The lag is still unbearable and we feel very heartbroken

_adhyffbjjjf12

_adhyffbjjjf12 wrote: »

As i said it was the need to move the calculations onto the server side. as any good project team will know if you have a highly technical problem that is solvable but you don't have the skills in house then you hire a specialist.

Occums razor, they cant fix it, they spent a year trying, its out of their control - most likely the core engine.

or

Every single developer they have hired is incapable of fixing the problems despite it clearly losing the company money and despite the fact the game outwith the lag issues is very high quality.

its obviously easier to blame 'devs' because it gives false hope

oxxalejandroxxo

Tankqull wrote: »

_adhyffbjjjf12 wrote: »

It's unlikely to be an engineer skill problem over this time - that's what contractors are for. If the problem could be fixed, you should have seen progress by now.

the problem wasn´t existant before the lightning patch and the bugfixing of the AOE skills not having an AOE-cap...
so your hired contractors were actually the culprits

EVERYONE KNOWS IT'S THE AOE-CAP!! ZOS JUST WOULD NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT!!!

Durham

oxxalejandroxxo wrote: »

ESO has always had the potential to be the best MMO at the moment, but for about 2 years the PVP has stayed in a condition that renders it only sporadically enjoyable. I can not believe that a company like ZOS just could not get things straight for about 2 years whatever the excuse is. Loyal fans of ESO have given ZOS chance after chance to make the PVP really playable, but have been disappointed again and again. If ESO would never realize its potential and die much sooner than ZOS had expected, the company can only have itself to blame for this huge pity, because it simply blew things up.

One thing that I will remember from this game is laaaaaaag. Absolutely agree with poster... honestly this subject is beyond comprehension as to why more people are not continously spamming the forms much harder... I see PVE players come to pvp and leave saying how do you guys enjoy this? The sad fact is that most of us have came to expect the lag as part of the game... This is pathetic on ZOS part
..

oxxalejandroxxo

Durham wrote: »

oxxalejandroxxo wrote: »

ESO has always had the potential to be the best MMO at the moment, but for about 2 years the PVP has stayed in a condition that renders it only sporadically enjoyable. I can not believe that a company like ZOS just could not get things straight for about 2 years whatever the excuse is. Loyal fans of ESO have given ZOS chance after chance to make the PVP really playable, but have been disappointed again and again. If ESO would never realize its potential and die much sooner than ZOS had expected, the company can only have itself to blame for this huge pity, because it simply blew things up.

One thing that I will remember from this game is laaaaaaag. Absolutely agree with poster... honestly this subject is beyond comprehension as to why more people are not continously spamming the forms much harder... I see PVE players come to pvp and leave saying how do you guys enjoy this? The sad fact is that most of us have came to expect the lag as part of the game... This is pathetic on ZOS part
..

I cannot comprehend it either, and it's absurd. All these years I have NEVER seen an online game simply unable to fix a major performance issue and the game studio can just pretend to have business as usual with no big mass of players yelling online demanding them to face the reality. GTA Online once had a lag and FPS issue after a certain patch, and sore comments just went all over the place at socialclub, and guess what? A patch came out and fix the issue, which is what happens 99% of the times in online gaming industry!!!

Lava_Croft

There's no money to be made with PvP so ZOS just doesn't care that much about fixing a hard problem like the broken PvP. The latest update is the clearest proof one can have of this.

Wreuntzylla

Durham wrote: »

oxxalejandroxxo wrote: »

ESO has always had the potential to be the best MMO at the moment, but for about 2 years the PVP has stayed in a condition that renders it only sporadically enjoyable. I can not believe that a company like ZOS just could not get things straight for about 2 years whatever the excuse is. Loyal fans of ESO have given ZOS chance after chance to make the PVP really playable, but have been disappointed again and again. If ESO would never realize its potential and die much sooner than ZOS had expected, the company can only have itself to blame for this huge pity, because it simply blew things up.

