No need to invent a wheel

Anhedonie

Okay, free respec isn't happening. But what about just making it free forever?
Just hear me out. People still have to spend *** of money for equipment. I understand that game needs to have a gold sink, but there are plenty of them.

-Maelstrom arena (armor repairs cost a lot when you die to lagspikes and sudden oneshots)
-Armor crafting (tempers, kutas, nirncrux, etc)
-Ring of agility with robust trait (goes for over 180k)
-Other stuff (insert joke about price of your sex toy or something)

So, right now skill reset costs me about 15k and attribute reset cost for another 4-5k. And don't forget champion points redistribution (another 3k).

Making skill reset free will allow people to try something new more often. Because cookie cutter builds are getting old to be honest.

That's all I wanted to say, thank you.

Xellos77

I approve this thread.

harrlockk616

I agree also

Molag_Crow

Agreed.

Wollust

I think you don't understand what gold sink means. Buying materials and gear from other players is not a gold sink.

anitajoneb17_ESO

Number 2 and 3 of your list aren't gold sinks.

The reason people use cookie cutter builds is because of crowd's pressure and sheep-ish behavior. Not lack of ingame gold.

I think respecs should remain costly in order for choices to be meaningful. And also for an incentive to making alts - which will be easier once Veteran Ranks are removed.

Xendyn

Wollust wrote: »

I think you don't understand what gold sink means. Buying materials and gear from other players is not a gold sink.

This ^
Gold sinks take the gold entirely out of the economy, not just transfer it between players.

Molag_Crow

Still, changing champion points is a big gold sink. I have to change them between PvP and PvE.

Anhedonie

Xendyn wrote: »

Wollust wrote: »

I think you don't understand what gold sink means. Buying materials and gear from other players is not a gold sink.

This ^
Gold sinks take the gold entirely out of the economy, not just transfer it between players.

Okay,okay, I get it.

The point is game becomes a bit boring if you use the same build. To try another build you have to pay a lot of money. And some people don't have so much money, because they don't spend too much time in game. Because of that people get bored and leave this game.
imo.


P.S. I just opened 6 agility chests and got 1 arcane ring. ZO$, you *** kidding me.

FlicksZ

Anhedonie wrote: »

I agree. Seen it done before elsewhere and it worked wonders allowing more flexibility in gameplay across all game modes for the player base. With so many possible builds in a changing environment flexibility is quite key to enjoyment.

Gold sinks/the economy w/e although relevant should not be a reason to hold such a change back and can also be adjusted relatively easily. However there are resets in the CS which would play a bigger part in whether or not something like this got implemented.

The pulling power of play how you want in any game is very strong, the ability to and ease of actually doing so is generally even stronger.

OrphanHelgen

I sort of agree, but thats mostly because tooltips on skills and morphs are extremly bad! And since addons are a must if you want to test skills yourself, its madness that you have to pay to respec.

Sharee

Making a respec completely free promotes FOTM behavior, so i am against it (even tho i am not exactly rich in-game and often have to run dailies to get the money when i decide to respec).

tinythinker

How about...

- have the respec cost at shrines on a cool down like fast-traveling when not a wayshrine
- add a few generic non-horse mounts to what you can buy for gold at certain stables

The cool down for wayshrines could be however long ZOS thinks would keep people from abusing it. Severals days, some number of weeks. Thus the price would be much more reasonable unless you just keep respeccing, in which case you might want to just buy a respec scroll from the cash shop. Or get a sub, which would reduce the cool down. The new mounts would be few in number and again would not be as cool or sparkly as what you could get in the cash shop, and adding them to stables adds another gold sink.

Tandor

I'm not averse to the idea of having separate skillsets for PvE and PvP, but that's as far as I'd take it. There needs to be a high respec cost to provide both a gold sink and a meaning to speccing. For major skill changes in patches I'd have a respec token that could be used at the player's time of choosing.

Anhedonie

Tandor wrote: »

I'm not averse to the idea of having separate skillsets for PvE and PvP, but that's as far as I'd take it. There needs to be a high respec cost to provide both a gold sink and a meaning to speccing. For major skill changes in patches I'd have a respec token that could be used at the player's time of choosing.

In a perfect world we'd get a respec token after each big update.
Sadly, our world isn't perfect. I'm just trying to be realistic.

yodased

Molag_Crow wrote: »

Still, changing champion points is a big gold sink. I have to change them between PvP and PvE.

? Get moar!

Solariken

They don't have to be free, but a significant cost reduction would be very welcome. I'm a respec-oholic too, so I feel you.