Why does the blue and yellow hate the Pact so much

SpazzmanNDQ

Lokey0024 wrote: »

EP is kinda soft on most servers because of no numbers or new players just getting wrecked. You will see the low CP players on each faction once DB drops.

No you wont cause AD has better options race wise and DB is a stam DLC so why would anyone who doesn't have the adventures pack roll a character in EP. The reason why AD has so many newbies is because they have the best race options. High Elf the best mag character then wood elf and Khajiit for stamblades.

They need to make all the races viable in some way no one rolls a Nord or Argonian unless they are just messing around.

Cogo

Yellows dont hate Pact...They hate ME!

SneaK

SpazzmanNDQ wrote: »

They need to make all the races viable in some way no one rolls a Nord or Argonian unless they are just messing around.

I used to hate the Pact, not the case anymore. Recently rolled an Argonian EP NB, going to spec him for a sap tank.

Skitttles

It's cuz ur all ugly

davidj8291

I don't know what campaign you are playing but in Scourge on Xbox One, it is team Orange all the way. EP and AD NEVER fight.

RabNebula

davidj8291 wrote: »

I don't know what campaign you are playing but in Scourge on Xbox One, it is team Orange all the way. EP and AD NEVER fight.

Yeh sure they never fight. And DC and AD are never at Arrius Lumbermill tower farming for ap either.

Actually lately its getting to be a little team orange but its only in the last week or so and thats ONLY because of DC with their zergs through the night deserve to be completely shut down during the day. You can blame The Kings Legion for any struggles DC have during the day because they constantly zerg at 4am when nobody from the other alliances are on so they get a big chunk of points off it but now the bite back seems to finally be happening a bit they lose points during the day. Its going to be a hard fight for DC the more they nightcap rather than play legit because it only invites the pressure when people are on. Eventually DC players during the day will get frustrated and begin to drop in numbers and they'll just get shut down harder so TKL doing what they have been is only going to bite them in the longer term.

Snape2255

On PS4 EU it tends to be the Pact and Covenant teaming up against the Dominion all the time. Which is a tad unfair seeing as Pact have the biggest zergs going. Must be because Dominion quite easily dominate the pact in any equal number fight going. Poor Pact.

FriedEggSandwich

One thing I learned from this thread; eso players have a decent grasp of how colours mix.

Jsmalls

Well speaking for Xbox NA, DC has a very odd obsession with wall fighting at Arrius.

That and EP are easier to kill, AD has a lot of very skilled players, where as for EP only a few come to mind.

But EP is just as bad. DC will be pushing to dethrone AD on our side have 1 or two keeps left, and EP will start pushing north towards Chapman and Aleswell. And I'll NEVER understand EP's logic in that scenario.

SRASinister

jyates214b14_ESO wrote: »

Well speaking for Xbox NA, DC has a very odd obsession with wall fighting at Arrius.

That and EP are easier to kill, AD has a lot of very skilled players, where as for EP only a few come to mind.

But EP is just as bad. DC will be pushing to dethrone AD on our side have 1 or two keeps left, and EP will start pushing north towards Chapman and Aleswell. And I'll NEVER understand EP's logic in that scenario.

I don't know man I like fighting yellow on my DC because a lot of the former EP pugs have went AD on Xbox One NA. AD has become the new EP with larger populations, zergs, and bad players. I love going into Scourge with a small group because its so easy to wipe the yellows inside of it. The main difference between AD and EP is that the AD stop fighting after getting wiped for a bit while EP is like a dog chasing a bone and keeps coming back.

americansteel

Stratforge wrote: »

americansteel wrote: »

Stratforge wrote: »

americansteel wrote: »

Stratforge wrote: »

Another thread full of clueless people talking about "green alliance". Every slowpoke on every alliance always thinks the other two alliances are ganging up on them. Obviously they're right once in a while but you know what they say about broke clocks.

mmmmm i love AD denial. just as much as breaking their egos. dont act as if it doesnt exist, uh chillrend AD let DC grab faregyl. As AD standing inside a blue keep. happens all the time.

skull? AD and DC flipping emp.

both factions zerg together.

