Concern about crafting bag

RAGUNAnoOne

I heard that they are planning on adding crafting bags to ESO plus members but I have one concern about that, what if you have to drop your subscription temporary especially if you don't have room in your inventory to take the items, do you loose everything inside?

Xeniph

I'm sure you would just lose the ability to put anything in it, but would not be restricted on withdrawals.

But it's a valid question.

It may be too early for any confirmations but it's worth a shot. @ZOS_GinaBruno

Lenikus

Nah, you'd probably just get a full inventory with like 210/195, and you can't grab anything more, you can only drop items. Or maybe the items will be "stuck" inside, wich i believe is the best alternative. (Hostage items are best incentive for subs)

GreenSoup2HoT

I would think you just can't place any more item's into the bag once your subscription is over. However once you take start to take item's out, they cannot go back in. This would be the best way to handle it i think.

Gidorick

I've posted this before... But I REALLY hope they are simply PURCHASABLE only by ESO+ members. Put them in an ESO+ store. Charge like.. I dunno... 1000 Crowns per crafting bag (different bags or different crafts) and call it a day. If I subscribe and decide to spend 6K crowns for all the bags then unsubscribe... then ZOS will have gotten their money from me.

After I unsub, I would still have full use of the bags.

Valrien

Gidorick wrote: »

I've posted this before... But I REALLY hope they are simply PURCHASABLE only by ESO+ members. Put them in an ESO+ store. Charge like.. I dunno... 1000 Crowns per crafting bag (different bags or different crafts) and call it a day. If I subscribe and decide to spend 6K crowns for all the bags then unsubscribe... then ZOS will have gotten their money from me.

After I unsub, I would still have full use of the bags.

As a consumer this is a good idea, but the crafting bags are supposed to incentivize keeping up the sub, not just paying for it one and done. They want to keep the subscriptions going, and it's currently lacking benefits right now.

Gidorick

Valrien wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

I've posted this before... But I REALLY hope they are simply PURCHASABLE only by ESO+ members. Put them in an ESO+ store. Charge like.. I dunno... 1000 Crowns per crafting bag (different bags or different crafts) and call it a day. If I subscribe and decide to spend 6K crowns for all the bags then unsubscribe... then ZOS will have gotten their money from me.

After I unsub, I would still have full use of the bags.

As a consumer this is a good idea, but the crafting bags are supposed to incentivize keeping up the sub, not just paying for it one and done. They want to keep the subscriptions going, and it's currently lacking benefits right now.

Yea... almost a year ago I posted this thread: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/150450/eso-subscription-benefits-suggestions/p1

There are many things they can do to incentivize the sub. Holding the inventory hostage shouldn't be one of them.

One gamer's opinion.

That being said. I am glad they're adding incentives to the ESO+ Sub... This just isn't the thing that will get ME to re-sub UNLESS it's to access an ESO+ section of the Crown Store.

Volkodav

I've heard that you cant put anything more into them when you unsub. So that eventually,when you have taken everything out of it,you cant use it again.

Volkodav

Gidorick wrote: »

I've posted this before... But I REALLY hope they are simply PURCHASABLE only by ESO+ members. Put them in an ESO+ store. Charge like.. I dunno... 1000 Crowns per crafting bag (different bags or different crafts) and call it a day. If I subscribe and decide to spend 6K crowns for all the bags then unsubscribe... then ZOS will have gotten their money from me.

After I unsub, I would still have full use of the bags.

That wouldnt help keep people subbed though.Anyone could sub,get the bags,and unsub.They shouldnt put them in the store at all as they are meant to be for ESO+ people.I dont begrudge people who dont sub anything,but if you put something out to get people to sub,you want them to stay subbed.

istateres

Volkodav wrote: »

I've heard that you cant put anything more into them when you unsub. So that eventually,when you have taken everything out of it,you cant use it again.

That doesn't seem right. Why not just have everything in your bags be mailed to you if your subscription runs out?

ADarklore

Gidorick wrote: »

I've posted this before... But I REALLY hope they are simply PURCHASABLE only by ESO+ members. Put them in an ESO+ store. Charge like.. I dunno... 1000 Crowns per crafting bag (different bags or different crafts) and call it a day. If I subscribe and decide to spend 6K crowns for all the bags then unsubscribe... then ZOS will have gotten their money from me.

After I unsub, I would still have full use of the bags.

There won't be multiple bags because it is an 'unlimited material storage' bag... so there will be only ONE crafting bag because of the unlimited capacity.

Zinaroth

I hope they make the subscriber only and then if you subscription runs out you can still withdraw items from the bags but not deposit anymore. That would make the most sense to me.

Most likely though, they will just be placed in the crown store only, as a means for generating money from more people.

