Do You Want Achievements To Be Account Wide?

efster

No, I'd rather not, due to "reasons".

I want some of them to be account wide (like the fishing ones and the monster trophy ones -- why they made the fish/trophies backpack bound is a mystery to me) but not others. It makes absolutely zero sense for my level 16 templar to somehow have the AA Hard Mode achievement when the toon is literally not even able to knock on AA's door yet.

KanedaSyndrome

Yes, make achievements account wide, please.

k9mouse wrote: »

I would like have both ways via toggle switch. One way, one can see account wide achievements and when on ones the toggle option, it will show only the char that one is currenting playing achievements.
I would like to see the achievement, but account wide does NOT affect the current char in terms of skill lines, titles, etc

A fine suggestion/compromise. I could support such an implementation

Tavore1138

No, I'd rather not, due to "reasons".

KanedaSyndrome wrote: »

Ghanima_Atreides wrote: »

KanedaSyndrome wrote: »

achievements that might not make sense for character A to do, but make fine sense for character B to do (murdering NPCs etc.)

The "reasons" I wouldn't want this; it makes no sense for character A to get credit for what character B did and vice versa, and diminishes individuality and replayability. This also goes for learning motifs and the like; if everything became account-wide, our characters would just be little more than separate skins rather than having their own progress and achievements that set them apart. I can definitely see the other side of the argument, but personally I value those distinctions.

Personally I see achievements as "achievements of the player, not of the character", which is why I'd like to see it be account wide instead of character based.

This is where i differ - each of my characters is different and does different things in game. I don't want the vamp achieve on my ww character for example but another character has it. Doing arenas, dungeons or trials is very different on a NB to a sorc - each character should only have the ones they have played for.

On the other hand I would not be averse to having an option to see account wide achieves somewhere in the player pages just so people can feel good about it...

AshTal

Yes, make achievements account wide, please.

So much yes,

I currently have a Sorc going through the thieves guild, I would like to create a NB and do it but the idea of doing everything again makes this very unlikely. So instead I play a magic char who would never steal anything because doing everything again doesn't sound like fun.

Moonshadow66

No, I'd rather not, due to "reasons".

Not really, I prefer to achieve things with every single character.
Only ONE achievement comes in mind which I would want to be account wide: the Black Market Mogul. I spread these.. deeds.. over all my characters and never seem to reach the 1 million gold worth of items brought to a fence with 1 single character. Combined, I get a lot closer, at least.

NBrookus

No, I'd rather not, due to "reasons".

I prefer my characters have their own achievements. I would like to be able to see a cross-character view to see if ANY of my toons has done an achievement.

Myrnhiel

No, I'd rather not, due to "reasons".

No, I really don't want the achievements to be account wide.

The reason for this is that I have several chars and each of them goes through the game in a different way: the first one I made is basically trying out everything, just to figure out how things work. But I also have a thief that of course is earning all the thieving achievements, and I have a very honest Bosmer who sticks very strictly to the Green Pact, and I wouldn't want to have the crime achievements in her record.

All the chars I play with have a different "background", and they all do different things and approach the game in a different way. And of course they all earn different achievements and that's why I really would like the achievement accounts to stay separate.

Perhaps I will create an assassin someday - so all of the "killer" achievements would be account wide? Please, no!

The only achievement they are all aiming at is the Master Angler - I really like this one and everyone of them has to get it - separately! Apparently I am a very patient player!

TheShadowScout

No, I'd rather not, due to "reasons".

Not yet another "gimme" topic...

No, achievements should stay character specific. We have account wide dyes and champion points, that is more then most other games I ever played give... there really is no need to make other things account wide too!

I mean, why would they? They are -character achievements- things that particular character has done, and often helpful in keeping track of what one character has and has not yet acomplished (skyshards found, public dungeon bosses whupped, crafting styles learned, etc.).
The dye unlocks from them are already account wide, and the titles never ever should be - I mean, just because your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate has won some tamriel-wide fisherman competition and can call himself master angler doesn't mean you can lay claim to the same title, right? So why should that work between different characters on the same account??