One thing that I will remember from this game is laaaaaaag. Absolutely agree with poster... honestly this subject is beyond comprehension as to why more people are not continously spamming the forms much harder... I see PVE players come to pvp and leave saying how do you guys enjoy this? The sad fact is that most of us have came to expect the lag as part of the game... This is pathetic on ZOS part
..

Players have dealt with it over a year on PC. People either left the game or adjusted as best they could.

Having said that, lag is the most common reason I hear for leaving the game.

Minno

ced30 wrote: »

oxxalejandroxxo wrote: »

Zaldan wrote: »

mtwiggz wrote: »

I've been quite busy with work and the like since TG has dropped. Went to enjoy some nice prime time PvP last night and boy was I surprised! Normally PvP during prime time is quite laggy, but usually playable for the most part. Last night I couldn't do anything at all. Enemy players weren't showing up on my screen, horses were invisible (people running super fast instead - was quite funny actually), being hit by abilities that I could not see, having siege on my death recap with absolutely no visible siege around (during an open field battle), etc.

From what I've gathered on the forums and talking to friends in game this is how it's been for the past week. Somehow ZoS has managed to make the lag even worse in PvP. This is as bad as 1.3-1.4 or perhaps even worse.

Edit;

I forgot to add that the pretty pink trees and tic-tac-toe ground is also very amazing. Not to mention sound completely cutting off for absolutely no reason at all.

Welcome to ZO$ new worst DLC

But the company just gave a nominal amount of 1 million to a lucky player!!! What a weird business strategy it is!!! Why not spend the money to improve the game's pvp server to make it playable???

This 1 million lottery was a bait to bring back people who had left the game.
You had to log, etc to have a chance of being rewarded.
They just wanted to bring as many people as possible into their cash shop rather than spending time and money fixing the lag issues.

Correct. Abusive tactic that ignored the players general well being within the game's context.

This game's life rests upon the actions in the next 3 weeks or if another game can come that promises an MMO experience without the AAA abuse.

Durham

Minno wrote: »

ced30 wrote: »

oxxalejandroxxo wrote: »

Zaldan wrote: »

mtwiggz wrote: »

I've been quite busy with work and the like since TG has dropped. Went to enjoy some nice prime time PvP last night and boy was I surprised! Normally PvP during prime time is quite laggy, but usually playable for the most part. Last night I couldn't do anything at all. Enemy players weren't showing up on my screen, horses were invisible (people running super fast instead - was quite funny actually), being hit by abilities that I could not see, having siege on my death recap with absolutely no visible siege around (during an open field battle), etc.

From what I've gathered on the forums and talking to friends in game this is how it's been for the past week. Somehow ZoS has managed to make the lag even worse in PvP. This is as bad as 1.3-1.4 or perhaps even worse.

Edit;

I forgot to add that the pretty pink trees and tic-tac-toe ground is also very amazing. Not to mention sound completely cutting off for absolutely no reason at all.

Welcome to ZO$ new worst DLC

But the company just gave a nominal amount of 1 million to a lucky player!!! What a weird business strategy it is!!! Why not spend the money to improve the game's pvp server to make it playable???

This 1 million lottery was a bait to bring back people who had left the game.
You had to log, etc to have a chance of being rewarded.
They just wanted to bring as many people as possible into their cash shop rather than spending time and money fixing the lag issues.

Correct. Abusive tactic that ignored the players general well being within the game's context.

This game's life rests upon the actions in the next 3 weeks or if another game can come that promises an MMO experience without the AAA abuse.

ZOS could have created a PVP cult much like DAOC was... but they are on track to having ghost servers if they do not fix this problem ... Its a shame such a great game

dRudE

Make battlegrounds subscription only, use the extra revenue to fix the lag.

Lava_Croft

Durham wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

ced30 wrote: »

oxxalejandroxxo wrote: »

Zaldan wrote: »

mtwiggz wrote: »

I've been quite busy with work and the like since TG has dropped. Went to enjoy some nice prime time PvP last night and boy was I surprised! Normally PvP during prime time is quite laggy, but usually playable for the most part. Last night I couldn't do anything at all. Enemy players weren't showing up on my screen, horses were invisible (people running super fast instead - was quite funny actually), being hit by abilities that I could not see, having siege on my death recap with absolutely no visible siege around (during an open field battle), etc.

