Unsummon familiar?

Annalyse

Searched but I couldn't find anything about this... is there no way to unsummon the sorc pets now? I like to use it in battle but I don't need it following me around in cities.

CP5

2 ways, first is to remove it from your bar then re-add it. The second (which I don't recall ever learning in game) is to right click the buff in the character menu (not sure which command for console). Why we couldn't just keep the 'press and hold' technique is beyond me.

phairdon

Has it changed? (not played much recently). Thought you hit the same number key used for spawning, to de-spawn sorc pets.

Annalyse

Thanks! I knew about removing the skill but it's very annoying to have to do that all of the time. The buff thing works though!

Annalyse

phairdon wrote: »

Has it changed? (not played much recently). Thought you hit the same number key used for spawning, to de-spawn sorc pets.

Yeah, they got special skills so now when you press the hotkey they use the skill instead of de-spawning. Which is nice, but I wanted to be able to get rid of the thing sometimes too.

UrQuan

Wait, they removed the press and hold? The last I played around with the new kind-of-not-toggle-but-still-kind-of-toggle familiars on PTS you unsummoned them by pressing and holding the ability key for 1 or 2 seconds. That was early in the Thieves Guild PTS testing though...

CP5

As far as I recall UrQuan they did remove that. Haven't had a chance to check out live to check that yet however.

Seravi

It was removed. The key press now activates their special skill. Took some getting use to on the PTS.

Moods

This is really annoying cause the pets keeps disappearing when you zone

Annalyse

Press and hold was the first thing I tried. It just casts the skill when you release, no matter how long you hold down the key.

martinfriskb16_ESO wrote: »

This is really annoying cause the pets keeps disappearing when you zone

Yeah, that is really annoying. It's happening to me a lot and I have to resummon them most of the time or they never do reappear.

Moods

Annalyse wrote: »

Press and hold was the first thing I tried. It just casts the skill when you release, no matter how long you hold down the key.

martinfriskb16_ESO wrote: »

This is really annoying cause the pets keeps disappearing when you zone

Yeah, that is really annoying. It's happening to me a lot and I have to resummon them most of the time or they never do reappear.

Yeah this is enough for me to not play my sorc atm, as i mainly play it with pet spec.

dpencil

I imagine the game has a hard time with skills that you can tap or hold. Think of the issues with Overload. It may have been causing some responsiveness issues with actually using the pet skills to have the hold feature bundled in.

If you are on PC and use mods, using a skill bar swap mod would be an easy way to desummon, and then just swap back to resummon.

phairdon

martinfriskb16_ESO wrote: »

This is really annoying cause the pets keeps disappearing when you zone

This is not new. My sorc pets disappeared when entering new zones, delves etc, for quite a period of time now.
The wayshrine issue is not new either. This problem was around before TG pts.

UrQuan

Seravi wrote: »

It was removed. The key press now activates their special skill. Took some getting use to on the PTS.

Hmm, initially on PTS pressing the key would activate the special skill, but holding the key for long enough would desummon them.

There was an issue I reported early on PTS where if you wayshrined with a pet summoned the pet wouldn't come with you, but would still be "summoned" so you would have to hold the key down to desummon it, and then hit the key again to resummon it before you could do anything with it...

Moods

phairdon wrote: »

martinfriskb16_ESO wrote: »

This is really annoying cause the pets keeps disappearing when you zone

This is not new. My sorc pets disappeared when entering new zones, delves etc, for quite a period of time now.

Indeed but it was easier to unsummon/resummon before, now its even more of a chore, oh well off to my NB i go.

Gedalya

phairdon wrote: »

Has it changed? (not played much recently). Thought you hit the same number key used for spawning, to de-spawn sorc pets.

That's how I always do it.

UrQuan

Gedalya wrote: »

phairdon wrote: »

Has it changed? (not played much recently). Thought you hit the same number key used for spawning, to de-spawn sorc pets.

That's how I always do it.

The Thieves Guild update includes massive changes in how they work. This doesn't despawn them anymore. Now it casts the pet's special ability.

Thealteregoroman

Gedalya wrote: »

phairdon wrote: »

Has it changed? (not played much recently). Thought you hit the same number key used for spawning, to de-spawn sorc pets.

That's how I always do it.

I'm so confused, if you are on PS4 and you have pets on both hot bars then how would you desummon them? They would only go away if they are killed?

Annalyse

dpencil wrote: »

If you are on PC and use mods, using a skill bar swap mod would be an easy way to desummon, and then just swap back to resummon.

Yeah, I was planning to do that but unfortunately the ones I have tried so far are glitching and need updated. Hopefully I will be able to use that method soon though.

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

I'm so confused, if you are on PS4 and you have pets on both hot bars then how would you desummon them? They would only go away if they are killed?

You can remove the skill from your bar and then re-add it (very, very annoying), but I don't know of another way. I'm hoping they will change this somehow.

Thealteregoroman

Annalyse wrote: »

dpencil wrote: »

If you are on PC and use mods, using a skill bar swap mod would be an easy way to desummon, and then just swap back to resummon.

