Why does the blue and yellow hate the Pact so much

Hawkeye0099 · April 2016

@TheRubiksCube I meant alliance server not cyrodill. I just wonder how many ad is there and how many of them are vet 16 it feels like there population is massive

Father_X_Zombie · April 2016

Im DC i could probably explain why it happens on Xb1 NA....

Once upon a time (console release) EP VASTLY outnumbered the other alliances. DC and AD couldn't pull together the numbers in their individual faction to compete with EP, we just were constantly getting our 24 man groups wiped by over 100 EP. so some of the PC transfers in DC and AD who led groups of new players and led guilds messaged eachother to team up on EP to take away some pressure. at the time it actually was balanced and made PvP fun, but after the EP numbers died out and the AD numbers shot up from EP and DC joining AD guilds and making toons in AD.

Im actually not seeing AD and DC teaming up nowadays, im mostly seeing DC and EP working together to dethrone AD emps because they hold it down for like a week. What campaign are you seeing this in?

XplicitDiarrhea · May 2016

Haderus yesterday

nordsavage · May 2016

Early in the games life the Pact dominated everything in Cyrodiil. The animosity remains.

Dracan_Fontom · May 2016

Im DC i could probably explain why it happens on Xb1 NA....

Once upon a time (console release) EP VASTLY outnumbered the other alliances. DC and AD couldn't pull together the numbers in their individual faction to compete with EP, we just were constantly getting our 24 man groups wiped by over 100 EP. so some of the PC transfers in DC and AD who led groups of new players and led guilds messaged eachother to team up on EP to take away some pressure. at the time it actually was balanced and made PvP fun, but after the EP numbers died out and the AD numbers shot up from EP and DC joining AD guilds and making toons in AD.

Im actually not seeing AD and DC teaming up nowadays, im mostly seeing DC and EP working together to dethrone AD emps because they hold it down for like a week. What campaign are you seeing this in?

The hell are you smoking and can I have some?

americansteel · May 2016

Father_X_Zombie wrote: »

Im DC i could probably explain why it happens on Xb1 NA....

Once upon a time (console release) EP VASTLY outnumbered the other alliances. DC and AD couldn't pull together the numbers in their individual faction to compete with EP, we just were constantly getting our 24 man groups wiped by over 100 EP. so some of the PC transfers in DC and AD who led groups of new players and led guilds messaged eachother to team up on EP to take away some pressure. at the time it actually was balanced and made PvP fun, but after the EP numbers died out and the AD numbers shot up from EP and DC joining AD guilds and making toons in AD.

Im actually not seeing AD and DC teaming up nowadays, im mostly seeing DC and EP working together to dethrone AD emps because they hold it down for like a week. What campaign are you seeing this in?

seen you many times. your post is a [Snip] lie.
you like many dc players see AD siege a red keep DC helps siege, or DC near a battle help AD and leave

AD and DC out number EP

your green alliance is alive and well.

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Rohamad_Ali · May 2016

It's just war . Hates got nothing to do with it for me . Most of the people I've met on the opposite teams over the years are just regular guys and girls having fun playing the faction they identify with . I don't make buddy's with them but I'll say hello now and then , good fight , what ever .

swirve · May 2016

DHale wrote: »

Can't speak for consoles. I don't hate reds but if I see a blue player or a red player I am always gong to hit red first. Easy ap except for M and C and Haxus it is waves and waves... And waves of ap snacks. Blue better players overall and you could have hit 20 reds in the time to take 3 blues. I talk with blue players a lot they feel the same.

Come to Azura PS4 EU see how many reds you kill then. All the blues and yellow chickened out.

@DHale

Wrecking_Blow_Spam · May 2016

Wow I'm surprised the green alliance exists on the other platforms.

On Xbox EU, at prime time it's always always Ad and Dc milk drinkers teaming up. Yellows attack from the south and blues come from the west and it's always battle at chalman/allesia (my bad if I muddled up the castle names I forgot). Us pact having to fight them off all day everyday. Also not to mention the blues who get a nightcap emp every single day...

