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Radiant Destruction ??? 30k aoe damage ???

  • AfkNinja
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    Also Dark Flare only hit you for what 6300? Dark Flare is Templar's hardest hitting ability EXCEPT when in execute range. If you were not almost dead Radiant would have tickled you.
  • catalyst10e
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    charley222 wrote: »
    charley222 wrote: »
    Well first off, yes try and dodge, if you are unwilling to attempt even the basics of combat (try and get away, lose line of sight, dodge, block) then you accept the consequences of that and die. As mentioned Radiant Destruction is not an AOE, so either you're confusing it with another move or you were hit with multiple attacks.

    If it was in fact Radiant Destruction, it's a channeled ability they have to stand there, unable to move, while it's being cast. Here's a list of options:
    • Dragon Leap
    • Empowering Chains
    • Stone Giant
    • Wrecking Blow
    • Executioner
    • Invasion
    • Power Slam
    • Dampen Magic
    • Unstoppable
    This is all in addition to options like blocking, dodging, getting away, traveling with groups, and block bashing. This is more of a l2p issue, and not a "pvp is bad now" issue. If you see they have more numbers get away, your stamina would be better spent sprinting to a safe distance than it would trying to fight them all. If you're consistently having trouble, maybe consider a new build, or look into new Champion Point allocations.

    ok what you tell me the big mighty warrior need too run away and roll always and drain stamina lolol i see this make sense
    so the healer have the power too throw 23k dps np ,if i`m trying too kill him np and i`m try too attack other , i will still fail because is going too heal other wow , so i got any hope only rolling and block too drain all my stamina and die wow that make a lot of senses lolol, my a?s ltp

    Yes that is literally what I'm saying. If your "big mighty warrior" is within execute range, and you literally do NOTHING to mitigate the damage being done, you deserve to die. You laugh sarcastically, and say you dont need to learnt o play yet you have a vast misunderstanding of the skills being used against you, So I'd say there plenty for you to learn about. According to your SS, you were already hit with 17867 damage BEFORE the Radiant destruction hit, SO that means there was plenty of time to get away from the blast before it happened AND your health was low enough for Radiant destruction to do its extra damage.

    first i play this game from beta :).
    next this make any sense 1 healer make 23kdamage and heal other
    how i`m suppose too kill him if i can not attack him lolol and need too drain half of my stamina for rolling and blocking , already stamina build have issue :( , also i can not attack other target because this templar will heal other so i got any option only to roll and block :( and drain my stamina too dead , i think is very stupid too get executed 23k damage lolol btw you say (literally do NOTHING to mitigate the damage)my character got 50% both resistance ,lol the poor guy is got lower of this will take 60k damage lol

    If you think that just because you've been here since beta it somehow means you're an elite player or that theres nothing left to learn you are sadly mistaken.

    Who says the Templar was a healer? Just because he's a Templar? I've been hit with 13k Dark Flares from Templars who couldn't heal any better than my Magicka DK. Also as previously mentioned, the recap only shows the accumulated damage as 1 number, so if it ticked 3 times for around 7.6K each (which again why were you letting him hit you for a solid 3 seconds?) it'll show the total damage done as 23k You weren't hit with an instant 23k damage.

    How you're supposed to kill him: I gave you a list already of moves that would have stopped his attack, maybe look them up.

    You get no sympathy from me, My sorc gets 1 maybe 2 dodge rolls before he's done, you have tons more available to you, maybe put more points into Stamina recovery.

    Again your only options are not to just roll and block, you can CC them with talons or even Wrecking blow them to the ground so they CANT heal.

    Your resistance is meaningless since most people run Nirn/sharpened weapons designed to get around those resistances, protect yourself.
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  • leepalmer95
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    Btw while were on topic wtf if your build, are you a tank if so why are you using dual wield.

    If your dps why is your dmg so low.?
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  • charley222
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    Ariisen wrote: »
    charley222 wrote: »
    Troneon wrote: »
    Looks like you got hit by multiple attacks from 2 different people, were in execute range low hp left and got executed....

