ESO you need to fix the keep wall glitch/exploit.

RiverDan

I just watched a yellow team, in Haderus, glitch through three keep outer walls with wall strength at 90%. This is a game breaker.
There is a team of four yellow players running around Haderus capturing keeps without knocking down the outer wall. How do the other teams even stand a chance? In any online gaming cheating needs to be fixed, and cheaters removed.

Telel

Telel of course has to ask.

1) Did you actually see them come through the wall, or were they merely inside as you arrived.
a) was there combat there recently. Perhaps even a short lived siege where the attackers mysteriously vanished?
b) No recent keep flips that left corpses laying around the keep?

1) What classes were they?

3) Did you have any and all witness report them to ZOS for cheating?

4) Did you have any and all witnesses report that specific wall as being exploitable or broken?

lolo_01b16_ESO

Hm, as far as I know they removed all possibilites to enter a keep that has no wall below 33% and no defending player standing in a stupid position. If you found a new way to get in, maybe write a ticket to the support and describe how to do it exactly, then they'll usually try to fix it.

RiverDan

I flat out watched them set up three siege weapons at the outer wall. Then when the wall gets to around 90%, they take down their siege and jump over the wall. The whole time our keep isn't flagged. Then the set up a bunch of siege inside the keep wall to knock down the inner postern wall.
So by the time the keep is flagged. The inner postern is below 50% health. Seems sketchy to me.

RiverDan

I guess next time I see it I'll record it and post it somewhere?

RiverDan

I know exactly how they got in.

MormondPayne_EP

How?
What do you mean they "jumped over the wall" ?

lolo_01b16_ESO

When you break down certain walls to 33% there are invisable stairs that you can use to get inside. Probably someone found a way to use those stairs without sieging the wall all the way down to 33%.

Spliffo

This can be done by any class on any keep. Just destroy the Postern House and break the wall enough for the first crumble and if you know where to jump your in

kevlarto_ESO

Night blades can still glitch into a keep if they ambush someone at the right time, it happened to me when I ambushed someone and to my surprise found my self inside a keep and dead in a few seconds lol, I am sure there are other ways since that one is still in the game and was supposed to be fixed a while back.

Cody

Telel wrote: »

Telel of course has to ask.

1) Did you actually see them come through the wall, or were they merely inside as you arrived.
a) was there combat there recently. Perhaps even a short lived siege where the attackers mysteriously vanished?
b) No recent keep flips that left corpses laying around the keep?

1) What classes were they?

3) Did you have any and all witness report them to ZOS for cheating?

4) Did you have any and all witnesses report that specific wall as being exploitable or broken?

I fixed that for you Khajit:) that wall would not be fixed if it was, given their track record in these matters

and the players would most likely not be punished if their guilt was proven. sad as that is

JaJaLuka

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Hm, as far as I know they removed all possibilites to enter a keep that has no wall below 33% and no defending player standing in a stupid position. If you found a new way to get in, maybe write a ticket to the support and describe how to do it exactly, then they'll usually try to fix it.

There are actually quite a few ways to get into a keep still before the walls are knocked down. Some keeps are easier than others.

lolo_01b16_ESO

JaJaLuka wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Hm, as far as I know they removed all possibilites to enter a keep that has no wall below 33% and no defending player standing in a stupid position. If you found a new way to get in, maybe write a ticket to the support and describe how to do it exactly, then they'll usually try to fix it.

There are actually quite a few ways to get into a keep still before the walls are knocked down. Some keeps are easier than others.

You can get into a keep without attacking the wall or using a targeted skill? I know there are many ways inside, but all of which I know require a damaged wall, an enemy standing in the right spot or a friend who is already inside.

Junipus

Aleswell has a spot (or had if they fixed it) where you don't need anything or anyone to get in. I think even if they did fix it it would still be possible. Glademist has some spots where you can still leap or chain your way in.

Scamandros

Where theres a will theres a way

Chelos

RiverDan wrote: »

I guess next time I see it I'll record it and post it somewhere?