Makedonski732 · May 2016

On PS4 NA, AD and DC are generally happy to coexist when it comes to dolmens and daily quests (particularly Bruma) however EP tends to go after these players in particular. So there is quite a bit of distrust between AD, DC players and EP ones. Although I will say there was a large group of EP in Bruma yesterday and they weren't aggressive (apart from some accidental attacks)

Skinzz · May 2016

Green alliance was bad on xbox na but things have been changing lately since AD is the zergiest, over populated alliance now of lowbies.

Stratforge · May 2016

Another thread full of clueless people talking about "green alliance". Every slowpoke on every alliance always thinks the other two alliances are ganging up on them. Obviously they're right once in a while but you know what they say about broke clocks.

RabNebula · May 2016

Stratforge wrote: »

Another thread full of clueless people talking about "green alliance". Every slowpoke on every alliance always thinks the other two alliances are ganging up on them. Obviously they're right once in a while but you know what they say about broke clocks.

You see, the thing with what youre saying there is that theres "another thread full" talking about "green alliance". That means a lot of people have noticed particularly that AD and DC tend to zerg toward the east. I think there could be a few psychological elements to it as people are more drawn to red and also when reading (as they are kind of doing with the map) people are also drawn to looking from left to right. So AD and DC just have a natural tendency to mindlessly push like a zombie hoard toward the left like the EP gates are the finishing line.

The greening up is absolutely a thing which can't be denied though. All too often Roebeck goes untouched while AD zerg east even if EP have no scrolls and no emp after TKL have nightcapped for DC. AD and DC standing around outside Arrius at times and not attacking each other is also something that happens regularly. Some people deny it but they maybe arent there enough to see it happening at the right times. It happens a lot.

Really with the nightcapping of DC, AD and EP should being making Orange juice out of DC during the day but AD still insist on being DC's little pets for some reason. Its kind of why so much of EP has just given up on XB1 EU. It's more tiring than it is fun to push all the way to Ash while wussy AD decide its a great idea to only push on EP when they have no scrolls and no emp. It's a shame thats the way its worked out for the game now as PvP is fading into a drawn out and painful death. Probably the only thing that can save it at the moment on XB1 is for Zenimax to stop score evaluations once an alliance drops to 0 bars and/or scale the points scored each evaluation to slow the zergs of DC when theres 1 bar of each of the others on but 3 of DC.

Stratforge · May 2016

RabNebula wrote: »

Stratforge wrote: »

Another thread full of clueless people talking about "green alliance". Every slowpoke on every alliance always thinks the other two alliances are ganging up on them. Obviously they're right once in a while but you know what they say about broke clocks.

LOTS OF TEXT

The greening up is absolutely a thing which can't be denied though.

LOTS OF TEXT

Yeah see actually it can be denied and I'm doing it right now. If you think that two alliances are consistently ganging up on you, I think you're wrong.

americansteel · May 2016

Stratforge wrote: »

Another thread full of clueless people talking about "green alliance". Every slowpoke on every alliance always thinks the other two alliances are ganging up on them. Obviously they're right once in a while but you know what they say about broke clocks.

mmmmm i love AD denial. just as much as breaking their egos. dont act as if it doesnt exist, uh chillrend AD let DC grab faregyl. As AD standing inside a blue keep. happens all the time.

skull? AD and DC flipping emp.

both factions zerg together.

RabNebula · May 2016

Stratforge wrote: »

RabNebula wrote: »

Stratforge wrote: »

Another thread full of clueless people talking about "green alliance". Every slowpoke on every alliance always thinks the other two alliances are ganging up on them. Obviously they're right once in a while but you know what they say about broke clocks.

LOTS OF TEXT

The greening up is absolutely a thing which can't be denied though.

LOTS OF TEXT

Yeah see actually it can be denied and I'm doing it right now. If you think that two alliances are consistently ganging up on you, I think you're wrong.

You can say you deny it but only if you want to drown yourself in ignorance and turn a blind eye to every piece of valid reasoning to show that it is an issue. Want to prove it isn't a thing? Only attack blue or yellow for a month (depending which youre on) and actually push through roebeck to the other keeps more often. Don't zerg on EP when they have no scrolls and no emp while DC or AD have got one or the other or both and have all the points. Then maybe people would start to believe you.

Father_X_Zombie · May 2016

americansteel wrote: »

Father_X_Zombie wrote: »

Im DC i could probably explain why it happens on Xb1 NA....

