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Radiant Destruction ??? 30k aoe damage ???

charley222
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just comeback in pvp and Radiant Destruction look so ridicule this aoe just drain everything around ??? this look so stupid too have 2 or 3 templar draining everyone , how is possible dev team let this running ???????? make any sense , all this style of skill ruind pvp in my book , because after player just stack and only do this , and dont tell me i need too roll because how melee support to make damage or kill something if i`need too run away something is heal everyone ????
Edited by charley222 on March 11, 2016 9:14PM
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  • Lightninvash
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    radiant destruction isn't an aoe.... I mean if it was it would be broken however it is single target skill. is also a finisher so less health the more damage it does.
    Edited by Lightninvash on March 11, 2016 9:16PM
  • Dahkoht
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    Needs more ?'s.
  • charley222
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    radiant destruction isn't an aoe....

    is got always 1 big red circle is drain everyone so quick ? what is that crap ??? i`m both cap resistance 50%
    and take 23k damage vs radiant destruction , let me look the picture i have 2 min brb
    Edited by charley222 on March 11, 2016 9:19PM
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  • Alcast
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    charley222 wrote: »
    radiant destruction isn't an aoe....

    is got always 1 big red circle is drain everyone so quick ? what is that crap ??? i`m both cap resistance 50%
    and take 23k damage vs radiant destruction , let me look the picture i have 2 min brb

    Deathrecap sums up all the ticks you got into 1. So you prolly got smth like 3x 7kdmg
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  • Troneon
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    It already got nerfed quite a few times....

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  • Zyle
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    Alcast wrote: »
    charley222 wrote: »
    radiant destruction isn't an aoe....

    is got always 1 big red circle is drain everyone so quick ? what is that crap ??? i`m both cap resistance 50%
    and take 23k damage vs radiant destruction , let me look the picture i have 2 min brb

    Deathrecap sums up all the ticks you got into 1. So you prolly got smth like 3x 7kdmg

    This! If you don't do anything/are unable to do anything to stop the beam it's gonna get that high in damage, just like if you stood in caltrops for 20s.

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  • charley222
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    radiant destruction isn't an aoe.... I mean if it was it would be broken however it is single target skill. is also a finisher so less health the more damage it does.

    ok here my stats vzu6q.png

    2qiyza8.png

    i just see a big red aoe draining me and everone around in less of 2 sec :(
    and is happens often what is that ???? is not normal big aoe drain and kill everyone so easy and quick ???
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  • catalyst10e
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    Well first off, yes try and dodge, if you are unwilling to attempt even the basics of combat (try and get away, lose line of sight, dodge, block) then you accept the consequences of that and die. As mentioned Radiant Destruction is not an AOE, so either you're confusing it with another move or you were hit with multiple attacks.

    If it was in fact Radiant Destruction, it's a channeled ability they have to stand there, unable to move, while it's being cast. Here's a list of options:
    • Dragon Leap
    • Empowering Chains
    • Stone Giant
    • Wrecking Blow
    • Executioner
    • Invasion
    • Power Slam
    • Dampen Magic
    • Unstoppable
    This is all in addition to options like blocking, dodging, getting away, traveling with groups, and block bashing. This is more of a l2p issue, and not a "pvp is bad now" issue. If you see they have more numbers get away, your stamina would be better spent sprinting to a safe distance than it would trying to fight them all. If you're consistently having trouble, maybe consider a new build, or look into new Champion Point allocations.
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  • Zyle
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    charley222 wrote: »
    radiant destruction isn't an aoe.... I mean if it was it would be broken however it is single target skill. is also a finisher so less health the more damage it does.

    ok here my stats vzu6q.png

    2qiyza8.png

    i just see a big red aoe draining me and everone around in less of 2 sec :(
    and is happens often what is that ???? is not normal big aoe drain and kill everyone so easy and quick ???

    What is your impen at?

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  • charley222
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    Well first off, yes try and dodge, if you are unwilling to attempt even the basics of combat (try and get away, lose line of sight, dodge, block) then you accept the consequences of that and die. As mentioned Radiant Destruction is not an AOE, so either you're confusing it with another move or you were hit with multiple attacks.