    I don't see any issue..


    lol executed 23k damage lolol

    i bet your character dont have 23k hp lol yea you make sense there :( you dont see any issue 1 healer drop me 23k damage and is also healer lolol yea bet is the class you playing , lol

    Well, as a stamina DK you can drop 20k molten armaments 2H heavy attacks, nobody complains though.

    come on Wrecking Blow is garbage . player just turn around me and have cancel animation , this skill is juts to slow
    Edited by charley222 on March 11, 2016 10:12PM
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  • leepalmer95
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    charley222 wrote: »
    Ariisen wrote: »
    charley222 wrote: »
    Troneon wrote: »
    Looks like you got hit by multiple attacks from 2 different people, were in execute range low hp left and got executed....

    I don't see any issue..


    lol executed 23k damage lolol

    i bet your character dont have 23k hp lol yea you make sense there :( you dont see any issue 1 healer drop me 23k damage and is also healer lolol yea bet is the class you playing , lol

    Well, as a stamina DK you can drop 20k molten armaments 2H heavy attacks, nobody complains though.

    comeo Wrecking Blow is garbage . player just turn around me and have cancel animation , this skill is juts to slow

    You know wb can hit for 12k right?, anyone with some skill can easily land wb.
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  • Lightninvash
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    charley222 wrote: »
    charley222 wrote: »
    Troneon wrote: »
    Looks like you got hit by multiple attacks from 2 different people, were in execute range low hp left and got executed....

    I don't see any issue..


    lol executed 23k damage lolol

    i bet your character dont have 23k hp lol yea you make sense there :( you dont see any issue 1 healer drop me 23k damage and is also healer lolol yea bet is the class you playing , lol

    the damage in the log stacks. If you see a beam of light coming at you from a Templar they are doing constant damage till the beam stops. every second it is a damage proc so if only hits for 1 sec it will only show the damage from that. if it hits you 3secs it will be much higher. especially the lower your hp goes. it is not an at once damage you are seeing. it is like a damage over time you see in the log

    i know what you explain me , this skill is just very too strong , man i feel my my stamina dk dont have nothing and is the trash of all class

    the execute is supposed to rival the 2h execute only it has range. at 30% hp the damage is 330% harder so say he hits 2000 per second with that attack normally and you have 30% hp or less. that increases to 8600 per second you are in the beam. so at full hp 2000 a second will take a long time to kill you but at 30% hp it will finish you off very quickly
  • yelloweyedemon
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    Not sure what's worst here.

    The point of this thread or the grammar annihilation...
  • charley222
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    Btw while were on topic wtf if your build, are you a tank if so why are you using dual wield.

    If your dps why is your dmg so low.?

    got any buff on for my weapon
    i go over 3k
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  • Itoq
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    The thing with channeled beams, such as RD, is that you cannot LOS these beams, between the first tick and last, by using only other players to break LOS.

    For example, if someone wanted to hard cast crystal frags three times at you, you could move behind someone else to prevent being easily single targeted by crystal frags caster.

    With RD, simply stepping behind a faction mate won't stop the second or third tick of RD like it could stop the second or third crystal frags.

    So, RD really can make a big difference in some styles of fights, especially with the way some GVG or PUG V PUG open area type fights play out.
  • KochDerDamonen
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    Radiant Destruction is not an AoE
    The class is called Templar, not "healer"
    Radiant Destruction is an execute, meaning you probably weren't hit for 23k damage but rather took damage ticks that added up to that and finished you off
    The spell would not hit you for anywhere near a respectable amount of damage if you were at higher than 50% hp
    No it would not hit someone with worse resistances for 60k damage, they would just die to fewer ticks or before they can even be executed
    Yes you do have to actively avoid taking damage even with 50% resistance, you still have a health bar that can be depleted by the incoming damage
    Playing since beta does not mean you know the game, I shouldn't even have to note how fallacious this is
    More ???s please, they make me smile

    Edited by KochDerDamonen on March 11, 2016 10:20PM
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  • Lightninvash
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    charley222 wrote: »
    Ariisen wrote: »
    charley222 wrote: »
    Troneon wrote: »
    Looks like you got hit by multiple attacks from 2 different people, were in execute range low hp left and got executed....

    I don't see any issue..


    lol executed 23k damage lolol

    i bet your character dont have 23k hp lol yea you make sense there :( you dont see any issue 1 healer drop me 23k damage and is also healer lolol yea bet is the class you playing , lol

    Well, as a stamina DK you can drop 20k molten armaments 2H heavy attacks, nobody complains though.

    come on Wrecking Blow is garbage . player just turn around me and have cancel animation , this skill is juts to slow

    he said heavy attacks not wrecking blow just charging back a heavy attack can do 20k damage. that is pretty impressive honnestly
  • charley222
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    charley222 wrote: »
    Btw while were on topic wtf if your build, are you a tank if so why are you using dual wield.

