Who would win in a fight The three living false gods or a Dragonborn?

Thevampirenight

Putting this up because this guildly says a dragonborn would win against any of the three. Which of course I said the false gods would win but yeah he says no so your thoughts?

KhajiitiLizard

Depends on which dragonborn.

If the Neverarine can kill them, who otherwise has no special powers like a dragonborn. Sure immunity to disease because of corpus (it doesn't make the Neverarine immortal because he/she can still be killed) but that's hardly a superpower compared to near-godlike magic that the Three have. If the Neverarine can kill Amalexia than a dragonborn like Tiber Septim (Talos) could too. I guess she was pretty weak when she dies though... at the top of her power? IDK

It all depends on when and who.

Acsvf

Who? There are quite a few.

Lookstowindwards

No the Three would beat the dragonborn with only just a wink.

Now (ESO time) no.

In the third era - yes (assuming you mean a dragonborn like Talos)

vakieh

I would have thought that at this point in time ALMSIVI still have the Heart of Lorkhan and Kagrenac's tools at the ready, and could therefore knock any Dragonborn square on his backside if he even looked at them funny.

TheShadowScout

No the Three would beat the dragonborn with only just a wink.

Yeah, at this 2nd Era time period the Three still have full access to the divine power of the heart of lorkhan, and thus would make short work of any dragonborn, dragonshouting nonwithstanding.

Wait a few centuries until Dargoth Ur awakens though... and the equation slowly starts to change. And once you get to TES:Morrowind time... the three barely have any power left, and... well... many here played through it, so no more needs be said.

americansteel

Yes a Dragon Born would beat them at east during this time period.

Thevampirenight wrote: »

Putting this up because this guildly says a dragonborn would win against any of the three. Which of course I said the false gods would win but yeah he says no so your thoughts?

lore wise the Dragonborn is blessed by Akatosh, the 3 use mortals for their bidding.
Nerevarine would destroy the 3 with ease and he is weak.
most dragonborns were the shezarinne, an avatar of lorkhan good luck trying to combat that!

LadyNalcarya

No the Three would beat the dragonborn with only just a wink.

But I'm biased, I really hate what Skyrim did to Dragonborns. And nords, but that's for another topic.

JD2013

I don't think there is a Dragonborn alive on Tamriel during the timeline of ESO.

Am I wrong in that? I could be wrong.

ForlornBeliever

Yes a Dragon Born would beat them at east during this time period.

Considering you kill Almalexia in the Tribunal expansion of Morrowind, I say yes because they obviously aren't all-powerful.

Danikat

No the Three would beat the dragonborn with only just a wink.

JD2013 wrote: »

I don't think there is a Dragonborn alive on Tamriel during the timeline of ESO.

Am I wrong in that? I could be wrong.

I don't think there are any known dragonborn.

It's hard to say if there are any at all, because my understanding is the only way for anyone (including the individual themselves) to know they're dragonborn is to try and do something only they can, like light the dragonfires.

But I think it is hereditary, so presumably there must be some, like Septim's ancestors.

LadyNalcarya

No the Three would beat the dragonborn with only just a wink.

ForlornBeliever wrote: »

Considering you kill Almalexia in the Tribunal expansion of Morrowind, I say yes because they obviously aren't all-powerful.

Atm they are close to it, they have powers of hearth of Lorkhan.

JD2013

Danikat wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

I don't think there is a Dragonborn alive on Tamriel during the timeline of ESO.

Am I wrong in that? I could be wrong.

I don't think there are any known dragonborn.

It's hard to say if there are any at all, because my understanding is the only way for anyone (including the individual themselves) to know they're dragonborn is to try and do something only they can, like light the dragonfires.

But I think it is hereditary, so presumably there must be some, like Septim's ancestors.

Yeah, I know that a Draginborn may not know they are, but with the Dragonfires dark, I'm not sure there are any at least consciously Dragonborn at the moment.

However, someone Datamined (which doesn't mean to say that it'll be put in game) a dragon priest outfit for the crown store, and some Skyrim type armour, and a lot of the outfits now are tied to DLC, so maybe we will be seeing something related in the future?

