Official Discussion thread for "Thieves Guild Launch Details and New Video"

altemriel · January 2016

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

This is the official discussion thread for the blog article Thieves Guild Launch Details and New Video. Read the article for all the must-know Thieves Guild DLC game pack details for you, including features, pricing, release dates, and more!

"Trinimac: Received from Orsinium Daily Delve quests"!!!

oh, yeah!!!

altemriel · January 2016

Darkonflare15 wrote: »

The thieves guild style and Abah watch style are awesome looking. Even the Ra gada style is very majestic.

pics!!!

WhiteCoatSyndrome · January 2016

Six new crafting styles
Three Alliance Motifs: Found in chests in Cyrodiil and Imperial City
Malacath: Received from Orsinium Daily World Boss quests
Soul-Shriven: Received from completing the Cadwell's Silver quest (automatically granted to those who have completed this quest)
Trinimac: Received from Orsinium Daily Delve quests

Six?!!

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO · January 2016

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

Six new crafting styles
Three Alliance Motifs: Found in chests in Cyrodiil and Imperial City
Malacath: Received from Orsinium Daily World Boss quests
Soul-Shriven: Received from completing the Cadwell's Silver quest (automatically granted to those who have completed this quest)
Trinimac: Received from Orsinium Daily Delve quests

Six?!!

It's Awesome and all but when I read that I was like, OMG my crafter has to learn 6 more Motif's (he already finished cadwells silver), just when I was finally catching up now their are 6 more, lordy....ZOS knows how to keep you busy..

Plus all the Stealing Kotaro needs to do, his Guildees will never see him again..ok maybe they will

This one is so excited, he will plunder tombs and steal from the rich, he will escape guards, he will make lots of GOLD

altemriel · January 2016

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

Six new crafting styles
Three Alliance Motifs: Found in chests in Cyrodiil and Imperial City
Malacath: Received from Orsinium Daily World Boss quests
Soul-Shriven: Received from completing the Cadwell's Silver quest (automatically granted to those who have completed this quest)
Trinimac: Received from Orsinium Daily Delve quests

Six?!!

Trinimac motif!!!

hype hype!!!

DjSolJAH · January 2016

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom there seems to be a lot of controversy over "prioritization of animations." is this related to reducing lag caused by ability animations in cyrodiil or animation cancelling? I have read about AOE effects being reworked to groups but wonder where that fits and others say it is to thwart animation cancelling

GTech_1 · January 2016

altemriel wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

This is the official discussion thread for the blog article Thieves Guild Launch Details and New Video. Read the article for all the must-know Thieves Guild DLC game pack details for you, including features, pricing, release dates, and more!

"Trinimac: Received from Orsinium Daily Delve quests"!!!

oh, yeah!!!

I am stoked about this!
However, currently, we can only do one Orsinium delve daily per day, as opposed to 6 Orsinium world boss dailies.

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom
Will the Orsinium delve dailies be changed up, in order to match the current world boss daily setup, where it's possible to share the quest with your party?

My guild runs a large, and very fun, weekly event in Orsinium, and we would be *very* interested in loading up 6 delve quests, alongside the 6 world boss kills.

Thanks for any info,
~GTech_1, Chief of Unlimited

NBrookus · January 2016

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

Six new crafting styles
Three Alliance Motifs: Found in chests in Cyrodiil and Imperial City
Malacath: Received from Orsinium Daily World Boss quests
Soul-Shriven: Received from completing the Cadwell's Silver quest (automatically granted to those who have completed this quest)
Trinimac: Received from Orsinium Daily Delve quests

Six?!!

I really hope these aren't 14 chapters with rare RNG drops. (I still don't have 9 pages of Ancient Orc yet!). Nor fire starter common like Mercenary. Something along the lines of the purple motif drop rates would be good.

Thevampirenight · January 2016

I am wondering is there going to be something done to allow soul shriven skin to be worn with the other costumes from the crown store? I would like to be able to apply it and use it with say like the nordic hero costume as well? Is this being worked on?