Yeah, I was planning to do that but unfortunately the ones I have tried so far are glitching and need updated. Hopefully I will be able to use that method soon though.

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

I'm so confused, if you are on PS4 and you have pets on both hot bars then how would you desummon them? They would only go away if they are killed?

You can remove the skill from your bar and then re-add it (very, very annoying), but I don't know of another way. I'm hoping they will change this somehow.

Ahhhh omg..... ok thanks

greylox

I like the change but it needs an unsummon button. Earlier I went through a door in a dungeon and started fighting because I saw the familiars were active but they hadn't actually spawned again for some reason so I had to manically run and try and take the skill off my bar to recast them.

CromulentForumID

Annalyse wrote: »

Searched but I couldn't find anything about this... is there no way to unsummon the sorc pets now? I like to use it in battle but I don't need it following me around in cities.

I am now very curious and probably a bit fearful about how this is going to work on console.

Moonshadow66

I can't wait to see EVEN more summons in banks that block the entire activation radius towards a banker! Yay!

CP5

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

Annalyse wrote: »

dpencil wrote: »

If you are on PC and use mods, using a skill bar swap mod would be an easy way to desummon, and then just swap back to resummon.

Yeah, I was planning to do that but unfortunately the ones I have tried so far are glitching and need updated. Hopefully I will be able to use that method soon though.

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

I'm so confused, if you are on PS4 and you have pets on both hot bars then how would you desummon them? They would only go away if they are killed?

You can remove the skill from your bar and then re-add it (very, very annoying), but I don't know of another way. I'm hoping they will change this somehow.

Ahhhh omg..... ok thanks

Something you may want to try, on console on the character screen (the one with attribute points and buffs) try selecting the pet (from the list of buffs) and using the same button you use for attacking or blocking (probably the blocking one). I don't have a controller and can't test but there should be a key when selecting the pet on that list.

Waffennacht

CP5 wrote: »

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

Annalyse wrote: »

dpencil wrote: »

If you are on PC and use mods, using a skill bar swap mod would be an easy way to desummon, and then just swap back to resummon.

Yeah, I was planning to do that but unfortunately the ones I have tried so far are glitching and need updated. Hopefully I will be able to use that method soon though.

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

I'm so confused, if you are on PS4 and you have pets on both hot bars then how would you desummon them? They would only go away if they are killed?

You can remove the skill from your bar and then re-add it (very, very annoying), but I don't know of another way. I'm hoping they will change this somehow.

Ahhhh omg..... ok thanks

Something you may want to try, on console on the character screen (the one with attribute points and buffs) try selecting the pet (from the list of buffs) and using the same button you use for attacking or blocking (probably the blocking one). I don't have a controller and can't test but there should be a key when selecting the pet on that list.

Correct.

On PTS it was press and hold, but too many times they got desummed when people tried to use their abilities so it was changed to remove on char screen.

Lysette

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

I can't wait to see EVEN more summons in banks that block the entire activation radius towards a banker! Yay!

simply run through people, they do not collide, you can run through them. Just NPC are colliders.

Benie

Personally, I find this stupid. They should be passive, not done by button. It just makes it harder now.

Moonshadow66

Lysette wrote: »

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

I can't wait to see EVEN more summons in banks that block the entire activation radius towards a banker! Yay!

simply run through people, they do not collide, you can run through them. Just NPC are colliders.

I know they don't collide, but try to click on anything infront of you when you're in 3rd person and a Twilight is right behind you. The wings just block everything.

There are other issues with 3rd person similar to this as well, like quest followers which don't keep a certain distance. When trying to loot anything infront of you, you just talk to them instead, although they're behind you. (Not sure how often I "talked" to Quen today and stealth was removed because of it while trying to loot containers.) But that's a different topic.

ZOS_GinaBruno

In order to unsummon your pets, you just need to remove the buff from your Active Effects window or swap your ability bar. Apologies for the confusion on this; we'll make sure the patch notes are updated to reflect this new change.

CP5

Gina, was there any particular reason why the 'hold key to unsummon' functionality was removed? I find it odd that players have to shuffle around in menus to unsummon pets when getting rid of a pet is something people sometimes have to do.

Annalyse

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

In order to unsummon your pets, you just need to remove the buff from your Active Effects window or swap your ability bar. Apologies for the confusion on this; we'll make sure the patch notes are updated to reflect this new change.

Swapping ability bars is out of the question for most sorcerers who use pets, because you have to have the pets on both weapon bars in order to not lose them in a fight if you want to change weapons. If you implement some option to have other skill bars unrelated to weapons that we can swap to, then it would work.

I'm glad we can remove the buff but I have to say, given how pets glitch constantly (been happening for a long time now), this is still very annoying to do. Sorcerer pets frequently disappear after teleporting or using a door - but they are not actually gone, just not showing and not active. You have to unsummon and resummon them to get them to appear and fight again. Honestly, if you would just fix this glitch I would have no problem using the buff bar to get rid of them, but it is irritating having to do that when you have to do it so often. I would rather have an option in controls to assign a key specifically for "stow pet A" and "stow pet B" or something just to make it easier. (Or better yet... fix the pet glitching!)