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AngryNord
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Based on all the QQ threads about making everything account wide, it seems nobody actually want to play this game anymore, so why keep levels? Why not just let everyone start at v16 with 501 CP and emperor status, then maybe we might finally get rid of the QQ...
  • Dread_Guy
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    You're wrong. People will still qq about nightblades and sorc shields
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    You're wrong. People will still qq about nightblades and sorc shields

    Oh yeah, I forgot, I guess we need to remove skills from the game too. Damn.
  • Danny231
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    AngryNord wrote: »
    You're wrong. People will still qq about nightblades and sorc shields

    Oh yeah, I forgot, I guess we need to remove skills from the game too. Damn.

    No, to be honest with you the game, right now is really good I don't see them doing this... After all the hard work they have done.
  • Wolfshead
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    Well account wide achievements for example is not a new concept all MMO. To have achievements are account bound honest it will benefit the player more to keep continue complete those achievements but as it now in ESO everytime you start a new char you have redo all achievements again which basically is really boring and i personally think is stupid concept.

    I know i have talk about account bound recipe for craft and honest the time i spend on my main to get all the recipe i want im honest not go to do with any of my alt every again why you may ask well simple put "been there done that" for i just want to play with alt and dont worry about that i need farm place again and again just get same recipe i already have.

    I would understand this concept that we have today with if repcie if we could not all have same carft i would understand if we only could have 1 carft skill and 1 farming skill but if all player and char can all have same carft skills and farming skills what is point of having separated recipe?
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    Also I'd advise some players to remove their heads. For...you know, comfortable playing expirience.
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  • AngryNord
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    Danny231 wrote: »
    AngryNord wrote: »
    You're wrong. People will still qq about nightblades and sorc shields

    Oh yeah, I forgot, I guess we need to remove skills from the game too. Damn.

    No, to be honest with you the game, right now is really good I don't see them doing this... After all the hard work they have done.

    Oh I completely agree with you, but irony and sarcasm seems hard for some people to grasp...
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    AngryNord wrote: »
    Danny231 wrote: »
    AngryNord wrote: »
    You're wrong. People will still qq about nightblades and sorc shields

    Oh yeah, I forgot, I guess we need to remove skills from the game too. Damn.

    No, to be honest with you the game, right now is really good I don't see them doing this... After all the hard work they have done.

    Oh I completely agree with you, but irony and sarcasm seems hard for some people to grasp...

    People only see statements on the internet as black and white. The racists...
    "My name is Julius Decimus Heraclius, Guildmaster of the Scions of the Sun, Brigadier of the Covenant Army, loyal servant to the High King Emeric. Brother to a betrayed legion, son to a fallen empire. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next." ---Julius Decimus Heraclius (Imperial Templar)
  • Danny231
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    AngryNord wrote: »
    Danny231 wrote: »
    AngryNord wrote: »
    You're wrong. People will still qq about nightblades and sorc shields

    Oh yeah, I forgot, I guess we need to remove skills from the game too. Damn.

    No, to be honest with you the game, right now is really good I don't see them doing this... After all the hard work they have done.

    Oh I completely agree with you, but irony and sarcasm seems hard for some people to grasp...

    People only see statements on the internet as black and white. The racists...

    What is that sopossed to mean?
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    Danny231 wrote: »
    AngryNord wrote: »
    Danny231 wrote: »
    AngryNord wrote: »
    You're wrong. People will still qq about nightblades and sorc shields

    Oh yeah, I forgot, I guess we need to remove skills from the game too. Damn.

    No, to be honest with you the game, right now is really good I don't see them doing this... After all the hard work they have done.

    Oh I completely agree with you, but irony and sarcasm seems hard for some people to grasp...

    People only see statements on the internet as black and white. The racists...

    What is that sopossed to mean?

    I'm not really sure lol. Its really early in the morning and I'm on a thread with no point
    "My name is Julius Decimus Heraclius, Guildmaster of the Scions of the Sun, Brigadier of the Covenant Army, loyal servant to the High King Emeric. Brother to a betrayed legion, son to a fallen empire. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next." ---Julius Decimus Heraclius (Imperial Templar)
  • SanTii.92
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    Achievements should definitely be account wide, some are insanely hard to get. What's the point on doing them more than once?
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  • Sausage
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    Come on, achievements must be account-wide, no-one is gonna do Achievements for another char, never again once they have do it before.
  • NeKryXe
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    removing levels would kill the game. i'd quit for sure. but i like the idea of account-wide achievements.
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    Removing levels 1 - 50? Bad. I see absolutely no point in such an endeavour. Plus I would much rather them focus on new things than going back over old stuff.

    Account wide achievements? Yeah, sure. Why not.
    Edited by JD2013 on January 8, 2016 8:39AM
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  • hydrocynus
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    Account wide achievements?