Once upon a time (console release) EP VASTLY outnumbered the other alliances. DC and AD couldn't pull together the numbers in their individual faction to compete with EP, we just were constantly getting our 24 man groups wiped by over 100 EP. so some of the PC transfers in DC and AD who led groups of new players and led guilds messaged eachother to team up on EP to take away some pressure. at the time it actually was balanced and made PvP fun, but after the EP numbers died out and the AD numbers shot up from EP and DC joining AD guilds and making toons in AD.

Im actually not seeing AD and DC teaming up nowadays, im mostly seeing DC and EP working together to dethrone AD emps because they hold it down for like a week. What campaign are you seeing this in?

seen you many times. your post is a [Snip] lie.
you like many dc players see AD siege a red keep DC helps siege, or DC near a battle help AD and leave

AD and DC out number EP

your green alliance is alive and well.

Clearly you were ether too busy zerging or are just trying to stirr up trouble to notice how vastly overpopulated EP on xb1 was at launch. You guys pop locked all campaigns for the first few months until about half of EP ether quit the game or went to AD.

The green alliance doesn't exist anymore.i see EP and AD sieging DC keeps and I'm not complaining about it. If you guys would stop zerging you could pick up some skill and learn to fight the mythical "green alliance"

Stratforge · May 2016

americansteel wrote: »

Stratforge wrote: »

Another thread full of clueless people talking about "green alliance". Every slowpoke on every alliance always thinks the other two alliances are ganging up on them. Obviously they're right once in a while but you know what they say about broke clocks.

mmmmm i love AD denial. just as much as breaking their egos. dont act as if it doesnt exist, uh chillrend AD let DC grab faregyl. As AD standing inside a blue keep. happens all the time.

skull? AD and DC flipping emp.

both factions zerg together.

Extreme LOL at "breaking their egos". Maybe I'll guest one of those dead campaigns you hang out in and see what all the fuss is about.

americansteel · May 2016

Stratforge wrote: »

americansteel wrote: »

Stratforge wrote: »

Another thread full of clueless people talking about "green alliance". Every slowpoke on every alliance always thinks the other two alliances are ganging up on them. Obviously they're right once in a while but you know what they say about broke clocks.

mmmmm i love AD denial. just as much as breaking their egos. dont act as if it doesnt exist, uh chillrend AD let DC grab faregyl. As AD standing inside a blue keep. happens all the time.

skull? AD and DC flipping emp.

both factions zerg together.

Extreme LOL at "breaking their egos". Maybe I'll guest one of those dead campaigns you hang out in and see what all the fuss is about.

i see you many times! i see you many times stsnding next to batch of blueberries. dont act as if green dont exist. other wise players wouldnt bring this up.

yea you AD are funny very comical so much hate mail your faction sends. incredible how red players i know tell me the amount of hate mail they get, your ego bruise that easy when you die? hahaha.

americansteel · May 2016

Father_X_Zombie wrote: »

americansteel wrote: »

Father_X_Zombie wrote: »

Im DC i could probably explain why it happens on Xb1 NA....

Once upon a time (console release) EP VASTLY outnumbered the other alliances. DC and AD couldn't pull together the numbers in their individual faction to compete with EP, we just were constantly getting our 24 man groups wiped by over 100 EP. so some of the PC transfers in DC and AD who led groups of new players and led guilds messaged eachother to team up on EP to take away some pressure. at the time it actually was balanced and made PvP fun, but after the EP numbers died out and the AD numbers shot up from EP and DC joining AD guilds and making toons in AD.

Im actually not seeing AD and DC teaming up nowadays, im mostly seeing DC and EP working together to dethrone AD emps because they hold it down for like a week. What campaign are you seeing this in?

seen you many times. your post is a s h i t lie.
you like many dc players see AD siege a red keep DC helps siege, or DC near a battle help AD and leave

AD and DC out number EP

your green alliance is alive and well.

Clearly you were ether too busy zerging or are just trying to stirr up trouble to notice how vastly overpopulated EP on xb1 was at launch. You guys pop locked all campaigns for the first few months until about half of EP ether quit the game or went to AD.