FleetwoodSmack

No, I'd rather not, due to "reasons".

NBrookus wrote: »

I prefer my characters have their own achievements. I would like to be able to see a cross-character view to see if ANY of my toons has done an achievement.

NBrookus took the words right out of my mouth. That'd be a handy feature to have.

c.p.garrett1993_ESO

Yes, make achievements account wide, please.

I'm going to have to agree of them being account-wide. Achievements have always been to show off your accomplishments, emphasis on you... The player.

Separating them on each character makes things over-complicated and frustrating, forcing you to complete some of the same tasks that you may not be interested in otherwise. In addition, it doesn't really offer "replayability" at all... Having some mundane task to complete for the fourth time doesn't really excite anyone, but I feel some people feel it's necessary simply because they lack anything else to do.

I don't see why there aren't radiant quests or daily challenges like a lot of other MMOs. I feel like that would add a lot in terms of things to do, and keep those voting no for these reasons happy.

Seraseth

Yes, make achievements account wide, please.

I wouldn't want all achievements to be act wide, just things like fishing and especially the monster trophies.

But I would at least like a toggle option to see the achievements as account wide, so I can scroll through sections and see what I haven't finished yet on any character.

NskDen

Yes, make achievements account wide, please.

I want it since release.

MercyKilling

I've wondered why they didn't use those "achievement points" we've been accumulating since launch to "purchase" dyes. That way, anyone can get the colors they want instead of having to complete very mundane and boring tasks for each and every character that will have those colors on them.

Yes. Please do something with this badly implemented system.

TheShadowScout

No, I'd rather not, due to "reasons".

c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »

I'm going to have to agree of them being account-wide. Achievements have always been to show off your accomplishments, emphasis on you... The player.

Who gets the title from the achievement? You, the player, or your character? Whose head is it floating above?
What about those skyshards discovered? Who gets the skill points from those, you or your character?
What about those crafting styles learned? Who can now craft nord armor, you or your character?
What about those landmarks visited? Who gets them marked on their map, you or your character?
What about those alchemy effects found out? Whi can now mix a healing draught, you or your character?
What about those quests finished? Who gets the acclaim from the NPCs, you or your character?
All achievements...

You are perhaps confusing ESO achievements with an XBox gamerscore...

The only thing that is and should be account wide from the achievements is the dye unlocks.
Everything else is and always should be character-based, to keep track of a -characters- achievements, so the -player- can know what he has done on that character, and which of the things he wants to do he still has to finish...
You don't have to do them all, you know... and you certainly don't have to do them all on one character.

Troneon

Yes, make achievements account wide, please.

It's kinda silly considering how long it takes to get them all...should be account wide..makes you not want to play other characters a lot in this game..

Nerouyn

Yes, make achievements account wide, please.

I'm definitely on the yes side of this one, but also don't thing it's a big deal either way.

The only substantial thing attached to achievements are dyes and those are already account wide. So when you're playing new characters the whole achievement business is just a bunch of pointless and horribly time-consuming checkboxes you tick, tick, tick. I think that's utterly inane and won't do it.

Since there is no actual impact on gameplay the smart thing to do would be let players choose for themselves between character specific or account wide achievements. Those who want to jump all through all those hoops for every single character could still do so.

Artjuh90

No, I'd rather not, due to "reasons".

Sausage wrote: »

Yes, I think they should revisit their Achievement system, it could add alot of fun to do, but now most just skip it. Even they manage to get people to do it once, that should be success already, like 300 hour of content. What Im saying current Achievement system is for Elitist, Leadeboards should be the Elitist thing in the game. Achievement system what most players would love to do and something fun would make more sense to me and of course add extra content to the game.

Or then give better rewards for Achievements, something what Elitist players deserve, Dyes are just an insult. Needless to say something just aint right, actually Ive figured out a perfect reward for Elite players, for those who play Leaderboards and do Achievements, and its Elite Gear Upgrade after Legendary. Players can get them via Achievements or Leaderboards.