Extreme LOL at "breaking their egos". Maybe I'll guest one of those dead campaigns you hang out in and see what all the fuss is about.

i see you many times! i see you many times stsnding next to batch of blueberries. dont act as if green dont exist. other wise players wouldnt bring this up.

yea you AD are funny very comical so much hate mail your faction sends. incredible how red players i know tell me the amount of hate mail they get, your ego bruise that easy when you die? hahaha.

Ya it's pretty crazy how nobody on your alliance gets hate mails from reds! Guess that means nobody on red sends hate mails when they die. Weird how that works.

I hope sometime I run into you when you're not in the middle of a zerg.

you already have we both fought. i see you quite abit.

americansteel

Father_X_Zombie wrote: »

americansteel wrote: »

Father_X_Zombie wrote: »

americansteel wrote: »

Father_X_Zombie wrote: »

Im DC i could probably explain why it happens on Xb1 NA....

Once upon a time (console release) EP VASTLY outnumbered the other alliances. DC and AD couldn't pull together the numbers in their individual faction to compete with EP, we just were constantly getting our 24 man groups wiped by over 100 EP. so some of the PC transfers in DC and AD who led groups of new players and led guilds messaged eachother to team up on EP to take away some pressure. at the time it actually was balanced and made PvP fun, but after the EP numbers died out and the AD numbers shot up from EP and DC joining AD guilds and making toons in AD.

Im actually not seeing AD and DC teaming up nowadays, im mostly seeing DC and EP working together to dethrone AD emps because they hold it down for like a week. What campaign are you seeing this in?

seen you many times. your post is a [Snip] lie.
you like many dc players see AD siege a red keep DC helps siege, or DC near a battle help AD and leave

AD and DC out number EP

your green alliance is alive and well.

Clearly you were ether too busy zerging or are just trying to stirr up trouble to notice how vastly overpopulated EP on xb1 was at launch. You guys pop locked all campaigns for the first few months until about half of EP ether quit the game or went to AD.

The green alliance doesn't exist anymore.i see EP and AD sieging DC keeps and I'm not complaining about it. If you guys would stop zerging you could pick up some skill and learn to fight the mythical "green alliance"

zerging is an excuse for a keep loss.

heres a little fact you might not know ESO pvp was marketed as large scale battle.

you want small scale? dont go to a server being out numbered.

btw EP has dwindled.

your faction is made up of so many night blades and sorcerers with this notion theyre near invincible and when 1 bananna dies. here comes that mail.

Do you think I'm AD? That last part doesn't sound like DC.

@americansteel your saying that capturing keeps with 2 full groups with only 4 defenders is a fair practice? All of the bad EP players complain about getting farmed at resources but they are in full groups mobbing 1 person, getting no practice at their skills. That's why all of the good EP are solo or small scale players. Countless examples can be given if you want them.

You can call zerging part of the game but in the end, it's small scale PvP that builds skill, not balling up spamming snipe and crit rush at one guy.

you seem to have a white knight crusade against big groups, skill? playing the 2 button wonder sorcerer and nightblade classes does not make players skilled at ESO its called cheesing or my favorite term [Snip],

wrong thread to mention small scale.

try this start a tri faction guild. meet near the bottom right of cyrodiil and have at it with each other.

i did it on pc it worked well.

[Edits for baiting and censor bypassing]

americansteel

Lokey0024 wrote: »

EP is kinda soft on most servers because of no numbers or new players just getting wrecked. You will see the low CP players on each faction once DB drops.

too many new EP players on most servers, ill see them 10 minutes laters dead. i always felt this way non vets should not be able to play vet pvp its also important to note that the CP offers a huge imbalance to pvp but then again ESO PVP is meant for large scale combat. which us really except for the lag... when i see a handful of low levels i just leave.