    If it was in fact Radiant Destruction, it's a channeled ability they have to stand there, unable to move, while it's being cast. Here's a list of options:
    • Dragon Leap
    • Empowering Chains
    • Stone Giant
    • Wrecking Blow
    • Executioner
    • Invasion
    • Power Slam
    • Dampen Magic
    • Unstoppable
    This is all in addition to options like blocking, dodging, getting away, traveling with groups, and block bashing. This is more of a l2p issue, and not a "pvp is bad now" issue. If you see they have more numbers get away, your stamina would be better spent sprinting to a safe distance than it would trying to fight them all. If you're consistently having trouble, maybe consider a new build, or look into new Champion Point allocations.

    ok what you tell me the big mighty warrior need too run away and roll always and drain stamina lolol i see this make sense
    so the healer have the power too throw 23k dps np ,if i`m trying too kill him np and i`m try too attack other , i will still fail because is going too heal other wow , so i got any hope only rolling and block too drain all my stamina and die wow that make a lot of senses lolol, my a?s ltp
    Edited by charley222 on March 11, 2016 9:42PM
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  • AfkNinja
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    charley222 wrote: »
    Well first off, yes try and dodge, if you are unwilling to attempt even the basics of combat (try and get away, lose line of sight, dodge, block) then you accept the consequences of that and die. As mentioned Radiant Destruction is not an AOE, so either you're confusing it with another move or you were hit with multiple attacks.

    If it was in fact Radiant Destruction, it's a channeled ability they have to stand there, unable to move, while it's being cast. Here's a list of options:
    • Dragon Leap
    • Empowering Chains
    • Stone Giant
    • Wrecking Blow
    • Executioner
    • Invasion
    • Power Slam
    • Dampen Magic
    • Unstoppable
    This is all in addition to options like blocking, dodging, getting away, traveling with groups, and block bashing. This is more of a l2p issue, and not a "pvp is bad now" issue. If you see they have more numbers get away, your stamina would be better spent sprinting to a safe distance than it would trying to fight them all. If you're consistently having trouble, maybe consider a new build, or look into new Champion Point allocations.

    ok what you tell me the big mighty warrior need too run away lolol i see this make sense
    so the healer have the power too throw 23k dps if i`m trying too kill him np and if i`m try too attack other , i will still fail because is going too heal other wow , so my only hope is too drop and block too drain all my stamina and die wow that make a lot of senses lolol, my a?s ltp

    It's not 23,000 DPS. It's 23,000 damage total over how many times it ticked on you. It ticks once per second, escalating in dmg the lower you get. If you were at 25-30% HP it will tick VERY hard and execute you. Like it's supposed to.
  • Troneon
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    Looks like you got hit by multiple attacks from 2 different people, were in execute range low hp left and got executed....

    I don't see any issue..
    Edited by Troneon on March 11, 2016 9:41PM
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  • leepalmer95
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    charley222 wrote: »
    Well first off, yes try and dodge, if you are unwilling to attempt even the basics of combat (try and get away, lose line of sight, dodge, block) then you accept the consequences of that and die. As mentioned Radiant Destruction is not an AOE, so either you're confusing it with another move or you were hit with multiple attacks.

    If it was in fact Radiant Destruction, it's a channeled ability they have to stand there, unable to move, while it's being cast. Here's a list of options:
    • Dragon Leap
    • Empowering Chains
    • Stone Giant
    • Wrecking Blow
    • Executioner
    • Invasion
    • Power Slam
    • Dampen Magic
    • Unstoppable
    This is all in addition to options like blocking, dodging, getting away, traveling with groups, and block bashing. This is more of a l2p issue, and not a "pvp is bad now" issue. If you see they have more numbers get away, your stamina would be better spent sprinting to a safe distance than it would trying to fight them all. If you're consistently having trouble, maybe consider a new build, or look into new Champion Point allocations.

    ok what you tell me the big mighty warrior need too run away and roll always and drain stamina lolol i see this make sense
    so the healer have the power too throw 23k dps np ,if i`m trying too kill him np and if i`m try too attack other , i will still fail because is going too heal other wow , so my only hope is too drop and block too drain all my stamina and die wow that make a lot of senses lolol, my a?s ltp

    It means don't let yourself get into execute range then moan when an execute kills you.
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  • Itoq
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    You were being healed while your health was low/radiant was doing execute damage. So say, RD was doing damage but, at the same time, a healer was keeping you alive, but not getting your health out of the execute range. The RD damage shown would be large (healer was extending the time that RD was executing.).