How about higher your Achievement Score is, better your chance is to get Elite Upgrades, from purchasable lottery bags. That should be a good kicker to do Achievements. Higher your Achievement Score, less money you have to spend.

that last part is elitist LOL.
and no achievements should be earned for each character. The points you earn aren't worth anything it's just for fun and to see progress you made with your character. i have a goodie-2shoes healer who doesn't commit crimes why should he be getting same killing thieving achievements my evil NB does all day. they are not the same

Sausage

Yes, make achievements account wide, please.

Artjuh90 wrote: »

Sausage wrote: »

Yes, I think they should revisit their Achievement system, it could add alot of fun to do, but now most just skip it. Even they manage to get people to do it once, that should be success already, like 300 hour of content. What Im saying current Achievement system is for Elitist, Leadeboards should be the Elitist thing in the game. Achievement system what most players would love to do and something fun would make more sense to me and of course add extra content to the game.

Or then give better rewards for Achievements, something what Elitist players deserve, Dyes are just an insult. Needless to say something just aint right, actually Ive figured out a perfect reward for Elite players, for those who play Leaderboards and do Achievements, and its Elite Gear Upgrade after Legendary. Players can get them via Achievements or Leaderboards.

How about higher your Achievement Score is, better your chance is to get Elite Upgrades, from purchasable lottery bags. That should be a good kicker to do Achievements. Higher your Achievement Score, less money you have to spend.

that last part is elitist LOL.
and no achievements should be earned for each character. The points you earn aren't worth anything it's just for fun and to see progress you made with your character. i have a goodie-2shoes healer who doesn't commit crimes why should he be getting same killing thieving achievements my evil NB does all day. they are not the same

So how about optional, player can choose them do once or multiple times for every char if he likes.

Duiwel

Yes, make achievements account wide, please.

TheShadowScout wrote: »

c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »

I'm going to have to agree of them being account-wide. Achievements have always been to show off your accomplishments, emphasis on you... The player.

Who gets the title from the achievement? You, the player, or your character? Whose head is it floating above?
What about those skyshards discovered? Who gets the skill points from those, you or your character?
What about those crafting styles learned? Who can now craft nord armor, you or your character?
What about those landmarks visited? Who gets them marked on their map, you or your character?
What about those alchemy effects found out? Whi can now mix a healing draught, you or your character?
What about those quests finished? Who gets the acclaim from the NPCs, you or your character?
All achievements...

You are perhaps confusing ESO achievements with an XBox gamerscore...

The only thing that is and should be account wide from the achievements is the dye unlocks.
Everything else is and always should be character-based, to keep track of a -characters- achievements, so the -player- can know what he has done on that character, and which of the things he wants to do he still has to finish...
You don't have to do them all, you know... and you certainly don't have to do them all on one character.

Actually your argument completely supports having ALL achievements account wide because YOU do everything, I much rather prefer my argument, but your argument about who does everything YOU or your character, is a very good argument in favour of account achievements & not character ones. Because while your character does do that, so do you, since you have done it why should YOU do it again if YOU have done it? (see where I am going with this ? ) You forget one thing about perspective, it differs from person to person.

This is why I did not ask a question in my statement because people can see things in many different ways...

I just stated some reasons along with suggestions.

Achievements & achievement titles have existed long before Xbox gamescore, don't try and go that route I can list a massive counter argument if you choose to do so ( but then I would have to argue against my own point, which I do not wish ).

What you forget is many people are achievement #*$%! (argonian maids of the night) and they actually make a point of it to do all of them, many people are close to maxing all achievements and the TG has now added some flavour...

It is unfair to those people that for example fishing and crafting motifs & traits ( especially Nirnhoned ) are not account wide achievements...

KhajiitiLizard

Yes, make achievements account wide, please.

Pool all the points together... so yes I want them all account based... BUT titles should be character only.