RabNebula wrote: »

I think people might need to specify what platform theyre on more. I mean I'm XB1 EU and green occurences happen regularly combined with DC nightcapping every night its at the the point half of EP have pretty much quit now. But it seems like some people are mentioning things like EP having most pop and zergs like DC have on XB1 EU so those people obviously cant have the same view..

i been on euro server a few times, my friend told me alot of AD DC guilds exist, when ever red starts to get passed arrius both factions go right to arrius to push EP.

this happens on NA how ever not as much as EU or ps4.

jcjones12

So much talk about reds being easy to kill, am I missing something? because you guys cant kill me without zerging. like. ever. There are only a few players from AD and DC who actually best me or put up a good fight. Different perspectives I guess.

Azor_Ahaii

jcjones12 wrote: »

So much talk about reds being easy to kill, am I missing something? because you guys cant kill me without zerging. like. ever. There are only a few players from AD and DC who actually best me or put up a good fight. Different perspectives I guess.

Just because you're good that doesn't mean that the whole of EP must be good too. In my experience in terms of average player skill it is DC > AD > EP. EP tend to have the largest zergs due to their massive population which is what makes EP effective. Obviously each faction will have some extremely skilled players but I'm talking about the average skill level. I'm talking about PC Btw. I play on DC and EP mainly, I have a toon on AD but I don't really enjoy playing as that toon. When I was playing as DC I found reds much easier to kill than yellows. Especially on bwb, when I made my DC alt I decided to pvp on blackwater blade and I managed to 2vX with a level 11 against a bunch of reds, and I'm not even good at pvp I consider myself average.

RebornV3x

Its ruining PVP on Xbox One NA almost every server I go into Blue and Yellow side by side fighting Red its almost makes me sick to see why are there 3 alliances just dumb on ZOS part and the sad part about all this 8/10 times they still get beat its just so frustrating to fight Yellow and then out of nowhere Blue will come to the rescue and kill all the Reds but seem to never fight Yellow

dodgehopper_ESO

This is a cheesy joke but here goes:

EP is hated so much because when we see you we can't help but see red.

Rva_Kun

Because AD and DC are bad. Kappa

Snape2255

Azor_Ahaii wrote: »

jcjones12 wrote: »

So much talk about reds being easy to kill, am I missing something? because you guys cant kill me without zerging. like. ever. There are only a few players from AD and DC who actually best me or put up a good fight. Different perspectives I guess.

Just because you're good that doesn't mean that the whole of EP must be good too. In my experience in terms of average player skill it is DC > AD > EP. EP tend to have the largest zergs due to their massive population which is what makes EP effective. Obviously each faction will have some extremely skilled players but I'm talking about the average skill level. I'm talking about PC Btw. I play on DC and EP mainly, I have a toon on AD but I don't really enjoy playing as that toon. When I was playing as DC I found reds much easier to kill than yellows. Especially on bwb, when I made my DC alt I decided to pvp on blackwater blade and I managed to 2vX with a level 11 against a bunch of reds, and I'm not even good at pvp I consider myself average.

The way we usually see it on PS4 EU is:

DC Players are best at running in small, compact groups that work effectively, and are usually quite skilled both in group and solo.
AD Players run their characters and builds to run either solo, in small groups OR in large groups. Most AD players build their chars to be self-sufficient including self-buffs, heals etc. so they can handle themselves better.
EP Players run as a huge zerg which drags their average skill level down because the vast majority can't run effectively solo or in small groups. However they run their builds, mostly, to be good for group play. It's difficult to come up against an EP group because they all support each other well and they build their groups to compliment one another.

I would say, personally:

Solo: AD > DC > EP (AD and DC are quite close, but I do feel AD are more self-sufficient)

Small Groups: DC > AD > EP

Large Groups: EP > AD > DC

I've seen more AD players pull off 1vsX's, I've seen more DC players pull off like 5vsXs and I've seen...well...a *** ton of reds zerging people?

Father_X_Zombie

americansteel wrote: »

Father_X_Zombie wrote: »

americansteel wrote: »

Father_X_Zombie wrote: »

americansteel wrote: »

Father_X_Zombie wrote: »

Im DC i could probably explain why it happens on Xb1 NA....

