Dark Brotherhood or a HUGE bug fix update?

Mady

Bug/Lag Fixes

hrothbern wrote: »

that the highest boss of ZOS should pick up the poll as a signal to increase the "bug-fix" budget of ZOS.

Exactly here is the problem. It's not the devs, but their bosses.

Tdroid

Neither. Many small bugfixes and general improvements and balance patches that does implement only a few features at a time so that they can ensure that the changes work as intended before adding more.

Big "fix", balance and performance and bugs, patches often end in unintended problems, as you can't see them coming.

Mady

Bug/Lag Fixes

I want to refer to this thread:

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/251466/compilation-of-tg-bugs-in-pvp-current-bug-counter-51-ginas-replies-added/p1

I think there's one thing the devs need. That's time!
Well.... Let's say two. More colleagues

Turelus

Dark Brotherhood

Dark Brotherhood first, then bug fixes.

They're going to continue working on the fixes while the final parts of DB are being built and some are probably already being set up for the DB release. I would say release DB then work on a larger patch to address what can't be fixed by then.

Maybe three months of monthly bug fix releases rather than whatever is scheduled for after DB.

Also this is never going to happen any way, I have only once seen an MMO company do a 180 regarding content release and focus on bug fixes and that was CCP/EVE Online when they lost a few thousand subs in a month after Incarna was released.

mtwiggz

Bug/Lag Fixes

Bug/lag fixes! Only if they also remove vet levels. Otherwise I may literally cry. Tears. Real tears.

Mady

Bug/Lag Fixes

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Would like to know if ZOS actually care about such threads. I think the majority of the players would support the devs, if DB would get delayed.

So why not really think about it?

Lightninvash

Dark Brotherhood

Mady wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

Mady wrote: »

NinjaApacHe wrote: »

What the hell is one thing opposed to the other? This DLC just came out give them some days to fix bugs... Omg| Damned spoiled brats ruin everything always.

Right, this DLC came out without fixing the majority of issues AND causing new ones.

so what you are saying is you can write the code better? without any fixes or bugs happening in an mmo with the complexity of the coding needed to run it? if not I would say don't judge the devs because bugs happen when it goes live. the bugs may not be going on in the controlled environment of the testing phase. Now when it goes live everyone has different methods of doing everything or combos that lead into finding the bugs. then the devs have to go in figure out why it is doing it then find a way to fix it without it messing up another part of the game.

but if that sounds easy I say try looking up how to do this stuff and you will find out it isn't easy especially when Zos is still new to making an mmo and most likely doesn't have an absurdly large staff like some other mmos do.

just my .02 about this

Actually this thread is not here to bash against the devs, but to show them, that we can wait for content, if the game runs properly. Add more stuff to the crown store. People will buy it, so ZOS still gets money.

I never judged the devs, because bugs are in this game, but because they don't take their time to fix everything.

ahh my mistake in reading then. I read it as a bash more than anything just normally people do bash and that's what I think every time I see it is all

EDIT: late reply but just popped up for me to see lol

WalkingLegacy

LOL for paying them more money to fix what they should be fixing anyways.

Dumb consumerism or desperate or worse, both!

NovaMarx

Dark Brotherhood

I continue to be one of the few (it seems) who isn't constantly affected by bugs For this reason, give me more content please

Didaco

Bug/Lag Fixes

Let's give ZOS the benefit of the doubt and take as a given fact that if they have to deliver game content periodically they can't dedicate themselves enough at bug fixes: I choose HUGE bug fix all night long.

nimander99 wrote: »

Who says we can't have both?

Templars.

Mumyo

BOTH SINCE THEY OWE US BOTH!

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

Bug/Lag Fixes

NinjaApacHe wrote: »

What the hell is one thing opposed to the other? This DLC just came out give them some days to fix bugs... Omg| Damned spoiled brats ruin everything always.

Spoiled brats? I'm an grown a** man that pays a mortgage and used my money to pay for something so please excuse me for wanting it to work. I know paying money and wanting to get a working product or service so spoiled.

How dare I want what I paid for expecting game experts to code to correctly.

charley222

Bug/Lag Fixes

fix and balance badly plz

altemriel

Bug/Lag Fixes

Mady wrote: »

There you go!
Maybe ZOS should delay DB ( + probably new bugs). We all want this game to be successful and maybe we can wait for content....

major bugs fixed!

Mady

Bug/Lag Fixes

NovaMarx wrote: »

I continue to be one of the few (it seems) who isn't constantly affected by bugs For this reason, give me more content please

You don't want your mates to run the game without problems? :'(

Samsayia

Bug/Lag Fixes

Fixes.