    Also, a good portion of the summarized 'damage' may not have actually damaged you - eg. last tick did 15k but you only had 1k health - the last tick did big damage because your health was super low but, at the same time, that damage relatively meaningless once it went over 1k.

    Think of this as if someone was hitting you with multiple execute skills, also possibly while your health was low and you were being healed to maintain your health being in the execute range. Now add up of the damage of those multiple executes plus weaved weapon attacks that a player might be using. Might those attack numbers look pretty big?
    Edited by Itoq on March 11, 2016 9:58PM
  • FloppyFrank
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    how to beat someone using radiant oppression: git gud
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  • charley222
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    AfkNinja wrote: »
    charley222 wrote: »
    Well first off, yes try and dodge, if you are unwilling to attempt even the basics of combat (try and get away, lose line of sight, dodge, block) then you accept the consequences of that and die. As mentioned Radiant Destruction is not an AOE, so either you're confusing it with another move or you were hit with multiple attacks.

    If it was in fact Radiant Destruction, it's a channeled ability they have to stand there, unable to move, while it's being cast. Here's a list of options:
    • Dragon Leap
    • Empowering Chains
    • Stone Giant
    • Wrecking Blow
    • Executioner
    • Invasion
    • Power Slam
    • Dampen Magic
    • Unstoppable
    This is all in addition to options like blocking, dodging, getting away, traveling with groups, and block bashing. This is more of a l2p issue, and not a "pvp is bad now" issue. If you see they have more numbers get away, your stamina would be better spent sprinting to a safe distance than it would trying to fight them all. If you're consistently having trouble, maybe consider a new build, or look into new Champion Point allocations.

    ok what you tell me the big mighty warrior need too run away lolol i see this make sense
    so the healer have the power too throw 23k dps if i`m trying too kill him np and if i`m try too attack other , i will still fail because is going too heal other wow , so my only hope is too drop and block too drain all my stamina and die wow that make a lot of senses lolol, my a?s ltp

    It's not 23,000 DPS. It's 23,000 damage total over how many times it ticked on you. It ticks once per second, escalating in dmg the lower you get. If you were at 25-30% HP it will tick VERY hard and execute you. Like it's supposed to.

    call it damage np is still 23k damage ,
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  • charley222
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    .removeplz
    Edited by charley222 on March 11, 2016 9:53PM
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    .remove mistake
    Edited by charley222 on March 11, 2016 9:50PM
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  • catalyst10e
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    charley222 wrote: »
    Well first off, yes try and dodge, if you are unwilling to attempt even the basics of combat (try and get away, lose line of sight, dodge, block) then you accept the consequences of that and die. As mentioned Radiant Destruction is not an AOE, so either you're confusing it with another move or you were hit with multiple attacks.

    If it was in fact Radiant Destruction, it's a channeled ability they have to stand there, unable to move, while it's being cast. Here's a list of options:
    • Dragon Leap
    • Empowering Chains
    • Stone Giant
    • Wrecking Blow
    • Executioner
    • Invasion
    • Power Slam
    • Dampen Magic
    • Unstoppable
    This is all in addition to options like blocking, dodging, getting away, traveling with groups, and block bashing. This is more of a l2p issue, and not a "pvp is bad now" issue. If you see they have more numbers get away, your stamina would be better spent sprinting to a safe distance than it would trying to fight them all. If you're consistently having trouble, maybe consider a new build, or look into new Champion Point allocations.

    ok what you tell me the big mighty warrior need too run away and roll always and drain stamina lolol i see this make sense
    so the healer have the power too throw 23k dps np ,if i`m trying too kill him np and i`m try too attack other , i will still fail because is going too heal other wow , so i got any hope only rolling and block too drain all my stamina and die wow that make a lot of senses lolol, my a?s ltp