Once upon a time (console release) EP VASTLY outnumbered the other alliances. DC and AD couldn't pull together the numbers in their individual faction to compete with EP, we just were constantly getting our 24 man groups wiped by over 100 EP. so some of the PC transfers in DC and AD who led groups of new players and led guilds messaged eachother to team up on EP to take away some pressure. at the time it actually was balanced and made PvP fun, but after the EP numbers died out and the AD numbers shot up from EP and DC joining AD guilds and making toons in AD.

Im actually not seeing AD and DC teaming up nowadays, im mostly seeing DC and EP working together to dethrone AD emps because they hold it down for like a week. What campaign are you seeing this in?

seen you many times. your post is a [Snip] lie.
you like many dc players see AD siege a red keep DC helps siege, or DC near a battle help AD and leave

AD and DC out number EP

your green alliance is alive and well.

Clearly you were ether too busy zerging or are just trying to stirr up trouble to notice how vastly overpopulated EP on xb1 was at launch. You guys pop locked all campaigns for the first few months until about half of EP ether quit the game or went to AD.

The green alliance doesn't exist anymore.i see EP and AD sieging DC keeps and I'm not complaining about it. If you guys would stop zerging you could pick up some skill and learn to fight the mythical "green alliance"

zerging is an excuse for a keep loss.

heres a little fact you might not know ESO pvp was marketed as large scale battle.

you want small scale? dont go to a server being out numbered.

btw EP has dwindled.

your faction is made up of so many night blades and sorcerers with this notion theyre near invincible and when 1 bananna dies. here comes that mail.

Do you think I'm AD? That last part doesn't sound like DC.

@americansteel your saying that capturing keeps with 2 full groups with only 4 defenders is a fair practice? All of the bad EP players complain about getting farmed at resources but they are in full groups mobbing 1 person, getting no practice at their skills. That's why all of the good EP are solo or small scale players. Countless examples can be given if you want them.

You can call zerging part of the game but in the end, it's small scale PvP that builds skill, not balling up spamming snipe and crit rush at one guy.

you seem to have a white knight crusade against big groups, skill? playing the 2 button wonder sorcerer and nightblade classes does not make players skilled at ESO its called cheesing or my favorite term [Snip],

wrong thread to mention small scale.

try this start a tri faction guild. meet near the bottom right of cyrodiil and have at it with each other.

i did it on pc it worked well.

[Edits for baiting and censor bypassing]

Don't get me wrong, when I heard about massive 3 faction battles in ESO, I thought it was awesome. But large battles in ESO are not at all fun.

At its current state, large scale PvP in a nutshell is 100 people proxying up and gapcloseing each other, spamming aoes with 10 Templars behind them slamming breath of life. It's hard to believe anyone can possibly find this fun .

And I'll admit, sorcs and nbs can be op af but that's a large portion of the players right there, at least 70%.

And for your tri guild idea, all of the EP and AD hate me in my home campaign so that wouldn't work out well.

outsideworld76

Because you reds are all rats that must die

WitchyWarrior

Darn...I posted my mini rant in another thread on accident. Oh well. NA TF is now just a mess. Thanks to a certain mindless zerg guild switching sides. It's all good though.

They hate us cause they ain't us!

catalyst10e

Snape2255 wrote: »

Azor_Ahaii wrote: »

jcjones12 wrote: »

So much talk about reds being easy to kill, am I missing something? because you guys cant kill me without zerging. like. ever. There are only a few players from AD and DC who actually best me or put up a good fight. Different perspectives I guess.

Just because you're good that doesn't mean that the whole of EP must be good too. In my experience in terms of average player skill it is DC > AD > EP. EP tend to have the largest zergs due to their massive population which is what makes EP effective. Obviously each faction will have some extremely skilled players but I'm talking about the average skill level. I'm talking about PC Btw. I play on DC and EP mainly, I have a toon on AD but I don't really enjoy playing as that toon. When I was playing as DC I found reds much easier to kill than yellows. Especially on bwb, when I made my DC alt I decided to pvp on blackwater blade and I managed to 2vX with a level 11 against a bunch of reds, and I'm not even good at pvp I consider myself average.

