Buying monster sets in TG

DrGr33nThumb

So uhh, it doesn't make sense that this games PvE is heading in the same direction as Destiny's... People have legitimately run WGT 30+ times to get a well-fitted off type Kena helmet , and now comes a vendor where anyone can all of a sudden just purchase it? That's not very neat...

To be fair, let people who haven't pvp'd buy their pvp skill lines / ranks for gold or set items.

Or even better, just don't add this vendor at all.

Thoughts?

LeglessUK

From what I've seen on PTS, it looks as if only 1 random monster helm and trait is on the vendor at any one time, for upto a period of a week. So it's not like you can just buy what you want, when you want, it could be weeks/months before the helm appears on the trader that you're actually looking for, and in the meantime, you may get the drop from a dungeon anyway...

Pangnirtung

And the people who haven't leveled crafting shouldn't buy experience pots.

And the people who haven't found rare glyphs shouldn't be able to buy them.

It doesn't matter to me if they are in the store or not. There are things that I earned in game and didn't buy that are available in the crown store and it hasn't changed how I play or enjoy the game.

DrGr33nThumb

Pangnirtung wrote: »

And the people who haven't leveled crafting shouldn't buy experience pots.

And the people who haven't found rare glyphs shouldn't be able to buy them.

It doesn't matter to me if they are in the store or not. There are things that I earned in game and didn't buy that are available in the crown store and it hasn't changed how I play or enjoy the game.

?????

crafted potions don't come close to veteran end bosses

nagarjunna

I've run Ash numerous times - by that I mean several hundred across multiple toons. Never picked up the Valkyn Skoria helm.

I'm not really a huge fan of this, however as a means to end this particular pain I do like the idea. I agree with @LeglessUK if only one helm a week that's cool.

Alucardo

This topic has been beaten to death.

DrGr33nThumb wrote: »

People have legitimately run WGT 30+ times to get a well-fitted off type Kena helmet , and now comes a vendor wh

This argument is fail. What about the PVPers who spent ages levelling skill lines, but in TG it's being reduced by a whopping 90% so people who don't PVP very often can pick up the skills quickly and move on with their life.

Face it, everyone is getting what they want so you need to stop complaining. I wasn't happy about the AP decrease, but I've made peace with that because both sides are getting something. Why can't you understand that?

Lava_Croft

Just accept the fact that the word 'effort' has no place in The Elder Skyrim Players Online.

DrGr33nThumb

Alucardo wrote: »

This topic has been beaten to death.

This argument is fail. What about the PVPers who spent ages levelling skill lines, but in TG it's being reduced by a whopping 90% so people who don't PVP very often can pick up the skills quickly and move on with their life.

Face it, everyone is getting what they want so you need to stop complaining. I wasn't happy about the AP decrease, but I've made peace with that because both sides are getting something. Why can't you understand that?

Whoops, I must have missed that part of the patch notes... did not know about the 90% ap reduction in ranks.. well ****

I must reconvene my thoughts on this

Taleof2Cities

DrGr33nThumb wrote: »

So uhh, it doesn't make sense that this games PvE is heading in the same direction as Destiny's... People have legitimately run WGT 30+ times to get a well-fitted off type Kena helmet , and now comes a vendor where anyone can all of a sudden just purchase it? That's not very neat...

To be fair, let people who haven't pvp'd buy their pvp skill lines / ranks for gold or set items.

Or even better, just don't add this vendor at all.

Thoughts?

Has Molag Kena even been confirmed as one of the rotating choices offered by the monster set vendor? Let's not get too ahead of ourselves, here.

When I looked the other day it was Mephala shoulders ... today it is Maw of the Infernal helm. Unless someone else can confirm, a Molag Kena offering is speculation at this point.

revonine

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

DrGr33nThumb wrote: »

So uhh, it doesn't make sense that this games PvE is heading in the same direction as Destiny's... People have legitimately run WGT 30+ times to get a well-fitted off type Kena helmet , and now comes a vendor where anyone can all of a sudden just purchase it? That's not very neat...

To be fair, let people who haven't pvp'd buy their pvp skill lines / ranks for gold or set items.

Or even better, just don't add this vendor at all.

Thoughts?

Has Molag Kena even been confirmed as one of the rotating choices offered by the monster set vendor? Let's not get too ahead of ourselves, here.