The green alliance doesn't exist anymore.i see EP and AD sieging DC keeps and I'm not complaining about it. If you guys would stop zerging you could pick up some skill and learn to fight the mythical "green alliance"

zerging is an excuse for a keep loss.

heres a little fact you might not know ESO pvp was marketed as large scale battle.

you want small scale? dont go to a server being out numbered.

btw EP has dwindled.

your faction is made up of so many night blades and sorcerers with this notion theyre near invincible and when 1 bananna dies. here comes that mail.

Stratforge · May 2016

americansteel wrote: »

Stratforge wrote: »

americansteel wrote: »

Stratforge wrote: »

Another thread full of clueless people talking about "green alliance". Every slowpoke on every alliance always thinks the other two alliances are ganging up on them. Obviously they're right once in a while but you know what they say about broke clocks.

mmmmm i love AD denial. just as much as breaking their egos. dont act as if it doesnt exist, uh chillrend AD let DC grab faregyl. As AD standing inside a blue keep. happens all the time.

skull? AD and DC flipping emp.

both factions zerg together.

Extreme LOL at "breaking their egos". Maybe I'll guest one of those dead campaigns you hang out in and see what all the fuss is about.

i see you many times! i see you many times stsnding next to batch of blueberries. dont act as if green dont exist. other wise players wouldnt bring this up.

yea you AD are funny very comical so much hate mail your faction sends. incredible how red players i know tell me the amount of hate mail they get, your ego bruise that easy when you die? hahaha.

Ya it's pretty crazy how nobody on your alliance gets hate mails from reds! Guess that means nobody on red sends hate mails when they die. Weird how that works.

I hope sometime I run into you when you're not in the middle of a zerg.

TheRubiksCube · May 2016

americansteel wrote: »

Father_X_Zombie wrote: »

Im DC i could probably explain why it happens on Xb1 NA....

Once upon a time (console release) EP VASTLY outnumbered the other alliances. DC and AD couldn't pull together the numbers in their individual faction to compete with EP, we just were constantly getting our 24 man groups wiped by over 100 EP. so some of the PC transfers in DC and AD who led groups of new players and led guilds messaged eachother to team up on EP to take away some pressure. at the time it actually was balanced and made PvP fun, but after the EP numbers died out and the AD numbers shot up from EP and DC joining AD guilds and making toons in AD.

Im actually not seeing AD and DC teaming up nowadays, im mostly seeing DC and EP working together to dethrone AD emps because they hold it down for like a week. What campaign are you seeing this in?

seen you many times. your post is a [Snip] lie.
you like many dc players see AD siege a red keep DC helps siege, or DC near a battle help AD and leave

AD and DC out number EP

your green alliance is alive and well.

In his defense, he and a few other DC hoped on their EP to help EP push AD.

Father_X_Zombie · May 2016

TheRubiksCube wrote: »

americansteel wrote: »

Father_X_Zombie wrote: »

Im DC i could probably explain why it happens on Xb1 NA....

Once upon a time (console release) EP VASTLY outnumbered the other alliances. DC and AD couldn't pull together the numbers in their individual faction to compete with EP, we just were constantly getting our 24 man groups wiped by over 100 EP. so some of the PC transfers in DC and AD who led groups of new players and led guilds messaged eachother to team up on EP to take away some pressure. at the time it actually was balanced and made PvP fun, but after the EP numbers died out and the AD numbers shot up from EP and DC joining AD guilds and making toons in AD.

Im actually not seeing AD and DC teaming up nowadays, im mostly seeing DC and EP working together to dethrone AD emps because they hold it down for like a week. What campaign are you seeing this in?

seen you many times. your post is a [Snip] lie.
you like many dc players see AD siege a red keep DC helps siege, or DC near a battle help AD and leave

AD and DC out number EP

your green alliance is alive and well.

In his defense, he and a few other DC hoped on their EP to help EP push AD.

That's true, I remember that. In all honesty I hate The AD in Chillrend a lot more then EP. Nowadays AD Zerg just as hard as EP. I haven't been on my red in a while though because it looks like you guys are able to push on your own. After DB hits I'll try to level it up just incase.

Good seeing ya though man!

Father_X_Zombie · May 2016

americansteel wrote: »

Father_X_Zombie wrote: »

americansteel wrote: »

Father_X_Zombie wrote: »

Im DC i could probably explain why it happens on Xb1 NA....