KanedaSyndrome

Yes, make achievements account wide, please.

c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »

I'm going to have to agree of them being account-wide. Achievements have always been to show off your accomplishments, emphasis on you... The player.

Separating them on each character makes things over-complicated and frustrating, forcing you to complete some of the same tasks that you may not be interested in otherwise. In addition, it doesn't really offer "replayability" at all... Having some mundane task to complete for the fourth time doesn't really excite anyone, but I feel some people feel it's necessary simply because they lack anything else to do.

I don't see why there aren't radiant quests or daily challenges like a lot of other MMOs. I feel like that would add a lot in terms of things to do, and keep those voting no for these reasons happy.

My point exactly.

KanedaSyndrome

Yes, make achievements account wide, please.

Seraseth wrote: »

I wouldn't want all achievements to be act wide, just things like fishing and especially the monster trophies.

But I would at least like a toggle option to see the achievements as account wide, so I can scroll through sections and see what I haven't finished yet on any character.

Workable compromise imo.

KanedaSyndrome

Yes, make achievements account wide, please.

MercyKilling wrote: »

I've wondered why they didn't use those "achievement points" we've been accumulating since launch to "purchase" dyes. That way, anyone can get the colors they want instead of having to complete very mundane and boring tasks for each and every character that will have those colors on them.

Yes. Please do something with this badly implemented system.

As far as I know, colors are account wide.

Tandor

No, I'd rather not, due to "reasons".

Troneon wrote: »

It's kinda silly considering how long it takes to get them all...should be account wide..makes you not want to play other characters a lot in this game..

It's interesting how we all have different perspectives on things.

I love playing other characters, but would be far less likely to do so if everything was handed to them the moment they logged in off the character creation screen. I want them to do their own stuff, complete their own quests, and yes, earn their own achievements.

KanedaSyndrome

Yes, make achievements account wide, please.

Nerouyn wrote: »

I'm definitely on the yes side of this one, but also don't thing it's a big deal either way.

The only substantial thing attached to achievements are dyes and those are already account wide. So when you're playing new characters the whole achievement business is just a bunch of pointless and horribly time-consuming checkboxes you tick, tick, tick. I think that's utterly inane and won't do it.

Since there is no actual impact on gameplay the smart thing to do would be let players choose for themselves between character specific or account wide achievements. Those who want to jump all through all those hoops for every single character could still do so.

I agree.

KanedaSyndrome

Yes, make achievements account wide, please.

KhajiitiLizard wrote: »

Pool all the points together... so yes I want them all account based... BUT titles should be character only.

Could live with that.

KanedaSyndrome

Yes, make achievements account wide, please.

Seems there're two camps. Those that view achievements as being of the character, and then those that view achievements as being of the player. I belong in the latter camp.

Having a solution where you can toggle your achievement view as being account or character based would probably be the solution, such that you can see which achievements each character has completed, but you could also see a merged account wide variation.

I would personally prefer that all titles and rewards transferred account wide, since I view things such as PvP titles as being something achieved by the player. My perspective.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

No, I'd rather not, due to "reasons".

I say no because I want something to do on all my characters. Its the same reason I think CP should be per character as well.

KanedaSyndrome

Yes, make achievements account wide, please.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I say no because I want something to do on all my characters. Its the same reason I think CP should be per character as well.

Not to derail my own thread, but if they made CP per character I would never ever play alts again.

Grabmoore

No, I'd rather not, due to "reasons".

AshTal wrote: »

So much yes,

I currently have a Sorc going through the thieves guild, I would like to create a NB and do it but the idea of doing everything again makes this very unlikely. So instead I play a magic char who would never steal anything because doing everything again doesn't sound like fun.

That's you being lazy, doesn't sound like a valid reason... Also this thread is about achievements. They aren't named gifts or, you gotta earn them.

I'd like to add, you could start opening non biased polls.

Especially monster trophies, fishing and daedric slayer are things you can be proud of, so the character, who got them, should be the only one, who can use the title. Colours and skins are acount wide anyways.