    If your dps why is your dmg so low.?

    got any buff on for my weapon
    i go over 3k

    and have np vs phsical attack is just magika build or magic are so op in this game compare melee
    i just look all your profil picture all mage and templar , anyway eso is only about magic melee suck all magicka user
    stamina really fail in this game anyway camelot unchained is coming soon is going to be a lot more balance of this game
    Edited by charley222 on March 11, 2016 10:22PM
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  • Yinmaigao
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    I can't tell if this is a tell thread or legit, but it blows my mind either way...

    Complaining about massive damage that only comes from executes is a little silly, since it will only hit that hard if you are already almost dead. Try using an execute at full health; it does almost no damage.
  • charley222
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    Yinmaigao wrote: »
    I can't tell if this is a tell thread or legit, but it blows my mind either way...

    Complaining about massive damage that only comes from executes is a little silly, since it will only hit that hard if you are already almost dead. Try using an execute at full health; it does almost no damage.

    1 question a much heath point your character got ???
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  • Inarre
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    charley222 wrote: »
    lolol, my a?s ltp

    I feel like this post is more than meets the eye...

    charley222 wrote: »
    ???
    ??? ??
    ??wow

    much questions very wow.
    Edited by Inarre on March 11, 2016 10:26PM
  • yelloweyedemon
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    charley222 wrote: »
    Yinmaigao wrote: »
    I can't tell if this is a tell thread or legit, but it blows my mind either way...

    Complaining about massive damage that only comes from executes is a little silly, since it will only hit that hard if you are already almost dead. Try using an execute at full health; it does almost no damage.

    1 question a much heath point your character got ???

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  • charley222
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    charley222 wrote: »
    Yinmaigao wrote: »
    I can't tell if this is a tell thread or legit, but it blows my mind either way...

    Complaining about massive damage that only comes from executes is a little silly, since it will only hit that hard if you are already almost dead. Try using an execute at full health; it does almost no damage.

    1 question a much heath point your character got ???

    jacksonPulp.jpg

    thank you troll not able to answer a simple question
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  • AfkNinja
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    charley222 wrote: »
    Yinmaigao wrote: »
    I can't tell if this is a tell thread or legit, but it blows my mind either way...

    Complaining about massive damage that only comes from executes is a little silly, since it will only hit that hard if you are already almost dead. Try using an execute at full health; it does almost no damage.

    1 question a much heath point your character got ???

    Max HP doesn't matter. If you are in execute range Radiant Destruction will crush you regardless. Period. It's an execute, it did what it's supposed to do. You were going to die anyway.
  • catalyst10e
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    charley222 wrote: »
    charley222 wrote: »
    Btw while were on topic wtf if your build, are you a tank if so why are you using dual wield.

    If your dps why is your dmg so low.?

    got any buff on for my weapon
    i go over 3k

    and have np vs phsical attack is just magika build or magic are so op in this game compare melee
    i just look all your profil picture all mage and templar , anyway eso is only about magic melee suck all magicka user
    stamina really fail in this game

    UH.....
    Lightninvash - Lvl 15 Imperial Templar Stamina DPS, Lvl 12 Imperial Sorc Stamina DPS, Lvl 32 Khajiit NB Stamina DPS, Lvl 36 Imperial DK Stamina DPS

    Itoq - DC - Stam NB, Stam DK


    leepalmer95 - V16 Stam Imperial DK, 15 Stamina Redguard Templar, 10 Stamina Khajiit Nb

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    Zyle - Adion - VR13 Stamina DK

    I'd say theres just as many Stamina users here telling you this is a l2p issue.
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  • Lightninvash
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    AfkNinja wrote: »
    charley222 wrote: »
    Yinmaigao wrote: »
    I can't tell if this is a tell thread or legit, but it blows my mind either way...

    Complaining about massive damage that only comes from executes is a little silly, since it will only hit that hard if you are already almost dead. Try using an execute at full health; it does almost no damage.

    1 question a much heath point your character got ???