The way we usually see it on PS4 EU is:

DC Players are best at running in small, compact groups that work effectively, and are usually quite skilled both in group and solo.
AD Players run their characters and builds to run either solo, in small groups OR in large groups. Most AD players build their chars to be self-sufficient including self-buffs, heals etc. so they can handle themselves better.
EP Players run as a huge zerg which drags their average skill level down because the vast majority can't run effectively solo or in small groups. However they run their builds, mostly, to be good for group play. It's difficult to come up against an EP group because they all support each other well and they build their groups to compliment one another.

I would say, personally:

Solo: AD > DC > EP (AD and DC are quite close, but I do feel AD are more self-sufficient)

Small Groups: DC > AD > EP

Large Groups: EP > AD > DC

I've seen more AD players pull off 1vsX's, I've seen more DC players pull off like 5vsXs and I've seen...well...a *** ton of reds zerging people?

I could not have said it better than this right here... This is amazingly well done and accurate. Just to add to its glory however;

Because AD and DC have quality solo builds, it typically means that when just grabbing random PUGs chances are pretty high the PUG you grab is going to do more than just fill space. I dunno about DC or AD using 20 people to face a single person, I'm sure it's an exaggeration... but the reason you'll see a 5vX situation even if its 5v2 is because small group players will always stick together for the benefit of the group. You move as 1 unit, no matter if its 1 person or 30. That consistency keeps them as formidable opponents.

Meaning no offense to Reds, but as previously mentioned here in the forums, If I see an AD or an EP, I'm going for the EP because chances are higher it's a player who has no idea what they're doing, they're disorganized, or their alone because they broke off from a zerg for some glory. Odds are just in my favor the red is going to be the easier opponent.

TequilaFire

Yes keep thinking we are bad, AP is tasty!

God_flakes

The EP QQ over being teamed up on is delightful. Do you people ever ask yourselves if it could have something to do with your round the clock poplock (at least in TF anyway) against 1/2 bar each of AD and DC until prime? Ofc come prime they're gonna double team you. They feel double and tripled up on all day by you guys! Smh.

Father_X_Zombie

God_flakes wrote: »

The EP QQ over being teamed up on is delightful. Do you people ever ask yourselves if it could have something to do with your round the clock poplock (at least in TF anyway) against 1/2 bar each of AD and DC until prime? Ofc come prime they're gonna double team you. They feel double and tripled up on all day by you guys! Smh.

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SRASinister

God_flakes wrote: »

The EP QQ over being teamed up on is delightful. Do you people ever ask yourselves if it could have something to do with your round the clock poplock (at least in TF anyway) against 1/2 bar each of AD and DC until prime? Ofc come prime they're gonna double team you. They feel double and tripled up on all day by you guys! Smh.

Except AD pop locks on more campaigns on Xbox One NA. They have zergs that get on to flip maps overnight and early morning when no other alliances are on. Scourge is always taken over by at least two zergs in the morning pushing blue and red gates and act like the old ep zergs.

Rohaus

In the early days of Cyrodiil PvP when it was first released... I loathed and despised EP. Now, I could care less... I hate AD with a passion... mostly due in part to seeing their massive numbers running all over the map of Cyrodiil...

outsideworld76

Rohaus wrote: »

In the early days of Cyrodiil PvP when it was first released... I loathed and despised EP. Now, I could care less... I hate AD with a passion... mostly due in part to seeing their massive numbers running all over the map of Cyrodiil...

Well... you DC's really know how do dig graves, so start digging your own and the AD will come to finish the job and fill them up.

Serjustin19

No matter what all your alliance are. May it be DC, Ad, or EP. I don't hate anyone. Many on all 3 alliances are really good to be fair. They all have very good skills. Are good warriors. Builds. In my opinion we are all equal. I believe that alot. If I suddenly get destroyed by anyone. Good for them. It means I need to work on becoming a little better. Than I originally was. But honestly I don't hate anyone. I wish you all well. No matter were you serve.