perfect trait monsterhelm drops lol

Lysette

Karacule_Fairystar wrote: »

I think the rates of troves is like a rate for you finding a perfect trait monsterhelm drops lol

I don't think so - I know 5 locations directly near the harbor town on bleakrock islands - all in about maybe a quarter mile range from each other - and I got them within 20 minutes, but I did some bank account management as well in the meantime, given that it was 4:30 GMT on a european server, so most are in bed at that time.

Lysette

But I have a theory - if the amount of troves in a region, which are active at the same time is a fixed number, it could happen, that with high population load those troves "gather" in remote locations, where rarely someone gets to - so at prime time I will most likely not look for them and if then in remote locations, but I think best time is in the early morning, just about 2-3 hours before many are getting ready for work - and just do that on workday mornings. I am an hour ahead of central european time currently, so it is not a drain for me to do that - just before I head out to the office myself.

eagles9595b16_ESO

I just made a test.. I went to The Rift area, I know approximatly 15/20 spots.

Took me more or less 25/30 mi,utes to cover all of them, running away from mobs, looking for possible new spots.
I did cross any other player so I luck was high.. I thought.

I found 3 troves... compare to before it's like they removed nearly 80% of them.
I definitly think they went too far to the opposite way.

You can easily guess your chance to find any during when all people are playing.

Finding troves in the middle of the night (after 2h00am and before 8h00am) is not a reference... I suppose that the initial Dev goal was not to only allow IRL vampire to find any.

have fun

Lysette

eagles9595b16_ESO wrote: »

I just made a test.. I went to The Rift area, I know approximatly 15/20 spots.

Took me more or less 25/30 mi,utes to cover all of them, running away from mobs, looking for possible new spots.
I did cross any other player so I luck was high.. I thought.

I found 3 troves... compare to before it's like they removed nearly 80% of them.
I definitly think they went too far to the opposite way.

You can easily guess your chance to find any during when all people are playing.

Finding troves in the middle of the night (after 2h00am and before 8h00am) is not a reference... I suppose that the initial Dev goal was not to only allow IRL vampire to find any.

have fun

I think you are relatively spot on with your testing - someone on the forums said in a list of many troves he is moving to, he finds in about ever 6-7th location a trove - this is roughly 15-17% - yours is 20% - so it might be between 15 and 20%. On the other side, do you think there are 5 different spots that near to each other to form a "random" group, where one of those locations is selected?

Edit: IRL vampire is neat - well, I often do some office work at night, no one is bothering me then, no phone, no interruption - good time to work for me actually.