    Yes that is literally what I'm saying. If your "big mighty warrior" is within execute range, and you literally do NOTHING to mitigate the damage being done, you deserve to die. You laugh sarcastically, and say you dont need to learn to play yet you have a vast misunderstanding of the skills being used against you, So I'd say there plenty for you to learn about. According to your SS, you were already hit with 17867 damage BEFORE the Radiant destruction hit, SO that means there was plenty of time to get away from the blast before it happened AND your health was low enough for Radiant destruction to do its extra damage.
    Edited by catalyst10e on March 11, 2016 9:57PM
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  • charley222
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    Troneon wrote: »
    Looks like you got hit by multiple attacks from 2 different people, were in execute range low hp left and got executed....

    I don't see any issue..


    lol executed 23k damage lolol

    i bet your character dont have 23k hp lol yea you make sense there :( you dont see any issue 1 healer drop me 23k damage and is also healer lolol yea bet is the class you playing , lol
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  • FloppyFrank
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    @charley222
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  • Inarre
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    I dont know what you mean big red circle that drains everyone fast. It could be any number of things, enemy nova, proximity detonation, spear shards, caltrops, etcetc. None of those showed on that particular damage counter though. Really damage counter can only tell you so much :(

    But they are right the count you see is for all damage done for the whole time it was channeled.
  • charley222
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    charley222 wrote: »
    Well first off, yes try and dodge, if you are unwilling to attempt even the basics of combat (try and get away, lose line of sight, dodge, block) then you accept the consequences of that and die. As mentioned Radiant Destruction is not an AOE, so either you're confusing it with another move or you were hit with multiple attacks.

    If it was in fact Radiant Destruction, it's a channeled ability they have to stand there, unable to move, while it's being cast. Here's a list of options:
    • Dragon Leap
    • Empowering Chains
    • Stone Giant
    • Wrecking Blow
    • Executioner
    • Invasion
    • Power Slam
    • Dampen Magic
    • Unstoppable
    This is all in addition to options like blocking, dodging, getting away, traveling with groups, and block bashing. This is more of a l2p issue, and not a "pvp is bad now" issue. If you see they have more numbers get away, your stamina would be better spent sprinting to a safe distance than it would trying to fight them all. If you're consistently having trouble, maybe consider a new build, or look into new Champion Point allocations.

    ok what you tell me the big mighty warrior need too run away and roll always and drain stamina lolol i see this make sense
    so the healer have the power too throw 23k dps np ,if i`m trying too kill him np and i`m try too attack other , i will still fail because is going too heal other wow , so i got any hope only rolling and block too drain all my stamina and die wow that make a lot of senses lolol, my a?s ltp

    Yes that is literally what I'm saying. If your "big mighty warrior" is within execute range, and you literally do NOTHING to mitigate the damage being done, you deserve to die. You laugh sarcastically, and say you dont need to learnt o play yet you have a vast misunderstanding of the skills being used against you, So I'd say there plenty for you to learn about. According to your SS, you were already hit with 17867 damage BEFORE the Radiant destruction hit, SO that means there was plenty of time to get away from the blast before it happened AND your health was low enough for Radiant destruction to do its extra damage.

    first i play this game from beta :).
    next this make any sense 1 healer make 23kdamage and heal other
    how i`m suppose too kill him if i can not attack him lolol and need too drain half of my stamina for rolling and blocking , already stamina build have issue :( , also i can not attack other target because this templar will heal other so i got any option only to roll and block :( and drain my stamina too dead , i think is very stupid too get executed 23k damage lolol btw you say (literally do NOTHING to mitigate the damage)my character got 50% both resistance ,lol the poor guy is got lower of this will take 60k damage lol
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  • Lightninvash
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    charley222 wrote: »
    Troneon wrote: »
    Looks like you got hit by multiple attacks from 2 different people, were in execute range low hp left and got executed....