Winchester1306 · January 2016

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

This is the official discussion thread for the blog article Thieves Guild Launch Details and New Video. Read the article for all the must-know Thieves Guild DLC game pack details for you, including features, pricing, release dates, and more!

Don't know if this has been said in another thread, but I will go ahead and say it regardless: Welcome back @ZOS_JessicaFolsom! Good to see you on the forums again - and hopefully, in ESO Live as well

altemriel · January 2016

DjSolJAH wrote: »

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom there seems to be a lot of controversy over "prioritization of animations." is this related to reducing lag caused by ability animations in cyrodiil or animation cancelling? I have read about AOE effects being reworked to groups but wonder where that fits and others say it is to thwart animation cancelling

animation cancelling stays fortunatelly, it is just some animation fix

Cinbri · January 2016

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

Six new crafting styles
Three Alliance Motifs: Found in chests in Cyrodiil and Imperial City
Malacath: Received from Orsinium Daily World Boss quests
Soul-Shriven: Received from completing the Cadwell's Silver quest (automatically granted to those who have completed this quest)
Trinimac: Received from Orsinium Daily Delve quests

Six?!!

Not 6 but 7. Oultaw crafting style in DLC.

Hyphastion · January 2016

Any chance of the "Assassins Guild" coming along this DLC too ? or will it be in another ? I saw some video where after it ended was the blood-palm and the "we know" note which taunted he "Assassins Guild" just like the the Dark Brotherhood from Skyrim.

So, any chance the Dark Brotherhood and an Assassin skill tree arrive on this one as well ? I really would love to poison my arrows/blade and have new skills !!

Elsonso · January 2016

DjSolJAH wrote: »

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom there seems to be a lot of controversy over "prioritization of animations." is this related to reducing lag caused by ability animations in cyrodiil or animation cancelling? I have read about AOE effects being reworked to groups but wonder where that fits and others say it is to thwart animation cancelling

From everything they said, this is probably the most boring change in the whole update. Most people probably will not even know about it, and those that do may not even notice it. My read of this says all they are going to do is make sure that whatever animation they feel people should see is the one that plays (priority) instead of just the last one, or a rapid cycling through all of them. Animations of a lower priority will not play if a higher priority animation is already playing.

Edit: You could look at it as them taking the next step in improving the visual effect of Animation Canceling, which could be viewed as them making Animation Canceling look better when it is done.

Darlgon · January 2016

@ZOS_RichLambert

Looks.. interesting.

However, if we have timeline problem. I thought the production schedule was a DLC every quarter? With the standard four weeks on PTS, that puts Theives Guild launch on or near 4/4/2016. Orsinium released 11/2/2015, the difference is FIVE months. So,,, care to revise the DLC release schedule to a more realistic twice a year?

Cuyler · January 2016

A few trial related questions @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GinaBruno :

1. Will the trial leaderboards remain character based in the TG DLC? Is there any plans to go to a team based ranking or an account based ranking?

Participation is expected to increase significantly and the current leaderboard system fills the first 50-75 spots quickly with only a few regular teams and their Alts.

2. Will v16 MOL gear have a chance to drop in the weekly rewards from AA, HRC and SO?

3. Are vDSA weekly rewards being scaled to v16 as well?

4. Will the weekly rewards from AA, HRC and SO include scaled v16 versions of older sets? for example Silks of the Sun or Warlock's.

5. What is the lowest level the new trial will scale to? v1 or lower?

6. What the 3 new craftable sets? how many traits? Where do we get style material?

7. What are the new "PVE group based" bonus sets?

KleanZlate · January 2016

"Guild Job Quests: Kari, a precise Nord woman who keeps accounts of the guild's finances, as well as accounts of information and rumors runs the Guild Job Board.
Travel all around Tamriel doing jobs for the Thieves Guild. These include pickpocketing, unlocking safeboxes, gathering items for consignment requests, and more.