    Max HP doesn't matter. If you are in execute range Radiant Destruction will crush you regardless. Period. It's an execute, it did what it's supposed to do. You were going to die anyway.

    starting to think the simple executes mechanic blows his mind to the point where he can not comprehend it. hp has nothng to do with an execute if you are at 30% hp you are in range and will die no saving you(in most cases)
  • Inarre
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    OK lets try this again. No, Radiant Opression cannot kill a player in two ticks unless you have a ridiculous amount of spell/magick
    charley222 wrote: »
    charley222 wrote: »
    Yinmaigao wrote: »
    I can't tell if this is a tell thread or legit, but it blows my mind either way...

    Complaining about massive damage that only comes from executes is a little silly, since it will only hit that hard if you are already almost dead. Try using an execute at full health; it does almost no damage.

    1 question a much heath point your character got ???

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    thank you troll not able to answer a simple question

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  • leepalmer95
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    charley222 wrote: »
    charley222 wrote: »
    Yinmaigao wrote: »
    I can't tell if this is a tell thread or legit, but it blows my mind either way...

    Complaining about massive damage that only comes from executes is a little silly, since it will only hit that hard if you are already almost dead. Try using an execute at full health; it does almost no damage.

    1 question a much heath point your character got ???

    jacksonPulp.jpg

    thank you troll not able to answer a simple question

    You died to an execute ffs, what don't you understand

    Wb can hit 12k, that a skill not an execute.
    Take flight can hit 16k+
    Sa is constant 8k+ on some builds
    Snipe can hit you for 12k...
    Execution can hit for 12k+ (seen like 15k once)

    Why is it so hard to not understand that you never got hit once, you got hit by an execute while in execute range around 3 times.

    Btw you can bash Radiant. Gap close and bash.
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    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


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  • AfkNinja
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    Sorcerer's execute would have killed you too. ANY execute used on you once you hit 30% is an almost guaranteed kill, it's literally what they were designed to do.
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    charley222 wrote: »
    Yinmaigao wrote: »
    I can't tell if this is a tell thread or legit, but it blows my mind either way...

    Complaining about massive damage that only comes from executes is a little silly, since it will only hit that hard if you are already almost dead. Try using an execute at full health; it does almost no damage.

    1 question a much heath point your character got ???

    Don't see the point, but I'll bite.

    I roll with 22k on my templar and about 20k on my DK. Never ONCE been one shot by radiant destruction.

    Mitigate, avoid, or disengage.

    You say stamina sucks, but I have 2 shot people on my DK using molten armaments + stealth heavy attack followed by cheesy focused aim. A cheap move, but wrecks.

    Wrecking blow + leap also destroys people.
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    charley222 wrote: »
    AfkNinja wrote: »
    According to your SS you have about 30k hp.

    29892 - 17867(dmg before RD hit you) = 12,025 hp left, aka 40%. After the first tick of Radiant Destruction you would be in execute range (+330% dmg) where it would kill you. It hit you for 23000 dmg but you had 12k health, that means it only actually hit you for 12k (overflow dmg is meaningless just like overflow healing.) You were in execute range, he executed you.

    idk how you think 12k damage is alright ???
    a much life your character got ??? 25khealth ??
    so you say in pvp you die in 2 blow ??wow

    12K damage is fine if you have a build geared up to max magic damage. Stamina builds have their own tricks, I've landed 20K+ Wrecking Blows on my stam NB before. I see no issues with radiant. If its on you, you HAVE to get it off you - that's the skill it should be. If your plan is to just stand there and eat it, then yeah you're probably going to die.
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  • catalyst10e
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    AfkNinja wrote: »
    Sorcerer's execute would have killed you too. ANY execute used on you once you hit 30% is an almost guaranteed kill, it's literally what they were designed to do.

    It's literally all I do on the battlefield some days, just spam my Mage's Wrath, which reads: If target enemy's health falls below 20% within 4 seconds, an explosion deals an additional X Shock Damage. So once they're hit with the lightning bolt which only does like 3k damage on its own, they have 4 seconds to not fall below 20% if they do, the explosion can get between 8-10k of damage which should be enough to take you out at 20% health. BUT if they were to... like.. run away... and kill the 4 second timer, it's plenty of time to heal up and regain some resources.
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  • AfkNinja
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    You can also just purge it....and boom! It's gone.
  • charley222
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    eso pvp if you character have 20k you are dead in 2 hit :( but if you got over 30k heal is the same crap because you still get kill in 2 hit because you get hit for 10k and after you get executed for what is left 23k
    charley222 wrote: »
    charley222 wrote: »
    Yinmaigao wrote: »
    I can't tell if this is a tell thread or legit, but it blows my mind either way...

