Thoughts on being allowed multiple characters on different factions on the same campaign

K4RMA

lolo_01b16_ESO

Depends. It is good for duelling or testing skills, but bad if you activly partivipate in the alliance war with both chars.

mr1sho

Bad

It's bad because 98% of the time people are just using them to cheat

NirnStorm

Bad

I think it is bad, since most people will use it in ways that would effect others in a negative way, such as:
Spying on other factions' zone chat, going on vengence hunts on people from their faction they don't like, farming AP on the winning faction's side instead of helping their faction push keeps etc.
More than all, it will pretty much destroy the whole concept of "loyalty to faction" that most people currently have in alliance war.
People will not feel the need to do all they can for their faction in a certain campaign as they do now, because they can so easily just switch toon and be on the winning side of it.

sadownik

Bad

The whole idea of 3 factions war in ESO is very badly designed. Not only you can have characters in different factions but what is worse i think you can be in guild with different factions. Its great from PvE point but in PvP it enables extremely easy exploiting by passing information and distracting activities of the faction (by stealing scrolls for example).

vamp_emily

Bad

I think its is very bad, I guess I have to learn to cheat and start stealing other alliances scrolls.

Rune_Relic

Bad

If you can only have one per campaign length of 30 days or so.....not really an issue.
If you can swap sides at the drop of a hat...people will be gaming the system left right and center.

I have no faith in ZOS to implement it in a way that people wouldn't exploit the arse out of it.
Sorry ZOS. Historical reality.

kevlarto_ESO

Bad

It diminishes the three faction warfare, no faction pride, no campaign pride, some people just switch to be on the winning team, plus I don't want to be fighting along side some one who just tried to kill me ten minutes ago, I do not like traitors.
The argument about playing with friends is bogus, if they are your friends play on the same campaign and faction, if you want to fight your friend use your guest campaign. I remember a story here in the forums about a emporer that was upset that some of their own faction went to their other faction alts to help dethrone them. It is bad.

Merlin13KAGL

Bad

Unless you lock out the Alt's for the remaining duration of the campaign, it's either used to spy, cheat, or just generally guarantee you're on the winning side regardless of the given circumstance.

EDIT: Funny that none of the 'Good' votes have explained why...

Alorier

Bad

Would just ruining campaigns unless they do as the above post^^^^^ lock them into that campaign for the duration

Emma_Overload

Good

mr1sho wrote: »

It's bad because 98% of the time people are just using them to cheat

I'm pretty sure that's not true. Many players barely care about PvP, they just want to manage their characters conveniently.

From a PvE grinder's point of view, it makes a lot of sense to have your characters from different factions on the same server. That way, even if one faction is dominating the map, you always have at least one toon that can get to IC easily.

Emma_Overload

Good

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Unless you lock out the Alt's for the remaining duration of the campaign, it's either used to spy, cheat, or just generally guarantee you're on the winning side regardless of the given circumstance.

EDIT: Funny that none of the 'Good' votes have explained why...

See my post above for an explanation. Why should IC sewer grinders be held hostage by the whims and vagaries of Cyrodiil combat? Imagine how bad it would suck if your EP toon was stuck on an AD dominated campaign while your AD toon was stuck on an EP dominated campaign... and there was no way to switch them up quickly!

Contrary to what many PvPers believe, not everybody cares what's going on in Cyrodiil, they just want to play the content they paid for without horse-riding 30 minutes through Gankerville.

myrrrorb14_ESO

Good

It's a non issue. Open up the gates and loose all restrictions. It will make it easier to group with friends and guilds and for those who like to dual.

There's work around for the locks anyway. Group queue or even more simply make a second account. In the end people will grief if they want to anyway. So just report them and move on.

Takes-No-Prisoner

It can be good or bad. Out of respect for the people that work hard for Yellows campaign on AS on PS4 NA, I keep my AD toons homed there. My other EP / DC toons, if I wanted to, I would home them in other campaigns. Again out of respect for the reds/blues I fight on AS. While I personally find it rude if someone has different allied characters on one campaign, I don't put my beliefs on them there is usually a reason they are doing it. I just do what I believe is the morally correct route.

Theodard

Good

Meh there's many ways to get into a campaign now even if you have different factions in there. Played against against a friend last night in Had. He on his DC and I on my AD, late last week we played in Had on our AD toons that are both homed there. It's not like it cannot happen already, and it really doesn't take any real effort.