Heist Quests: Find Fa'ren-dar, a tough male Khajiit who works on the far side of the Den, near the sewer drain exit. He runs the Heist Board.
Thieves Guild heists require sneaking, avoiding traps, and getting in and out of special instanced heist areas with your prize—earn special bonuses for completing the heists undetected and within the time limit!"

Can't wait to try these out! Especially the heists!! Hopefully we'll also get similar assassins missions when the AG dlc comes out.

Mcwoods55 · January 2016

Cinbri wrote: »

So exact pts date will be announced on tomorrow ESO Live? Wonder about Soul-Shriven: is it new craftable style too or just skin, granted for completing Cadwell?

what if you have already completed it? Hopefully they honor that as well....

KleanZlate · January 2016

Mcwoods55 wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

So exact pts date will be announced on tomorrow ESO Live? Wonder about Soul-Shriven: is it new craftable style too or just skin, granted for completing Cadwell?

what if you have already completed it? Hopefully they honor that as well....

Yup, they stated in the notes that characters that have finished Cadwells silver will be granted the motif.

Elsonso · January 2016

Darlgon wrote: »

@ZOS_RichLambert

Wow.. did you guys even play Skyrim? RIften had an entire Thieves Guild storyline. You pointed the Nightengales, the ASSASSINS GUILD/Dark Brotherhood in the video.

Otherwise, looks.. interesting.

However, if we have timeline problem. I thought the production schedule was a DLC every quarter? With the standard four weeks on PTS, that puts Theives Guild launch on or near 4/4/2016. Orsinium released 11/2/2015, the difference is FIVE months. So,,, care to revise the DLC release schedule to a more realistic twice a year?

I suspect you have identified an Editing mistake. I think they recorded the Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood content at the same time.

They gave the release dates for Thieves' Guild and they are all in March. That is first quarter.

ZOS_GinaBruno · January 2016

DjSolJAH wrote: »

there seems to be a lot of controversy over "prioritization of animations." is this related to reducing lag caused by ability animations in cyrodiil or animation cancelling? I have read about AOE effects being reworked to groups but wonder where that fits and others say it is to thwart animation cancelling

The prioritization of animations is strictly a visual improvement for when you're in combat in the sense that you'll be able to see the impact effects of abilities when they are being weaved, and has no affect on performance. Any performance changes we're making are separate from this effort.

Enodoc · January 2016

Darlgon wrote: »

ZOS_RichLambert

Wow.. did you guys even play Skyrim? RIften had an entire Thieves Guild storyline. You pointed the Nightengales, the ASSASSINS GUILD/Dark Brotherhood in the video.

Otherwise, looks.. interesting.

However, if we have timeline problem. I thought the production schedule was a DLC every quarter? With the standard four weeks on PTS, that puts Theives Guild launch on or near 4/4/2016. Orsinium released 11/2/2015, the difference is FIVE months. So,,, care to revise the DLC release schedule to a more realistic twice a year?

@Darlgon Naw, the Dark Brotherhood storyline in Skyrim was all about the Penitus Oculatus and the Emperor. As Rich said, the Thieves Guild in Skyrim was the Nightingales and Mercer Frey.

Thieves Guild launch is 7th March, which is definitely within the first quarter. With 4 weeks of PTS, that puts it first appearing on PTS around 8th Feb. Remember they said one DLC every quarter, not one DLC every 3 months. Quarters are defined periods of time that are three months in length, not any successive period of three months. IC came out at the end of Q3, Orsinium came out in the middle of Q4, and Thieves Guild is due at the end of Q1. That's one every quarter, just as they said.

Darlgon · January 2016

Enodoc wrote: »

Darlgon wrote: »

ZOS_RichLambert

Wow.. did you guys even play Skyrim? RIften had an entire Thieves Guild storyline. You pointed the Nightengales, the ASSASSINS GUILD/Dark Brotherhood in the video.