    I see a lot of lvl 3s running around with Boethiahs Scythe title too......
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    I get that you're being sarcastic, but how do you even square saying this with you're "Not in muh Eldar Scrollz!!!" attitude? You know, the one you wantonly fling at any little thing you deem to be outside of lore or scope of a TES title.
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    Oh, yes, remove levels. And skills. And make achievements account wide. Remove the gear grind as well, and let everyone get a full set of endgame gear each time they turn in a quest. Oh, and all that pesky skyshard hunting and exploring, remove that as well, and give all to each player account-wide so they have to do it only once. Oh, and alliance rank and horse training, also give all that to all players. heck, give -everything- to all players righjt from the start. Then they can install the game, log in, make a character, see a "you won the game" screen, and feel happy...
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    ...no, wait...
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    ...then they'd complain about "not having anything to do anymore" in the game, wouldn't they? And then they'd start dozends of QQ threads, and leave the game, and the suits shut down the servers...

    Come to think of it...
    That kinda reminds me of the tale of Almalexia and the Mudcrab...
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    dday3six wrote: »
    I get that you're being sarcastic, but how do you even square saying this with you're "Not in muh Eldar Scrollz!!!" attitude? You know, the one you wantonly fling at any little thing you deem to be outside of lore or scope of a TES title.

    That's reserved for those who want to cherry-pick racial passives. :P
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    Sausage wrote: »
    Come on, achievements must be account-wide, no-one is gonna do Achievements for another char, never again once they have do it before.

    Yes but you DO NOT NEED achievements on a second char. So if you don't want to bother re-leveling them, why do you care? (honnest question)

    Personaly i kinda enjoy to have the achievement separated. that way i can see how I'm working each of my character and if I'm missing some skyshards. (Yes I'm not using addond!!)
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    Since achievements are not only small and colorful pictures within the achievements tab which just look nice, but they heavily affect some aspects of the gameplay, I cannot imagine it to be account wide. E.g. the completion of dungeons achievements gives us reputation for the Undaunted skill line. Also fishing: one of the main purposes of fishing is to catch rare fish in order to complete corresponding achievements. And they are just only examples... Anyway, you play the game to complete the achievements (and not vice versa), and if you don't want to complete those, you simply don't want to play so don't play at all.
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    Why don't they make it so that there is but 1 button - the "I WIN" button - and the more you can spam that, the faster you win.

    Take it a step further even as people would QQ that they couldn't beat someone. Make it instanced, so that when you think you're fighting people in PvP, it's really AI's (or child slaves in a basement somewhere that aren't allowed to have the win button, but make the combat "feel more alive". ZOS's choice).
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    Elloa wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Come on, achievements must be account-wide, no-one is gonna do Achievements for another char, never again once they have do it before.

    Yes but you DO NOT NEED achievements on a second char. So if you don't want to bother re-leveling them, why do you care? (honnest question)

    Personaly i kinda enjoy to have the achievement separated. that way i can see how I'm working each of my character and if I'm missing some skyshards. (Yes I'm not using addond!!)

    The most important reason why I hope Achievements become account-wide is that, its already enough if we get a player do it once, dont want to scare them away with the idea of doing them multiple time.
    Edited by Sausage on January 8, 2016 1:47PM
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    Though I note the sarcastic tone in the OP (at which point I wonder, why OP even posted this: to be witty? to indirectly make fun of people? to slight the so-called QQ'ers? or to provoke genuine discussion?), I for one would actually be in favour of this change, though it would be impossible to implement this I imagine.
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    Sausage wrote: »
    Elloa wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Come on, achievements must be account-wide, no-one is gonna do Achievements for another char, never again once they have do it before.

    Yes but you DO NOT NEED achievements on a second char. So if you don't want to bother re-leveling them, why do you care? (honnest question)

    Personaly i kinda enjoy to have the achievement separated. that way i can see how I'm working each of my character and if I'm missing some skyshards. (Yes I'm not using addond!!)

    The most important reason why I hope Achivements become account-wide is that, its already enough if we get a player do it once, dont want to scare them away with the idea of doing them multiple time.

    But you do want to remove the choice to do it multiple times.

    Since the only things that achievements uniquely unlock are dyes, and those are already shared across an account... why remove the possibility of doing achievements on a character-by-character basis just to provide what is, primarily, a cosmetic change?
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    Iluvrien wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Elloa wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Come on, achievements must be account-wide, no-one is gonna do Achievements for another char, never again once they have do it before.

    Yes but you DO NOT NEED achievements on a second char. So if you don't want to bother re-leveling them, why do you care? (honnest question)

    Personaly i kinda enjoy to have the achievement separated. that way i can see how I'm working each of my character and if I'm missing some skyshards. (Yes I'm not using addond!!)

    The most important reason why I hope Achivements become account-wide is that, its already enough if we get a player do it once, dont want to scare them away with the idea of doing them multiple time.

    But you do want to remove the choice to do it multiple times.

    Since the only things that achievements uniquely unlock are dyes, and those are already shared across an account... why remove the possibility of doing achievements on a character-by-character basis just to provide what is, primarily, a cosmetic change?