When I looked the other day it was Mephala shoulders ... today it is Maw of the Infernal helm. Unless someone else can confirm, a Molag Kena offering is speculation at this point.

Yanno since it's DLC, Lord Warden and Kena might not be since the vendor is a base game update. That or you must have the DLC bought to actually buy them. Could be the same with the new sets.

hammayolettuce

Are helms even available? when i logged on the first day it was just a shoulder...

Ghostbane

DrGr33nThumb wrote: »

So uhh, it doesn't make sense that this games PvE is heading in the same direction as Destiny's... People have legitimately run WGT 30+ times to get a well-fitted off type Kena helmet , and now comes a vendor where anyone can all of a sudden just purchase it? That's not very neat...

To be fair, let people who haven't pvp'd buy their pvp skill lines / ranks for gold or set items.

Or even better, just don't add this vendor at all.

Thoughts?

Here's a few thoughts.

The people who did every PvE related achievement before the Monster sets came into existence, that didn't get backlogged undaunted points, should be given a crate of Tullibardine 1952

The people who before the Champion System that did not get any back recorded XP converted should be given tax exemption for a year.

And then all the original bloody people who on multiple toons have worked their bloody butt to get to AR24, to get all the Assault and Support skills and passives, get a trip to the Moon.

Or even better, we can all wise up, and accept that dedicated PVPers deserve some opportunity to acquire monster items with their hard earned AP, and not through 30+ PVE runs.

I mean, there is 90% reduction for people to get Vigor now for their PVE baseball stam builds. Play fair and get off your high camel.

hammayolettuce

Ghostbane wrote: »

DrGr33nThumb wrote: »

So uhh, it doesn't make sense that this games PvE is heading in the same direction as Destiny's... People have legitimately run WGT 30+ times to get a well-fitted off type Kena helmet , and now comes a vendor where anyone can all of a sudden just purchase it? That's not very neat...

To be fair, let people who haven't pvp'd buy their pvp skill lines / ranks for gold or set items.

Or even better, just don't add this vendor at all.

Thoughts?

Here's a few thoughts.

The people who did every PvE related achievement before the Monster sets came into existence, that didn't get backlogged undaunted points, should be given a crate of Tullibardine 1952

The people who before the Champion System that did not get any back recorded XP converted should be given tax exemption for a year.

And then all the original bloody people who on multiple toons have worked their bloody butt to get to AR24, to get all the Assault and Support skills and passives, get a trip to the Moon.

Or even better, we can all wise up, and accept that dedicated PVPers deserve some opportunity to acquire monster items with their hard earned AP, and not through 30+ PVE runs.

I mean, there is 90% reduction for people to get Vigor now for their PVE baseball stam builds. Play fair and get off your high camel.

Amen.

TheValkyn

DrGr33nThumb wrote: »

So uhh, it doesn't make sense that this games PvE is heading in the same direction as Destiny's... People have legitimately run WGT 30+ times to get a well-fitted off type Kena helmet , and now comes a vendor where anyone can all of a sudden just purchase it? That's not very neat...

To be fair, let people who haven't pvp'd buy their pvp skill lines / ranks for gold or set items.

Or even better, just don't add this vendor at all.

Thoughts?

The vendor is a sporadic, limited time availability and it will be a random helm available. Read about how it works before you complain.

Ishammael

hammayolettuce wrote: »

Are helms even available? when i logged on the first day it was just a shoulder...

yes, helms are available.

Not sure which set of monster shoulders and helms will appear in the vendor though.

Pangnirtung

Where is this vendor?

Never mind. Found the vendor.

Ampnode

I don't see the crime in letting somebody wait for one random piece being put in the vendor a week at a time. By this, you're better off farming Undaunted.

hammayolettuce

Ampnode wrote: »

I don't see the crime in letting somebody wait for one random piece being put in the vendor a week at a time. By this, you're better off farming Undaunted.

It is set up to force people to still farm as they wait for the item in the store. I see nothing wrong with it like you stated.

NovaShadow

It's shoulders only people. No helms.

Get your facts straight before you QQ.

Still gotta run those dungeons for helms.

Ampnode

NovaShadow wrote: »

It's shoulders only people. No helms.

Get your facts straight before you QQ.

Still gotta run those dungeons for helms.