Once upon a time (console release) EP VASTLY outnumbered the other alliances. DC and AD couldn't pull together the numbers in their individual faction to compete with EP, we just were constantly getting our 24 man groups wiped by over 100 EP. so some of the PC transfers in DC and AD who led groups of new players and led guilds messaged eachother to team up on EP to take away some pressure. at the time it actually was balanced and made PvP fun, but after the EP numbers died out and the AD numbers shot up from EP and DC joining AD guilds and making toons in AD.

Im actually not seeing AD and DC teaming up nowadays, im mostly seeing DC and EP working together to dethrone AD emps because they hold it down for like a week. What campaign are you seeing this in?

seen you many times. your post is a [Snip] lie.
you like many dc players see AD siege a red keep DC helps siege, or DC near a battle help AD and leave

AD and DC out number EP

your green alliance is alive and well.

Clearly you were ether too busy zerging or are just trying to stirr up trouble to notice how vastly overpopulated EP on xb1 was at launch. You guys pop locked all campaigns for the first few months until about half of EP ether quit the game or went to AD.

The green alliance doesn't exist anymore.i see EP and AD sieging DC keeps and I'm not complaining about it. If you guys would stop zerging you could pick up some skill and learn to fight the mythical "green alliance"

zerging is an excuse for a keep loss.

heres a little fact you might not know ESO pvp was marketed as large scale battle.

you want small scale? dont go to a server being out numbered.

btw EP has dwindled.

your faction is made up of so many night blades and sorcerers with this notion theyre near invincible and when 1 bananna dies. here comes that mail.

Do you think I'm AD? That last part doesn't sound like DC.

@americansteel your saying that capturing keeps with 2 full groups with only 4 defenders is a fair practice? All of the bad EP players complain about getting farmed at resources but they are in full groups mobbing 1 person, getting no practice at their skills. That's why all of the good EP are solo or small scale players. Countless examples can be given if you want them.

You can call zerging part of the game but in the end, it's small scale PvP that builds skill, not balling up spamming snipe and crit rush at one guy.

Farorin · May 2016

I have never experianced this team green thing that people mention, although I don't doubt it's existence, probably large guilds with players in two different factions combining their efforts.

The exact same thing happens in reverse though, team purple used to happen all the time, the reds and blues would join up and try wipe us. I remember one time sieging a red keep, and out came a horde of blues when we broke down the door, being support by reds that were flanking us.

Heike · May 2016

It seems like Red hasn't been pvp'ing as much lately, but I don't know anyone, in any guild or group, that ACTUALLY outright "hates" the Pact. I'm AD and it seems like during this current 30 day campaign, there have only been a handfull of Pact players that are on; like.. never more than 1 more bar of players.

But, all "normal PvP trashtalk" aside... I don't think anyone (from AD at least) "hates" the Pact.

And, i have NO IDEA where you got the idea that Blue and Yellow are "teaming up" with each other... to do ANYTHING.. together. lol THAT ain't happening.

RabNebula · May 2016

I think people might need to specify what platform theyre on more. I mean I'm XB1 EU and green occurences happen regularly combined with DC nightcapping every night its at the the point half of EP have pretty much quit now. But it seems like some people are mentioning things like EP having most pop and zergs like DC have on XB1 EU so those people obviously cant have the same view..

magictucktuck · May 2016

Yellow this week ran the map on scourge Xbox one so tonight my guild specifically targeted u because instead of attacking yellow who has ran the map you guys were pushing us. We were upset

RabNebula · May 2016

magictucktuck wrote: »

Yellow this week ran the map on scourge Xbox one so tonight my guild specifically targeted u because instead of attacking yellow who has ran the map you guys were pushing us. We were upset

What did I say about specifying where youre playing? You on Scourge EU? Are you DC?

On XB1 Scourge EU, DC have had a huge lead because all TKL do is zerg to nightcap when nobody is on. Thats why theres a target on DC's back during the day. They need to get shut down as much as possible in the day to make up the points and keep the campaign close. Until Zenimax stop score evaluations once any alliance hits 0 pop then thats the way its going to have to be to even keep it remotely close. Unfortunately only a few on AD recognise that so they still push EP all the time.

Lokey0024 · May 2016

EP is kinda soft on most servers because of no numbers or new players just getting wrecked. You will see the low CP players on each faction once DB drops.