    I'd estimate if one do all Achievements that takes like 400 hour. Thats enough. We want players do them, not skip them right.
    Edited by Sausage on January 8, 2016 1:50PM
  • MrDerrikk
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    Sausage wrote: »
    Iluvrien wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Elloa wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Come on, achievements must be account-wide, no-one is gonna do Achievements for another char, never again once they have do it before.

    Yes but you DO NOT NEED achievements on a second char. So if you don't want to bother re-leveling them, why do you care? (honnest question)

    Personaly i kinda enjoy to have the achievement separated. that way i can see how I'm working each of my character and if I'm missing some skyshards. (Yes I'm not using addond!!)

    The most important reason why I hope Achivements become account-wide is that, its already enough if we get a player do it once, dont want to scare them away with the idea of doing them multiple time.

    But you do want to remove the choice to do it multiple times.

    Since the only things that achievements uniquely unlock are dyes, and those are already shared across an account... why remove the possibility of doing achievements on a character-by-character basis just to provide what is, primarily, a cosmetic change?

    I'd estimate if one do all Achievements that takes like 400 hour. Thats enough. We want players do them, not skip them right.

    Please, let's keep this on topic. This thread is about the amazing idea to remove all leveling and play effort from the game, so if you were to mention achievements here, it should be to say they should be gained instantly.
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  • Sausage
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    MrDerrikk wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Iluvrien wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Elloa wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Come on, achievements must be account-wide, no-one is gonna do Achievements for another char, never again once they have do it before.

    Yes but you DO NOT NEED achievements on a second char. So if you don't want to bother re-leveling them, why do you care? (honnest question)

    Personaly i kinda enjoy to have the achievement separated. that way i can see how I'm working each of my character and if I'm missing some skyshards. (Yes I'm not using addond!!)

    The most important reason why I hope Achivements become account-wide is that, its already enough if we get a player do it once, dont want to scare them away with the idea of doing them multiple time.

    But you do want to remove the choice to do it multiple times.

    Since the only things that achievements uniquely unlock are dyes, and those are already shared across an account... why remove the possibility of doing achievements on a character-by-character basis just to provide what is, primarily, a cosmetic change?

    I'd estimate if one do all Achievements that takes like 400 hour. Thats enough. We want players do them, not skip them right.

    Please, let's keep this on topic. This thread is about the amazing idea to remove all leveling and play effort from the game, so if you were to mention achievements here, it should be to say they should be gained instantly.

    Do like some other games do, and offer Instant Max Max level Crown Store thing. As far I know WoW uses one.
    Edited by Sausage on January 8, 2016 1:57PM
  • MrDerrikk
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    Sausage wrote: »

    Do like some other games do, and offer Instant Max Max level Crown Store thing. As far I know WoW uses one.

    If you truly wish this to be in game, then I'm sorry but you may be better off playing WOW. If they ever add that then I am most certainly leaving for good.
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  • Tyrion87
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    Sausage wrote: »
    MrDerrikk wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Iluvrien wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Elloa wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    Come on, achievements must be account-wide, no-one is gonna do Achievements for another char, never again once they have do it before.

    Yes but you DO NOT NEED achievements on a second char. So if you don't want to bother re-leveling them, why do you care? (honnest question)

    Personaly i kinda enjoy to have the achievement separated. that way i can see how I'm working each of my character and if I'm missing some skyshards. (Yes I'm not using addond!!)

    The most important reason why I hope Achivements become account-wide is that, its already enough if we get a player do it once, dont want to scare them away with the idea of doing them multiple time.

    But you do want to remove the choice to do it multiple times.

    Since the only things that achievements uniquely unlock are dyes, and those are already shared across an account... why remove the possibility of doing achievements on a character-by-character basis just to provide what is, primarily, a cosmetic change?

    I'd estimate if one do all Achievements that takes like 400 hour. Thats enough. We want players do them, not skip them right.

    Please, let's keep this on topic. This thread is about the amazing idea to remove all leveling and play effort from the game, so if you were to mention achievements here, it should be to say they should be gained instantly.

    Do like some other games do, and offer Instant Max Max level Crown Store thing. As far I know WoW uses one.

    I will never understand how people can actually spend their money not to play the game... ridiculous :smile: It's like... buying a ticket to cinema and at the same time paying someone to tell us the whole story.
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    MrDerrikk wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »

    Do like some other games do, and offer Instant Max Max level Crown Store thing. As far I know WoW uses one.

    If you truly wish this to be in game, then I'm sorry but you may be better off playing WOW. If they ever add that then I am most certainly leaving for good.

    I support this myself, population is low, we all know it, if we get more endgame players thats only good, dungeons are empty, trials are empty, EU has only one active Cyrodil Campaign etc. ESO is walking on thin ice so to speak.
    Edited by Sausage on January 8, 2016 2:23PM
  • CapnPhoton
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    How exactly do they scale difficulty with zones without levels? Or would every level be the same? This sounds like a way to alienate most of the game population.
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