ToRelax

Good

One can play on opposing factions with the same account in the same campaign anyway. Always could. The current system is nothing but an inconvenience, good it's being removed.

themdogesbite

Good

Its good, plenty of times i want to play a class thats on another faction and with this i wont need to deal with the hassle of getting in.

Erondil

Good

You should at least be able to take a campaign as guest when you have another char from another faction that has it as main. That way you can play with the char you want on any campaign (and play with the friends you want, from any faction) but you cant be on leaderboards of 2 faction nor can you always get the reward campaign's end of the winning faction (if anyone still care) so you better make your main faction win.

Chelos

Bad

They should have separated the fractions from the PvE gameplay.
Run around Tamriel and have "fun" at level 10 you get the mail to enroll.
There the character has to decide which fraction to join. Each character may well be in a different fraction but no two chars that are in different fractions may be in the same campaing.
Like changing campaigns you may only change fractions after the end of a term.

And it would be a cool thing that someone who changes fractions has a debuff for a while as noone trusts turncoats

TheRubiksCube

Good

If I still had my AD character, I would basically be limited in where I can go to get some actions since I have a lot of EP characters. And it would make dueling someone from the same faction easier.

I can understand that spying can happen, but that could still happen anyway since someone could group queue the spy in.

Duiwel

Bad

They should not have changed it this PvP system is the child of Guildwars 2 PvP ( regardless of what you think or ZoS say the 3 alliances in a "triangular map" is the same thing, the one just did it before the other... long before, hence it is the child thereof).

GW2 did not change anything and the World vs World thing is good because each side is it's own team. With the removal of the barrier between alliances there will be no loyalty / co-operation or team play.

Players will just jump on alts in opposing factions when one faction is losing instead of fighting hard to gain the upper hand they will just jump to the winning team.

Very badly planned idea about to be implemented.

Lava_Croft

Bad

The little resemblance of AvAvA ESO had left is firmly killed off by this latest change to appease the Skyrim players.

RAGUNAnoOne

Good

They are just going to get in anyways so why not. besides some people like me may have friends in more than one faction or be in a dueling guild so it will be easier to coordinate.

DjSolJAH

Bad

There's already enough campaign spying going on as it is since players can log into guest account to see where the opposing factions Zerg is. Once text chat is on consoles it will be REAL BAD because all you have do is read the chat to see where everyone is going and relay to home faction group leader.

Countless times I've seen the opposing factions #1 leaderboard player on my faction scouting and then all of a sudden we get cut off and they switch back to home faction character and take emperorship...

All this will do is cause one faction to take the map and then everyone will switch to another faction and take the map for the AP. There is no balance this way or faction loyalty.

Simple fix: faction lock for duration of campaign and make IC fast travel-able

LindsC

Good

It saves me the annoyance of having to switch to on just to set my campaign when I want to switch it. Cheating is already happening so I don't see the big deal. If people want to spy that bad they will always find a way

Etaniel

Good

In a perfect world I would say it's bad, but the game already allows you to create toons on multiple factions, allows you to chat with enemy faction players, to create cross faction guilds, to do cross faction dungeons, and change campaigns, so the whole faction pride etc never was really relevant. You don't need to be loyal to a faction for more than a campaign cycle, big time loyalty if you ask me.

We already join all campaigns by asking for taxies in all our guild chats, this change makes it less of a pain to actually go and find PvP. The majority of people in favor of this just want access to PvP, not access to spying and cheating

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

Good

I'd rather have the ability to change faction whenever you want to (weekly cooldown/high AP cost or loss of all AP on that char) as in ffxi but can't have everything.

gw2only1b14_ESO

Bad

Will just add to the players flooding the side thats not getting steam rolled and in all will kill most Vet Campaigns now since there will be 2 No cp campaigns Non vet and Vet those fair weathered turd stirrers wont bother on those so they will be full and playable.

Good luck in thoseother ones

Nafirian

Good

So i dont have to try and find a bloody que whenever i want to play my EP or DC

Asmael

Good

They should just prevent you from entering a campaign if you entered it less than an hour ago on an alt of an opposing faction however.

The current system is nonsensical, since you can just group with someone to enter a campaign, but can't go there on your own...

Weberda

I think it's really something ZOS has no choice in. For most PvP players there will be only two viable campaigns - Trueflame and Haderas. Old vets like myself have multiple toons in multiple campaigns and factions. Therefore it will be necessary to double up in one or the other campaign.