Recording is good but do not post it on the forum except
a) you take care the names are not visible (see rules on naming and shaming)
b) you don't want everybody else and their mothas to use this exploit

Skyy

dap_robertb16_ESO wrote: »

Aleswell has a spot (or had if they fixed it) where you don't need anything or anyone to get in. I think even if they did fix it it would still be possible. Glademist has some spots where you can still leap or chain your way in.

Right now nearly every keep is possible to chain into. Supposedly that is gonna stop with the thieves guild patch though.

yodased

Chelos wrote: »

b) you don't want everybody else and their mothas to use this exploit

Sorry to single you out @chelos I'm sure you are a wonderful person, but this is exactly what is wrong with the community in this and all games really.

Make that *** as public as you possibly can, have every single person breaking the game in ridiculous ways because the code is broken and I guarantee you *** will get fixed faster than it does now.

BECAUSE everyone stays tight-lipped either for fear of retribution, punishment or for more nefarious reasons, these things don't get fixed.

One guy or 100 guys doing something inline of 1,000,000 interactions a second is quite difficult to pinpoint. Everyone doing it is a sign.

Chelos

yodased wrote: »

Sorry to single you out @chelos I'm sure you are a wonderful person, but this is exactly what is wrong with the community in this and all games really.

No need to feel sorry I'm not offended.
I just look at things from a different angle. Of course in a way you are right. If everyone knew a lot more would complain.
The other side is, we all have seen how fast ZOS is fixing issues:
The Templar charging ability is broken, that's about 1/4th (roughly exaggerated ) has an important skill that it can hardly use, and that's an issue since release, probably beta.
So if everyone knew how to do it and it'll take two years+ to fix that would break PvP badly...

It's just an example how I lost faith in them.

Septimus_Magna

Ive seen people get into keeps like this, the thing I dont understand is why they do it.

It takes just as much time to siege down the postern house as it takes to siege down the postern wall.

Besides that, when they jump over the wall 1 by 1 its very easy to kill them because the group is split up for a while.

Skyy

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

Ive seen people get into keeps like this, the thing I dont understand is why they do it.

It takes just as much time to siege down the postern house as it takes to siege down the postern wall.

Besides that, when they jump over the wall 1 by 1 its very easy to kill them because the group is split up for a while.

I've never seen anyone bother to siege down the postern house without people sieging down the wall too, does it flag the keep that way?

Dalglish

Postern wall doesnt flag the keep so you can siege the inner; if you can do this as a big enough group it's impossible to defend against unless it's spotted early enough by another similar sized group.

Ghostbane

I smell glorious DKs

yodased

Well for that matter you could just 50/50 the castle with a big enough group and it's undefendable anyways.

That would be set up trebs close to the outer walls and bring the and outer to 51% then bring the inner to 51%. Pop the outer to 50% flag the keep and then draw all fire on the outer. Then draw all fire on the inner.

Keep gone minutes.

Or you could just use two balistas and a battering ram, keep gone <2 minutes.

Why people cheat to take keeps that aren't defended, when you can do it legitly just as easily I don't know.

frozywozy

Shameful to even consider doing this.

RiverDan

I won't post any details. But I know two of the guys doing it. They are doing it right now in Haderus. Yellow has taken over the whole map with their team using exploits. How the heck is that fair? ESO just need to have a few accounts and watch it happen. Cheating in video games pisses me off.
They are nightblades. I took screenshots of it happening.

Kartalin

dap_robertb16_ESO wrote: »

Aleswell has a spot (or had if they fixed it) where you don't need anything or anyone to get in. I think even if they did fix it it would still be possible. Glademist has some spots where you can still leap or chain your way in.

Yeah, it was fixed, they took the pillar away. I did manage to jump in once that way before it was gone, but it was not the easiest thing to do.

JaJaLuka wrote: »

There are actually quite a few ways to get into a keep still before the walls are knocked down. Some keeps are easier than others.

Yep