    Complaining about massive damage that only comes from executes is a little silly, since it will only hit that hard if you are already almost dead. Try using an execute at full health; it does almost no damage.

    1 question a much heath point your character got ???

    jacksonPulp.jpg

    thank you troll not able to answer a simple question

    You died to an execute ffs, what don't you understand

    Wb can hit 12k, that a skill not an execute.
    Take flight can hit 16k+
    Sa is constant 8k+ on some builds
    Snipe can hit you for 12k...
    Execution can hit for 12k+ (seen like 15k once)

    Why is it so hard to not understand that you never got hit once, you got hit by an execute while in execute range around 3 times.

    Btw you can bash Radiant. Gap close and bash.

    take a flight is a ultimate and you need to build ultimate ,not the same , Radiant Destruction is only a skill too spam
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  • Inarre
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    charley222 wrote: »
    eso pvp if you character have 20k you are dead in 2 hit :( but if you got over 30k heal is the same crap because you still get kill in 2 hit because you get hit for 10k and after you get executed for what is left 23k
    charley222 wrote: »
    charley222 wrote: »
    Yinmaigao wrote: »
    I can't tell if this is a tell thread or legit, but it blows my mind either way...

    Complaining about massive damage that only comes from executes is a little silly, since it will only hit that hard if you are already almost dead. Try using an execute at full health; it does almost no damage.

    1 question a much heath point your character got ???

    jacksonPulp.jpg

    thank you troll not able to answer a simple question

    You died to an execute ffs, what don't you understand

    Wb can hit 12k, that a skill not an execute.
    Take flight can hit 16k+
    Sa is constant 8k+ on some builds
    Snipe can hit you for 12k...
    Execution can hit for 12k+ (seen like 15k once)

    Why is it so hard to not understand that you never got hit once, you got hit by an execute while in execute range around 3 times.

    Btw you can bash Radiant. Gap close and bash.

    take a flight is a ultimate and you need to build ultimate ,not the same , Radiant Destruction is only a skill too spam

    I dont think you understand that 20k health plus 23k radiant destruction does not mean you get 2 shot. I don't even know how you came up with that.

    Radiant destruction does half or less as much damage at full health as what you saw when it was used as an execute.

    You would need to channel it 3, 4, maybe even 5 times to kill someone depending on how much of the damage you recorded in the death cap was 1 tick, at what point they began channeling, how much you were healed, how much of the final tick you actually took as damage etc.

    Just because you see 23k on your death cap does not mean its flat damage.... I think if you understood this we could end this discussion. Please reread...
    Edited by Inarre on March 11, 2016 10:46PM
  • charley222
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    Yinmaigao wrote: »
    charley222 wrote: »
    Yinmaigao wrote: »
    I can't tell if this is a tell thread or legit, but it blows my mind either way...

    Complaining about massive damage that only comes from executes is a little silly, since it will only hit that hard if you are already almost dead. Try using an execute at full health; it does almost no damage.

    1 question a much heath point your character got ???

    Don't see the point, but I'll bite.

    I roll with 22k on my templar and about 20k on my DK. Never ONCE been one shot by radiant destruction.

    Mitigate, avoid, or disengage.

    You say stamina sucks, but I have 2 shot people on my DK using molten armaments + stealth heavy attack followed by cheesy focused aim. A cheap move, but wrecks.

    Wrecking blow + leap also destroys people.

    thank you for your honest answer , is what i`m waiting , PVP ARE 2 hit fight noting more and you just say it , look you have 20k health so 1killer blade and after execute your dead in 2 hit i dont think is very fun to make pvp and die in 2 hit already the game have zerg money :(2i75r1v.png
    so here is the skill to play a game you die in 2 hit ??? work so hard to grind vd 16 item and in the end dying in 2 hit :( and this is only 2 vs 1 but most of the time player zerg 5 vs 1 or 30 vs 15 , and the poor melee try to go foward get kill in 2 sec vs 2 or 3 Crystal Fragments that hit you for more of 10k each is just not fun
    Edited by charley222 on March 11, 2016 10:52PM
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