WalkingLegacy

They're all distinctively powerful that I wouldn't even know who to root for.

But go figure a Skyrim player thinks the Dragonborn is the be all end all.

My love for all things Morrowind though I'd probably throw my crowns at the Nerevarine.

WhiteCoatSyndrome

No the Three would beat the dragonborn with only just a wink.

Maybe not a wink but the Three could beat a Dragonborn because the Three ALREADY DID beat a Dragonborn. Reman II didn't manage to bring Morrowind into the Empire, he was killed in battle and his heirs had to take up the fight. (Whether he was killed by the Three themselves or one of their followers hardly matters; if they were able to get their lackeys to do it, they were still responsible.)

Now, if you meant to ask if the Three could beat ANY Dragonborn, I'm going to say no; I suspect Talos would have stomped them and probably the Last Dragonborn would have too. Maybe Miraak.

The_Sadist

No the Three would beat the dragonborn with only just a wink.

People need to read some lore.

As pointed out and ignored by some, the Three have complete access to the power of the heart of lorkhan, alongside the tools required to harness said power. Honestly there shouldn't even be a war going on right now, the Three are currently extremely overpowered.

Recremen

Only One can beat the Three (or really, the two), and they were a Dragonborn, so we already have the answer to this.

Totalitarian

No the Three would beat the dragonborn with only just a wink.

Access to divine power, and more importantly, the Numidium, would give the Tribunal the power to strike down everything, and why they don't use it to affect the Planemeld is beyond me.

That being said, if a Dovahkiin could get their hands on the Numidium, or any other matter of divine power

Like the Amulet of Kings in the main story

then the Tribunal would have a threat on their hands.

This makes me think about how powerful the Pact are in the war. If the Tribunal wanted to, they could strike down the opposing armies with either their powers or the Numidium (after a power source is found).

Kova

No the Three would beat the dragonborn with only just a wink.

Anyone voting for the dragonborn just aren't reading what people are posting in this thread, or don't really care.

Also, false gods? Tiber Septim wakes up and achieves Chim and is never seen from again for the entirety of three games, with the exception of his "Lucky Coin" appearance as wulf in morrowind, and people still fight for the stormcloaks in skyrim in the name of Talos.

Sotha-Sil, Almalexia, and Vivec achieve Chim and rule for 3500 years and they're false gods?

Totalitarian wrote: »

Access to divine power, and more importantly, the Numidium, would give the Tribunal the power to strike down everything, and why they don't use it to affect the Planemeld is beyond me.

That being said, if a Dovahkiin could get their hands on the Numidium, or any other matter of divine power

Like the Amulet of Kings in the main story

then the Tribunal would have a threat on their hands.

This makes me think about how powerful the Pact are in the war. If the Tribunal wanted to, they could strike down the opposing armies with either their powers or the Numidium (after a power source is found).

"Simply put, as the Gods cannot know joy as mortals, their creation, so mortals may only understand the joy of Liberty by becoming the progenitors of the models that can make the jump past mortal death."
―Loveletter From the Fifth Era, The True Purpose of Tamriel

The Gods, by their own purpose, can't seem to act directly on the mortal world. That might explain it.

LBxFinalDeath

The Nerevarine would win of course.

KhajiitiLizard

A dragonborn could just become a vessel of Akatosh and then the Three would be no more... but then it would a draw.

But that wouldn't happen because Akatosh has greater concerns during the time of ESO... like Molag Bal and his planemeld... and being the god of time he'd know that the Three would be dealt with anyway.

But theoretically speaking if a dragonborn could become a vessel of Akatosh to fight the Three, he'd win, but at the cost of his life. But you'd still need the Amulet of Kings.

The only reason your character is not killed by becoming a vessel of Akatosh at the end of the main quest because they are missing their soul and someone else died in their place.

RAGUNAnoOne

This thread needs a spoiler tag...

Totalitarian

No the Three would beat the dragonborn with only just a wink.

Kova wrote: »

The Gods, by their own purpose, can't seem to act directly on the mortal world. That might explain it.