Otherwise, looks.. interesting.

However, if we have timeline problem. I thought the production schedule was a DLC every quarter? With the standard four weeks on PTS, that puts Theives Guild launch on or near 4/4/2016. Orsinium released 11/2/2015, the difference is FIVE months. So,,, care to revise the DLC release schedule to a more realistic twice a year?

@Darlgon Naw, the Dark Brotherhood storyline in Skyrim was all about the Penitus Oculatus and the Emperor. As Rich said, the Thieves Guild in Skyrim was the Nightingales and Mercer Frey.

Thieves Guild launch is 7th March, which is definitely within the first quarter. With 4 weeks of PTS, that puts it first appearing on PTS around 8th Feb. Remember they said one DLC every quarter, not one DLC every 3 months. Quarters are defined periods of time that are three months in length, not any successive period of three months. IC came out at the end of Q3, Orsinium came out in the middle of Q4, and Thieves Guild is due at the end of Q1. That's one every quarter, just as they said.

Nope, you are right. I screwed up my lore.. Dang it.

Edited to remove my stupidity on the first point. The second still stands.

And Q1 is January thru March.. RELEASE.

Paulington · January 2016

Enodoc wrote: »

Darlgon wrote: »

ZOS_RichLambert

Wow.. did you guys even play Skyrim? RIften had an entire Thieves Guild storyline. You pointed the Nightengales, the ASSASSINS GUILD/Dark Brotherhood in the video.

Otherwise, looks.. interesting.

However, if we have timeline problem. I thought the production schedule was a DLC every quarter? With the standard four weeks on PTS, that puts Theives Guild launch on or near 4/4/2016. Orsinium released 11/2/2015, the difference is FIVE months. So,,, care to revise the DLC release schedule to a more realistic twice a year?

@Darlgon Naw, the Dark Brotherhood storyline in Skyrim was all about the Penitus Oculatus and the Emperor. As Rich said, the Thieves Guild in Skyrim was the Nightingales and Mercer Frey.

Thieves Guild launch is 7th March, which is definitely within the first quarter. With 4 weeks of PTS, that puts it first appearing on PTS around 8th Feb. Remember they said one DLC every quarter, not one DLC every 3 months. Quarters are defined periods of time that are three months in length, not any successive period of three months. IC came out at the end of Q3, Orsinium came out in the middle of Q4, and Thieves Guild is due at the end of Q1. That's one every quarter, just as they said.

Spot on @Enodoc except for the PTS date. ZOS have said natch potes next week, PTS always gets updated Monday/Tuesday and 02/02/2016 to 01/03/2016 is the most likely "test" period (28 days) with the last few days leading up to March 7th rounding off the month.

Here's hoping!

Ghost-Shot · January 2016

Darlgon wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Darlgon wrote: »

ZOS_RichLambert

Wow.. did you guys even play Skyrim? RIften had an entire Thieves Guild storyline. You pointed the Nightengales, the ASSASSINS GUILD/Dark Brotherhood in the video.

Otherwise, looks.. interesting.

However, if we have timeline problem. I thought the production schedule was a DLC every quarter? With the standard four weeks on PTS, that puts Theives Guild launch on or near 4/4/2016. Orsinium released 11/2/2015, the difference is FIVE months. So,,, care to revise the DLC release schedule to a more realistic twice a year?

@Darlgon Naw, the Dark Brotherhood storyline in Skyrim was all about the Penitus Oculatus and the Emperor. As Rich said, the Thieves Guild in Skyrim was the Nightingales and Mercer Frey.

Thieves Guild launch is 7th March, which is definitely within the first quarter. With 4 weeks of PTS, that puts it first appearing on PTS around 8th Feb. Remember they said one DLC every quarter, not one DLC every 3 months. Quarters are defined periods of time that are three months in length, not any successive period of three months. IC came out at the end of Q3, Orsinium came out in the middle of Q4, and Thieves Guild is due at the end of Q1. That's one every quarter, just as they said.