Volkodav

istateres wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

I've heard that you cant put anything more into them when you unsub. So that eventually,when you have taken everything out of it,you cant use it again.

That doesn't seem right. Why not just have everything in your bags be mailed to you if your subscription runs out?

That would work!

ADarklore

Zinaroth wrote: »

I hope they make the subscriber only and then if you subscription runs out you can still withdraw items from the bags but not deposit anymore. That would make the most sense to me.

Most likely though, they will just be placed in the crown store only, as a means for generating money from more people.

This would not make sense because then what would be their purpose of making it ESO+ to add further subscription incentive but then also put it in the store. I could see them adding 'limited capacity' material bags, but the unlimited will remain an ESO+ exclusive I'm betting.

willymchilybily

i suspect it'll be like being kicked from a trading guild with stuff up for auction. (because that game mechanic is already coded)

so you will get the materials in the mail

RAGUNAnoOne

Gidorick wrote: »

I've posted this before... But I REALLY hope they are simply PURCHASABLE only by ESO+ members. Put them in an ESO+ store. Charge like.. I dunno... 1000 Crowns per crafting bag (different bags or different crafts) and call it a day. If I subscribe and decide to spend 6K crowns for all the bags then unsubscribe... then ZOS will have gotten their money from me.

After I unsub, I would still have full use of the bags.

@Gidorick How about this: it gives you 15 spaces to start and each month when you get your monthly crowns it increases by 10.

BabeestorGor

ADarklore wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

I've posted this before... But I REALLY hope they are simply PURCHASABLE only by ESO+ members. Put them in an ESO+ store. Charge like.. I dunno... 1000 Crowns per crafting bag (different bags or different crafts) and call it a day. If I subscribe and decide to spend 6K crowns for all the bags then unsubscribe... then ZOS will have gotten their money from me.

After I unsub, I would still have full use of the bags.

There won't be multiple bags because it is an 'unlimited material storage' bag... so there will be only ONE crafting bag because of the unlimited capacity.

I really hope theres a better way to sort things than bank and bags have.
The materials tab of my bank is by far the longest and thats with my crafters keeping most of the materials they use on their persons.

UrQuan

Volkodav wrote: »

istateres wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

I've heard that you cant put anything more into them when you unsub. So that eventually,when you have taken everything out of it,you cant use it again.

That doesn't seem right. Why not just have everything in your bags be mailed to you if your subscription runs out?

That would work!

I don't think it would. They've said that the crafting bags hold unlimited crafting mats. If people have hundreds of stacks of mats in there (which isn't all that unlikely - I know I will when I get mine) then that could be over a hundred mails coming to you, which would overload your inbox instantly, and prevent you from receiving any other mail (or even from receiving all of this mail) until you've cleared your inbox - which you can't do until you've taken all of those stacks of mats out of each individual mail. It seems unlikely that someone with a ton of stuff in their crafting bag would be able to hold all of it in their inventory, so you've now broken somebody's mail and prevented them from receiving any other mail until they can find a way to get rid of all that stuff.

I think it's much more likely to work the way a guild bank works when the guild drops below the minimum number of members to have a bank. Everything in there stays in there and you can still withdraw, but you can't deposit anything to it until you qualify for it again (by resubscribing).

Volkodav

UrQuan wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

istateres wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

I've heard that you cant put anything more into them when you unsub. So that eventually,when you have taken everything out of it,you cant use it again.

That doesn't seem right. Why not just have everything in your bags be mailed to you if your subscription runs out?

That would work!

I don't think it would. They've said that the crafting bags hold unlimited crafting mats. If people have hundreds of stacks of mats in there (which isn't all that unlikely - I know I will when I get mine) then that could be over a hundred mails coming to you, which would overload your inbox instantly, and prevent you from receiving any other mail (or even from receiving all of this mail) until you've cleared your inbox - which you can't do until you've taken all of those stacks of mats out of each individual mail. It seems unlikely that someone with a ton of stuff in their crafting bag would be able to hold all of it in their inventory, so you've now broken somebody's mail and prevented them from receiving any other mail until they can find a way to get rid of all that stuff.

I think it's much more likely to work the way a guild bank works when the guild drops below the minimum number of members to have a bank. Everything in there stays in there and you can still withdraw, but you can't deposit anything to it until you qualify for it again (by resubscribing).

I know,dear.You want to sub for a month to get your bags only to unsub and expect to keep them. We dont agree,do we. :}
(no disrespect here)

Lightninvash

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

I heard that they are planning on adding crafting bags to ESO plus members but I have one concern about that, what if you have to drop your subscription temporary especially if you don't have room in your inventory to take the items, do you loose everything inside?

this is one heck of a good question T.T we don't wna lose our hard earned mats (when I say we I mean everyone else since I barely have any good mats)

UrQuan

Volkodav wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

istateres wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

I've heard that you cant put anything more into them when you unsub. So that eventually,when you have taken everything out of it,you cant use it again.