Ah, that would make sense. Of course, the Numidium would be able to circumnavigate that, unless, of course, the Numidium itself is considered a god and cannot act directly.

Of course, I would think that, due to the fact that the Tribunal were once mortal, they would be able to interact with the mortal world. Perhaps they should have also used the Numidium for that . However, the Tribunal also has massive amounts of potential to rally up massive armies (religion can be a real motivator) to kill a Dovahkiin. And if all else fails, that would probably work.

vakieh

ALMSIVI presumably know that using their power to take over would set them against not just every non-Dunmer race in the game, but would also see a pretty unified Aedric and Daedric pantheon set against them.

Just because they have the power atm to swat a Dragonborn on his ass (and yes, they absolutely do right now) doesn't mean they can set themselves against a unified 'everybody else'.

Also, everyone talking about the whole Amulet of Kings, Avatar of Akatosh situation needs to go replay Oblivion - becoming the Avatar DESTROYS THE AMULET. No way that's happening before its appointed time.

IwakuraLain42

Totalitarian wrote: »

Access to divine power, and more importantly, the Numidium, would give the Tribunal the power to strike down everything, and why they don't use it to affect the Planemeld is beyond me.

Because the Three are typical Gods who prefer to do nothing. Look how long Vivec waited before he ended the Akaviri invasion. And I don't thing anyone, including the Three, completely understands Dwemer tools. Plus I'm sure they still remember what happened the last time someone activated Numidum (a complete race disappeared), so I don't think they'll risk it.

Totalitarian

No the Three would beat the dragonborn with only just a wink.

IwakuraLain42 wrote: »

Because the Three are typical Gods who prefer to do nothing. Look how long Vivec waited before he ended the Akaviri invasion. And I don't thing anyone, including the Three, completely understands Dwemer tools. Plus I'm sure they still remember what happened the last time someone activated Numidum (a complete race disappeared), so I don't think they'll risk it.

Very good thoughts. I never considered that there might be unforseen consequences of the Numidium's use (but of course, if the sole focus was destroying a Dragonborn, then that wouldn't matter). And, of course, repeating myself (jokingly of course), perhaps they should have used the Numidium for the knowledge of fully working it . The Akaviri invasion and the Planemeld were dire events that, in my opinion, required action over inaction.

It would seem as if the Ascendance to godhood for the Tribunal have caused them to abandon their mortal roots. If I were in their place (I would want to be Almalexia for sure), I would certainly act differently. If I were a member of the Tribunal, The Dunmer would have a god-king who is both a protector of their people and a fierce adversary. Of course, that brings all of it's own disadvantages.


On a completely other topic, I've been writing a novel about a general situation similar to this (I formed the idea before I knew anything about ES lore). Where people who are like the Tribunal (in that they are mortals transcended to gods) set up great nations and rule over the world. Their massive personalities and nations get into massive wars consistently. Everything progresses from the dawn of civilization to hyper-futuristic nation-states, following the stories of the leaders and the common people. I guess you can see where I get bias and ideas from. When I finish it [whenever], it'll be cool. But until then, I have a ton of other stuff to write, namely ESO fan fic.

Duiwel

JD2013 wrote: »

I don't think there is a Dragonborn alive on Tamriel during the timeline of ESO.

Am I wrong in that? I could be wrong.

No no you are right.



OP honestly I wouldn't bet on such weaklings.

Padomay killed a primordial, then made Sithis - all in on Sithis.



"Where is your god now?"

Vivecc

No the Three would beat the dragonborn with only just a wink.

have voted, but not read thru the other posts. As history, ah, sorry future ^^ will tell theres only ONE that can beat the Three (as told in the awesome Morrowind )

babylon

Yes a Dragon Born would beat them at east during this time period.

The Dragonborn would win, or the three gods would need a nerfing.

I_killed_Vivec

Yes a Dragon Born would beat them at east during this time period.

I did kill the false gods.

Tannakaobi

Yes a Dragon Born would beat them at east during this time period.

Depends if it was me playing the Dragonborn or not, but I'd destroy anything put in front of me... or!

`tgm