Yet there are helms in the vendors on the PTS now. Now... get your facts straight before posting, please.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2664135/#Comment_2664135

Alcast

DrGr33nThumb wrote: »

So uhh, it doesn't make sense that this games PvE is heading in the same direction as Destiny's... People have legitimately run WGT 30+ times to get a well-fitted off type Kena helmet , and now comes a vendor where anyone can all of a sudden just purchase it? That's not very neat...

To be fair, let people who haven't pvp'd buy their pvp skill lines / ranks for gold or set items.

Or even better, just don't add this vendor at all.

Thoughts?

200k is just way too low, it should cost like 1mil AP...

Lava_Croft

The cost seems a bit low, certainly when compared to buying regular PvP gear from the Cyrodiil vendors.

Alucardo

Alcast wrote: »

DrGr33nThumb wrote: »

So uhh, it doesn't make sense that this games PvE is heading in the same direction as Destiny's... People have legitimately run WGT 30+ times to get a well-fitted off type Kena helmet , and now comes a vendor where anyone can all of a sudden just purchase it? That's not very neat...

To be fair, let people who haven't pvp'd buy their pvp skill lines / ranks for gold or set items.

Or even better, just don't add this vendor at all.

Thoughts?

200k is just way too low, it should cost like 1mil AP...

Not everyone has 1mil lying around, especially more casual gamers. A better compromise would be 500-650k

Alucardo

Ampnode wrote: »

I don't see the crime in letting somebody wait for one random piece being put in the vendor a week at a time. By this, you're better off farming Undaunted.

Yeah, I reckon people will buy one piece they want, then when they are waiting for the cycle, continue to farm undaunted. If they don't drop it from that, there's always the safety net of being able to buy it in Cyrodiil. It's win-win for everyone.

NovaShadow

Ampnode wrote: »

NovaShadow wrote: »

It's shoulders only people. No helms.

Get your facts straight before you QQ.

Still gotta run those dungeons for helms.

Yet there are helms in the vendors on the PTS now. Now... get your facts straight before posting, please.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2664135/#Comment_2664135

I've checked it the past 3 days and haven't seen a single helm for sale.

revonine

I started on Console launch so i don't have millions banked like some PC players. Though when I heard about this vendor coming I made sure I had at least 1 million. It was not hard at all to save 1 million. Imagine my surprise when I saw the PTS costs. 200K is nothing. Especially with the AP changes coming.

Alucardo

revonine wrote: »

I started on Console launch so i don't have millions banked like some PC players. Though when I heard about this vendor coming I made sure I had at least 1 million. It was not hard at all to save 1 million. Imagine my surprise when I saw the PTS costs. 200K is nothing. Especially with the AP changes coming.

Imagine waiting a month for the cycle and spending 400k on the two pieces for your desired monster set just to find out it was kind of underwhelming. Now you have to wait another month or so and spend another 400k to buy another.
It all adds up. I think the price is pretty ok where it is now.

Wizzo91

Double the prices of Helmets. Keep the price of shoulders at 200k. Problem solved.

Alucardo

Wizzo91 wrote: »

Double the prices of Helmets. Keep the price of shoulders at 200k. Problem solved.

Nice compromise actually.

Alcast

Alucardo wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

DrGr33nThumb wrote: »

So uhh, it doesn't make sense that this games PvE is heading in the same direction as Destiny's... People have legitimately run WGT 30+ times to get a well-fitted off type Kena helmet , and now comes a vendor where anyone can all of a sudden just purchase it? That's not very neat...

To be fair, let people who haven't pvp'd buy their pvp skill lines / ranks for gold or set items.

Or even better, just don't add this vendor at all.

Thoughts?

200k is just way too low, it should cost like 1mil AP...

Not everyone has 1mil lying around, especially more casual gamers. A better compromise would be 500-650k

True that..tho you have to see, with the changes to AP gain.....you get 2K AP for a playerkill now..:AP will flow

krees28b14_ESO

NovaShadow wrote: »

Ampnode wrote: »

NovaShadow wrote: »

It's shoulders only people. No helms.

Get your facts straight before you QQ.

Still gotta run those dungeons for helms.

Yet there are helms in the vendors on the PTS now. Now... get your facts straight before posting, please.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2664135/#Comment_2664135

I've checked it the past 3 days and haven't seen a single helm for sale.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/245517/new-ap-vendor-does-sell-helms/p1

Check out the link in the third or fourth post. Obviously you were not looking very hard.