    I don't see any issue..


    lol executed 23k damage lolol

    i bet your character dont have 23k hp lol yea you make sense there :( you dont see any issue 1 healer drop me 23k damage and is also healer lolol yea bet is the class you playing , lol

    the damage in the log stacks. If you see a beam of light coming at you from a Templar they are doing constant damage till the beam stops. every second it is a damage proc so if only hits for 1 sec it will only show the damage from that. if it hits you 3secs it will be much higher. especially the lower your hp goes. it is not an at once damage you are seeing. it is like a damage over time you see in the log
  • AfkNinja
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    According to your SS you have about 30k hp.

    29892 - 17867(dmg before RD hit you) = 12,025 hp left, aka 40%. After the first tick of Radiant Destruction you would be in execute range (+330% dmg) where it would kill you. It hit you for 23000 dmg but you had 12k health, that means it only actually hit you for 12k (overflow dmg is meaningless just like overflow healing.) You were in execute range, he executed you.
    Edited by AfkNinja on March 11, 2016 10:03PM
  • Lightninvash
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    AfkNinja wrote: »
    According to your SS you have about 30k hp.

    29892 - 17867(dmg before RD hit you) = 12,025 hp left, aka 40%. After the first tick of Radiant Destruction you would be in execute range (+330% dmg) where it would kill you. It hit you for 23000 dmg but you had 12k health, that means it only actually hit you for 12k (overflow dmg is meaningless just like overflow healing.) You were in execute range, he executed you.

    unless ofcorse heals were applied the damage in the log is over the time the attack was ongoing.

    EDIT: fixed a spelling error
    Edited by Lightninvash on March 11, 2016 10:06PM
  • FailSaucePro
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    charley222 wrote: »
    Troneon wrote: »
    Looks like you got hit by multiple attacks from 2 different people, were in execute range low hp left and got executed....

    I don't see any issue..


    lol executed 23k damage lolol

    i bet your character dont have 23k hp lol yea you make sense there :( you dont see any issue 1 healer drop me 23k damage and is also healer lolol yea bet is the class you playing , lol

    As he tried explaining earlier, radiant oppression does more damage the lower your health is. If you were at full hp it might have only hit for 2k, but because you were so low it hit much, much harder. Also, he's genuinely trying to help you instead of saying " a Templar killed you in pvp lmao git gud m8" like everybody wants to.
  • charley222
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    charley222 wrote: »
    Troneon wrote: »
    Looks like you got hit by multiple attacks from 2 different people, were in execute range low hp left and got executed....

    I don't see any issue..


    lol executed 23k damage lolol

    i bet your character dont have 23k hp lol yea you make sense there :( you dont see any issue 1 healer drop me 23k damage and is also healer lolol yea bet is the class you playing , lol

    the damage in the log stacks. If you see a beam of light coming at you from a Templar they are doing constant damage till the beam stops. every second it is a damage proc so if only hits for 1 sec it will only show the damage from that. if it hits you 3secs it will be much higher. especially the lower your hp goes. it is not an at once damage you are seeing. it is like a damage over time you see in the log

    i know what you explain me , this skill is just very too strong , man i feel my my stamina dk dont have nothing and is the trash of all class
    Edited by charley222 on March 11, 2016 10:09PM
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  • Ariisen
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    charley222 wrote: »
    Troneon wrote: »
    Looks like you got hit by multiple attacks from 2 different people, were in execute range low hp left and got executed....

    I don't see any issue..


    lol executed 23k damage lolol

    i bet your character dont have 23k hp lol yea you make sense there :( you dont see any issue 1 healer drop me 23k damage and is also healer lolol yea bet is the class you playing , lol

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  • charley222
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    AfkNinja wrote: »
    According to your SS you have about 30k hp.

    29892 - 17867(dmg before RD hit you) = 12,025 hp left, aka 40%. After the first tick of Radiant Destruction you would be in execute range (+330% dmg) where it would kill you. It hit you for 23000 dmg but you had 12k health, that means it only actually hit you for 12k (overflow dmg is meaningless just like overflow healing.) You were in execute range, he executed you.

    idk how you think 12k damage is alright ???
    a much life your character got ??? 25khealth ??
    so you say in pvp you die in 2 blow ??wow
    Edited by charley222 on March 11, 2016 10:14PM
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