From what I've gathered on the forums and talking to friends in game this is how it's been for the past week. Somehow ZoS has managed to make the lag even worse in PvP. This is as bad as 1.3-1.4 or perhaps even worse.

Edit;

I forgot to add that the pretty pink trees and tic-tac-toe ground is also very amazing. Not to mention sound completely cutting off for absolutely no reason at all.

Welcome to ZO$ new worst DLC

But the company just gave a nominal amount of 1 million to a lucky player!!! What a weird business strategy it is!!! Why not spend the money to improve the game's pvp server to make it playable???

This 1 million lottery was a bait to bring back people who had left the game.
You had to log, etc to have a chance of being rewarded.
They just wanted to bring as many people as possible into their cash shop rather than spending time and money fixing the lag issues.

Correct. Abusive tactic that ignored the players general well being within the game's context.

This game's life rests upon the actions in the next 3 weeks or if another game can come that promises an MMO experience without the AAA abuse.

ZOS could have created a PVP cult much like DAOC was... but they are on track to having ghost servers if they do not fix this problem ... Its a shame such a great game

The chance to be anything like DAoC was purposefully let go of when they decided to Skyrimify the game.

Derra

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Durham wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

ced30 wrote: »

oxxalejandroxxo wrote: »

Zaldan wrote: »

mtwiggz wrote: »

I've been quite busy with work and the like since TG has dropped. Went to enjoy some nice prime time PvP last night and boy was I surprised! Normally PvP during prime time is quite laggy, but usually playable for the most part. Last night I couldn't do anything at all. Enemy players weren't showing up on my screen, horses were invisible (people running super fast instead - was quite funny actually), being hit by abilities that I could not see, having siege on my death recap with absolutely no visible siege around (during an open field battle), etc.

From what I've gathered on the forums and talking to friends in game this is how it's been for the past week. Somehow ZoS has managed to make the lag even worse in PvP. This is as bad as 1.3-1.4 or perhaps even worse.

Edit;

I forgot to add that the pretty pink trees and tic-tac-toe ground is also very amazing. Not to mention sound completely cutting off for absolutely no reason at all.

Welcome to ZO$ new worst DLC

But the company just gave a nominal amount of 1 million to a lucky player!!! What a weird business strategy it is!!! Why not spend the money to improve the game's pvp server to make it playable???

This 1 million lottery was a bait to bring back people who had left the game.
You had to log, etc to have a chance of being rewarded.
They just wanted to bring as many people as possible into their cash shop rather than spending time and money fixing the lag issues.

Correct. Abusive tactic that ignored the players general well being within the game's context.

This game's life rests upon the actions in the next 3 weeks or if another game can come that promises an MMO experience without the AAA abuse.

ZOS could have created a PVP cult much like DAOC was... but they are on track to having ghost servers if they do not fix this problem ... Its a shame such a great game

The chance to be anything like DAoC was purposefully let go of when they decided to Skyrimify the game.

Agreed. Daoc used to penalize harshly for doing the wrong thing in pvp.
Instead we have smarthealing for everything and not working target locker.

Also the map is terribly designed as ic top levels are not connected to Cyrodiil. The map should promote 3 faction fights instead of two faction fights in three locations on the emperor keep donut.

Durham

Derra wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Durham wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

ced30 wrote: »

oxxalejandroxxo wrote: »

Zaldan wrote: »

mtwiggz wrote: »

I've been quite busy with work and the like since TG has dropped. Went to enjoy some nice prime time PvP last night and boy was I surprised! Normally PvP during prime time is quite laggy, but usually playable for the most part. Last night I couldn't do anything at all. Enemy players weren't showing up on my screen, horses were invisible (people running super fast instead - was quite funny actually), being hit by abilities that I could not see, having siege on my death recap with absolutely no visible siege around (during an open field battle), etc.