I'll be entertained with the current DLC for awhile to come. No need to bring out more DLC for the moment, just get this game fixed and in shape before tacting on more stuff that has to get fixed. Still have bad lag issues that are creeping their way out of gank city.

Tankqull wrote: »

neither they should start incremental patches to fix their **** even if that means a significant downtime once per week...

If that's what it took, so long as they give people a good heads up (like two weeks heads up on such a long maintenance downtime) I would put up with it. Though if they do go down for that long I would like to see a free generic/NPC outfit or two released in the collectibles as a present.

Hand_Bacon

Bug/Lag Fixes

reasons

Asherons_Call

Bug/Lag Fixes

As much as I'd like a constant stream of new content- the base game functionality is more important.

If they took a page from Asherons call's playbook they would do one small patch per month that added a couple of new pieces of gear, a new mob or two, and the rest bug fixes and improvements. These small monthly patches were married with large quarterly patches that would add new dungeons, skills, and change the overworld map (a town getting destroyed or rebuilt). This was an amazing system that kept the bugs to a minimum and gave players a bit of new content constantly. They did this for over a decade so you can imagine the amount of content it has now

Septimus_Magna

Bug/Lag Fixes

At this point I would settle for a couple major bug fixes each patch without breaking anything else.

Besides that they can release as much PVE content as they like, just dont break more pvp mechanics please..

Bars

Bug/Lag Fixes

lol I bet we get the other one lmao

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

Bug/Lag Fixes

NovaMarx wrote: »

I continue to be one of the few (it seems) who isn't constantly affected by bugs For this reason, give me more content please

This is me on my Templar Toppling Charge had never bugged once for me.

Phinix1

Bug/Lag Fixes

I almost said Dark Brotherhood, just because I was selfishly wishing it would be when they swing the never-ending yo-yo of unbalance back to stamina since they sort of wrecked my new stamblade character's dreams this patch, which was kind of the whole reason I bought the TG DLC.

But then I realized they released this DLC with apparently no testing on essential core engine components like sound and video and have pink textures and sound stuttering on top of the normal post-patch bugs, exploits, and imbalance, and I realize that I am just not looking forward to another ZOS content DLC.

I would rather have a stale game that finally works reliably than new bugged content.

NovaMarx

Dark Brotherhood

Mady wrote: »

NovaMarx wrote: »

I continue to be one of the few (it seems) who isn't constantly affected by bugs For this reason, give me more content please

You don't want your mates to run the game without problems? :'(

Of course I do! *pats head reassuringly* But the selfish side of me says "Gimme more stuffs!!!"

TheHsN

Bug/Lag Fixes

I think ZOS DEV People should give a much thought about this topic realy realy realy much.. They should see and respect what THEIR players realy want...

Game is already very very very good to play it has perfect contents BUT it is not playeble:(.... cuz of many issues biggest ones are Bugs AND Lags...

they need to spend their biggest part of buggets not to crate new contents but to fix which alrady they have...

BlackEar

Dark Brotherhood

Let us assume they would actually be able to fix some bugs by delaying..

What would you think would happen when they release a whole new DLC.
I'll tell you - more bugs. Old bugs. New bugs.
All you do is dousing the flame for a while.

olsborg

Bug/Lag Fixes

My morale in this game is shattered by bugs and unbalance and LAGG. It doesnt really get much better with each update either, and the fact that all these updates are all centered around pve...meh, dunno...its sad. If DB DLC doesnt breathe some fresh air into pvp, im leaving the game.

moesmaker

Missing the option to choose: Both

Making a new DLC involves artwork, quest design, voice acting and what have you. People doing this usually do not iron out technical issues in software.

So: Both

Palidon

Bug/Lag Fixes

ZOS has had two years to fix their pathetic performance issues and have done nothing. This game is going down hill in a hand basket. If you are hoping for a complete hardware overhaul by ZOS which is needed at this point, you might as well just go play something else. That will never happen.

Lysette

Dark Brotherhood

DB - because I have no faith into that more time would enhance their ability to fix things. It would most likely still be trial and error. Will they test more?- Guess not, such blatant bugs like in the new client should not happen with some quality assurance in place, but they happened, and not just one, but a bunch of it - pretty straight forward things, which they could have found, if they just tested that client for a couple of minutes at least. So no, I have no faith into that more time would change anything.

ub17_ESO

Bug/Lag Fixes

people were asking for this before upper craglorn was released. I agree though, I would much prefer a focused effort to correct bugs and work toward balance instead of new content.

ZOS please listen to the community on this one...obviously people enjoy the game, but after time the constant bugs and wild balance swings wear on people. Hold up on the new stuff, catch your breath, and finish what's on your plate before adding more to the daunting pile.