Nope, you are right. I screwed up my lore.. Dang it.

Edited to remove my stupidity on the first point. The second still stands.

And Q1 is January thru March.. RELEASE.

The release date is March 7th, how does the point stand? Even if they don't release till March 31st its still Q1.

Darlgon · January 2016

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Darlgon wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Darlgon wrote: »

ZOS_RichLambert

Wow.. did you guys even play Skyrim? RIften had an entire Thieves Guild storyline. You pointed the Nightengales, the ASSASSINS GUILD/Dark Brotherhood in the video.

Otherwise, looks.. interesting.

However, if we have timeline problem. I thought the production schedule was a DLC every quarter? With the standard four weeks on PTS, that puts Theives Guild launch on or near 4/4/2016. Orsinium released 11/2/2015, the difference is FIVE months. So,,, care to revise the DLC release schedule to a more realistic twice a year?

@Darlgon Naw, the Dark Brotherhood storyline in Skyrim was all about the Penitus Oculatus and the Emperor. As Rich said, the Thieves Guild in Skyrim was the Nightingales and Mercer Frey.

Thieves Guild launch is 7th March, which is definitely within the first quarter. With 4 weeks of PTS, that puts it first appearing on PTS around 8th Feb. Remember they said one DLC every quarter, not one DLC every 3 months. Quarters are defined periods of time that are three months in length, not any successive period of three months. IC came out at the end of Q3, Orsinium came out in the middle of Q4, and Thieves Guild is due at the end of Q1. That's one every quarter, just as they said.

Nope, you are right. I screwed up my lore.. Dang it.

Edited to remove my stupidity on the first point. The second still stands.

And Q1 is January thru March.. RELEASE.

The release date is March 7th, how does the point stand? Even if they don't release till March 31st its still Q1.

NM. Apparently I cant read today.

Elsonso · January 2016

Enodoc wrote: »

Darlgon wrote: »

ZOS_RichLambert

Wow.. did you guys even play Skyrim? RIften had an entire Thieves Guild storyline. You pointed the Nightengales, the ASSASSINS GUILD/Dark Brotherhood in the video.

Otherwise, looks.. interesting.

However, if we have timeline problem. I thought the production schedule was a DLC every quarter? With the standard four weeks on PTS, that puts Theives Guild launch on or near 4/4/2016. Orsinium released 11/2/2015, the difference is FIVE months. So,,, care to revise the DLC release schedule to a more realistic twice a year?

@Darlgon Naw, the Dark Brotherhood storyline in Skyrim was all about the Penitus Oculatus and the Emperor. As Rich said, the Thieves Guild in Skyrim was the Nightingales and Mercer Frey.

Wow. I was with Darlgon in that I distinctly thought the "Nightingale" was not Thieves' Guild in Skyrim when I heard that reference in the video. lol. I guess Rich knows Skyrim better than I do.

MeHodor · January 2016

Hi guys,

How will the New Thieves Guild passives fit in with the current Legerdemain passives?

There seems to be a lot of scope for duplication.

Will the download allow another resetting of the skill set ?

Thanks for the great DLC so far.

Ilsabet · January 2016

Hyphastion wrote: »

Any chance of the "Assassins Guild" coming along this DLC too ? or will it be in another ? I saw some video where after it ended was the blood-palm and the "we know" note which taunted he "Assassins Guild" just like the the Dark Brotherhood from Skyrim.

So, any chance the Dark Brotherhood and an Assassin skill tree arrive on this one as well ? I really would love to poison my arrows/blade and have new skills !!

Dark Brotherhood will be the next DLC after Thieves Guild, coming in Q2 this year.

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO · January 2016

better link for Trinimac Armors Concept Art pic,

link to find it- http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/elderscrolls/images/0/01/Trinimac_Armors_Concept_Art.png