From what I've gathered on the forums and talking to friends in game this is how it's been for the past week. Somehow ZoS has managed to make the lag even worse in PvP. This is as bad as 1.3-1.4 or perhaps even worse.

Edit;

I forgot to add that the pretty pink trees and tic-tac-toe ground is also very amazing. Not to mention sound completely cutting off for absolutely no reason at all.

Welcome to ZO$ new worst DLC

But the company just gave a nominal amount of 1 million to a lucky player!!! What a weird business strategy it is!!! Why not spend the money to improve the game's pvp server to make it playable???

This 1 million lottery was a bait to bring back people who had left the game.
You had to log, etc to have a chance of being rewarded.
They just wanted to bring as many people as possible into their cash shop rather than spending time and money fixing the lag issues.

Correct. Abusive tactic that ignored the players general well being within the game's context.

This game's life rests upon the actions in the next 3 weeks or if another game can come that promises an MMO experience without the AAA abuse.

ZOS could have created a PVP cult much like DAOC was... but they are on track to having ghost servers if they do not fix this problem ... Its a shame such a great game

The chance to be anything like DAoC was purposefully let go of when they decided to Skyrimify the game.

Agreed. Daoc used to penalize harshly for doing the wrong thing in pvp.
Instead we have smarthealing for everything and not working target locker.

Also the map is terribly designed as ic top levels are not connected to Cyrodiil. The map should promote 3 faction fights instead of two faction fights in three locations on the emperor keep donut.

I just want the lag fixed... but the problem lies in the mechanics of the game... when you get certain abilties spamming the server fall behind in calculations... My brother is a program engineer he also plays but has been puzzled by the quality control of this game... He told the lag is created by abilities that need to be changed in order to fix the issues but by doing so you will drastically affect the PVE side of the game...

Lava_Croft

Derra wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Durham wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

ced30 wrote: »

oxxalejandroxxo wrote: »

Zaldan wrote: »

mtwiggz wrote: »

I've been quite busy with work and the like since TG has dropped. Went to enjoy some nice prime time PvP last night and boy was I surprised! Normally PvP during prime time is quite laggy, but usually playable for the most part. Last night I couldn't do anything at all. Enemy players weren't showing up on my screen, horses were invisible (people running super fast instead - was quite funny actually), being hit by abilities that I could not see, having siege on my death recap with absolutely no visible siege around (during an open field battle), etc.

From what I've gathered on the forums and talking to friends in game this is how it's been for the past week. Somehow ZoS has managed to make the lag even worse in PvP. This is as bad as 1.3-1.4 or perhaps even worse.

Edit;

I forgot to add that the pretty pink trees and tic-tac-toe ground is also very amazing. Not to mention sound completely cutting off for absolutely no reason at all.

Welcome to ZO$ new worst DLC

But the company just gave a nominal amount of 1 million to a lucky player!!! What a weird business strategy it is!!! Why not spend the money to improve the game's pvp server to make it playable???

This 1 million lottery was a bait to bring back people who had left the game.
You had to log, etc to have a chance of being rewarded.
They just wanted to bring as many people as possible into their cash shop rather than spending time and money fixing the lag issues.

Correct. Abusive tactic that ignored the players general well being within the game's context.

This game's life rests upon the actions in the next 3 weeks or if another game can come that promises an MMO experience without the AAA abuse.

ZOS could have created a PVP cult much like DAOC was... but they are on track to having ghost servers if they do not fix this problem ... Its a shame such a great game

The chance to be anything like DAoC was purposefully let go of when they decided to Skyrimify the game.

Agreed. Daoc used to penalize harshly for doing the wrong thing in pvp.
Instead we have smarthealing for everything and not working target locker.

Also the map is terribly designed as ic top levels are not connected to Cyrodiil. The map should promote 3 faction fights instead of two faction fights in three locations on the emperor keep donut.

And any race any faction. Factions not locked to account. All the game's skills being completely redesigned half-way through development because Skyrim players. UI being butchered half-way through development because Skyrim players.

And last not but not least, PvP being marketed as a a major factor in the game and then being nearly completely ignored and underserved after release.