That doesn't seem right. Why not just have everything in your bags be mailed to you if your subscription runs out?

That would work!

I don't think it would. They've said that the crafting bags hold unlimited crafting mats. If people have hundreds of stacks of mats in there (which isn't all that unlikely - I know I will when I get mine) then that could be over a hundred mails coming to you, which would overload your inbox instantly, and prevent you from receiving any other mail (or even from receiving all of this mail) until you've cleared your inbox - which you can't do until you've taken all of those stacks of mats out of each individual mail. It seems unlikely that someone with a ton of stuff in their crafting bag would be able to hold all of it in their inventory, so you've now broken somebody's mail and prevented them from receiving any other mail until they can find a way to get rid of all that stuff.

I think it's much more likely to work the way a guild bank works when the guild drops below the minimum number of members to have a bank. Everything in there stays in there and you can still withdraw, but you can't deposit anything to it until you qualify for it again (by resubscribing).

I know,dear.You want to sub for a month to get your bags only to unsub and expect to keep them. We dont agree,do we. :}
(no disrespect here)

Well that's condescending (putting a little "no disrespect here" disclaimer doesn't make it any less disrespectful or condescending) and flat-out false. I've been a subscriber non-stop since launch day on PC. But please, tell me more about how I just want to sub for a month and then unsub.

Volkodav

UrQuan wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

istateres wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

I've heard that you cant put anything more into them when you unsub. So that eventually,when you have taken everything out of it,you cant use it again.

That doesn't seem right. Why not just have everything in your bags be mailed to you if your subscription runs out?

That would work!

I don't think it would. They've said that the crafting bags hold unlimited crafting mats. If people have hundreds of stacks of mats in there (which isn't all that unlikely - I know I will when I get mine) then that could be over a hundred mails coming to you, which would overload your inbox instantly, and prevent you from receiving any other mail (or even from receiving all of this mail) until you've cleared your inbox - which you can't do until you've taken all of those stacks of mats out of each individual mail. It seems unlikely that someone with a ton of stuff in their crafting bag would be able to hold all of it in their inventory, so you've now broken somebody's mail and prevented them from receiving any other mail until they can find a way to get rid of all that stuff.

I think it's much more likely to work the way a guild bank works when the guild drops below the minimum number of members to have a bank. Everything in there stays in there and you can still withdraw, but you can't deposit anything to it until you qualify for it again (by resubscribing).

I know,dear.You want to sub for a month to get your bags only to unsub and expect to keep them. We dont agree,do we. :}
(no disrespect here)

Well that's condescending (putting a little "no disrespect here" disclaimer doesn't make it any less disrespectful or condescending) and flat-out false. I've been a subscriber non-stop since launch day on PC. But please, tell me more about how I just want to sub for a month and then unsub.

Oh,quit! I cant even joke with you?? Jesus,dude. I didnt think you would be one of those types.I thought you were more solid.Whyever would I be mean to you? For what?? I like you tons!!
Teach ME a lesson,this did.

Gelston

They'll probably work exactly like guild banks when they drop below 10 members. You can withdraw but not add back into.

Taleof2Cities

BabeestorGor wrote: »

I really hope theres a better way to sort things than bank and bags have.
The materials tab of my bank is by far the longest and thats with my crafters keeping most of the materials they use on their persons.

There is a very popular add-on on ESOUI "Advanced Filters" which helps organize materials into different categories. If you don't have an aversion to add-ons, give it a try.

But, yes, there seems to be little purpose in subscribing to ESO+ for one month and then dumping the subscription once the crafting bag is obtained ... which is freeloading in my opinion. Maybe the 100+ e-mails of returned mats is a good incentive for players to not unsubscribe.

Volkodav

Forgive me,people.I was joking with someone that I shouldnt have joked with.I didnt realize this,but will be more careful in the future. :}

vamp_emily

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

I heard that they are planning on adding crafting bags to ESO plus members but I have one concern about that, what if you have to drop your subscription temporary especially if you don't have room in your inventory to take the items, do you loose everything inside?

You won't lose everything. All your inventory will be held in a volt ( storage ) and kept there till you decided to renew your subscription.

UrQuan

Volkodav wrote: »

Forgive me,people.I was joking with someone that I shouldnt have joked with.I didnt realize this,but will be more careful in the future. :}

Didn't look like a joke to me (which might be partly due to my sense of humour being impaired by a migraine at the moment), but no harm no foul. It's all good. *thumbs up*

Sausage

If they wanna get people subbed, add new crafting set to the game and when housing comes put somekind of offline progression to go with it. I know new console players are starting to reach trait 9 so it'd be perfect time to introduce new crafting sets.