Heavy Attack Bug/Glitch

blackronin83x

Just wanted to see if anyone is experiencing any issues with executing a heavy attack. My specific issue is that the attack either (A) doesn't queue [im holding down the LMB and nothing happens] or (B) the wind up doesn't complete [hand raises but hammer doesn't drop]. I have talked this over with guildies and heard a few different variations. Please assume that all the basic fixes have been attempted, because they have, and a few non-basic attempts. Kind of frustrating when ZOS has put such an emphasis on the heavy attack and then when i try to use it... bugs, smh. Anyway hoping this gets fixed by maintenance today or it's queued for the patch next week. Have submitted in game tix.

LegacyDM

I hear your frustration. Sometimes my medium attacks animate but don't hit. If I'm using a stave I'll see the animation go off but no damage. Same for swords. Been like this since launch.

ontheleftcoast

Ditto. I get this problem sporadically as well. Like trying to hit the tower mages at a keep or resource with my staff.. LA's are no problem but if I hold the button down it sputters or does nothing many times. And while you might chalk that up to playing in Lagrodiil the problem happens in PvE land as well. The same goes for 2H weapons. In fact, the only weapon I seem to be able to reliably get HA's with is my trusty bow.

Egonieser

Destruction staff is particularly glitchy when it comes to light attacks. Especially during lag. I weave attacks between skills and instead of doing light/medium attack it fully charges it and won't let go unless I block to cancel it.
It is very annoying when you try to stick to particular rotation and often leaves you vulnerable because the staff wants to do it's own thing..
Not noticed this much on my stamina chars, since 3 out of 4 of mine are all magicka.

blackronin83x

Thanks for the feedback guys, I have run into it across the board (PvE / PvP) on all weapon types, and the worst is when it happens in maelstrom atm... and i can only imagine what it will be like tanking the new trial with a buggy hvy atk and no stam regen while blocking >< ... @ZOS @ZOS_GinaBruno with all the other fixes can you please look into this... kind of annoying that one of the most basic moves has this issue...

lonewolf26

Happening most of the time for me now. I've seen a few other forum posts regarding this issue. I've come not to depend on heavy attacks since they are so unreliable.

daemonios

Been that way on PC since at least Orsinium came out. There were a few threads about it then but it seemed to die off, but I still have this problem, especially on my tank.

blackronin83x

@lonewolf26 @daemonios that is kind of my point it was an issue and people kind of learned to play around it which is kind of messed up... this is literally the second attack you learn to do in the game and they have put such an emphasis on it that it should be reliable. The fact that it has been an ongoing issue since launch (i'm a PC launch player) is pressing the boundaries of ridickulus. I just want to make sure @ZOS doesn't take this off the board and keeps working to find a fix.

crowfl56

I have just gotten used to all the silly things that happen during a fight.

Your abilities don't work right spells don't go off.

The worst one is your char just locks up and u die.

This is just this game good and bad.

HeroOfNone

Had similar issues on my DK, rarely on my templar as I was leveling it the past few days. It comes and goes, but restarting can or can't fix it. If anyone can suggest a key debugger, some thing that will show in text when I hit a key as text, I can try to make a highlight during my stream. I was investigating it as an issue with the mouse, my key binfing, and other factors up till now.

blackronin83x

@crowfl56 i get where you are coming from but still want to hear an acknowledgement that it is being looked at and they are aware

Forestd16b14_ESO

I been having "A" were I hold the LMB/RBB (in case console has this bug too) and nothing happens. It normally happens after a light and or heavy attack or after I use a skill.

Like it isn't to big I just have to hit and hold the button again but I like to know when I hold my button my heavy attack will charge up.

ralonasan

Yes, all the time in maelstrom arena! Usually have to relog

blackronin83x

@Forestd16b14_ESO I am speculating it is tied to some kind of issue with the global cooldown and how the hvy attack queues up. i.e. because you hold instead of tap the button for the hvy attack the cooldown logic gets confused and holds up the action. With as many ppl as i have heard talking about this i have to believe this is not becuz of add-ons lol

Miszou

Yeah, weird combat things happen to me too (DK Tank), where skills seem to be ignored or really slow to respond. I was wondering if it was lag, but my ping is still showing ~100ms, so I just try to play through it and it usually fixes itself after a while.

Forestd16b14_ESO

blackronin83x wrote: »

@Forestd16b14_ESO I am speculating it is tied to some kind of issue with the global cooldown and how the hvy attack queues up. i.e. because you hold instead of tap the button for the hvy attack the cooldown logic gets confused and holds up the action. With as many ppl as i have heard talking about this i have to believe this is not becuz of add-ons lol

Well ZOS needs to fix that tried of using a skill or following up after a light attack and my heavy attack not working. Like I'm a DK and our class execute only works for heavy attacks. You can see how this bug would hinder that.

blackronin83x

Yeah dude, I have a v16 magicka DK, i feel that pain.

HeroOfNone

This bug comes and goes, but it happened again and I was able to determine a few things

1. when heavy attacking and holding heavy attack, the next attack won't follow up
2. if you try to heavy or light attack while a heavy attack animation is occurring then it won't register
3. spamming the mouse click may start the next attack, but rarely
4. if you heavy attack and animation cancel with an ability and follow up with another heavy attack then it will not attack, its still waiting for the heavy attack animation to finish
5. restarting the game will fix this bug


Unsure the abilities that caused this, but it seems to be associated with lag to start and then will stay with players after.

Shader_Shibes

ralonasan wrote: »

Yes, all the time in maelstrom arena! Usually have to relog

That's so Damn annoying! Does relog fix it?

RatedChaotic

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Necrelios

Egonieser wrote: »

Destruction staff is particularly glitchy when it comes to light attacks. Especially during lag. I weave attacks between skills and instead of doing light/medium attack it fully charges it and won't let go unless I block to cancel it.
It is very annoying when you try to stick to particular rotation and often leaves you vulnerable because the staff wants to do it's own thing..
Not noticed this much on my stamina chars, since 3 out of 4 of mine are all magicka.

Exactly, staff gets stuck in the casting animation often until I have to block to cancel it. I've switched to a stamina build because of this otherwise I would prefer using a staff. It became a major grievance after a certain point.

Ffastyl

Re-equipping weapons has fixed this bug for me. Weapon swapping will not work although that is technically re-equipping.

This bug remains for an indeterminate amount of time but it does not remain until logging out like it does for others. What causes it is unclear, lacking a visual or audio cue to indicate when it occurs. It simply happens and is very frustrating as my build is centered around heavy attacks.

This may be linked to controller support as during the couple days I disconnected my controller I did not note the bug occurring.

CaptainObvious

2 separate bugs on client side. One when you weave that the skill press completely cancels the heavy/medium/light attack. The second being that your client can get into a state where the combat FSM gets messed up and you have to roll before you can weave again.

This has been in place since about 3-4 patches prior to Orsinium release.

Eldorhaan

Hi there, I don't know where is this bug, but now I am also victim of it. After more investigation it seems this bug (for me) is related when you start the combat, with the weapon into the sheath. More specifically, when you start with a skill, (for me sunfire) after that, the glitch is happening. If I start weapons out, I have no more issue. I send 2 tickets to ESO but no answer yet.

As said on the top, if you dodge this resolve the issue, till you start a combat. I also test without any mods, but the glitch is still there.

It seems the bug is also on Xbox and PS4
https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/3k8sgt/does_anyone_else_get_the_heavy_attack_glitch_ps4/
https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/3ayonz/xbone_bug_when_basicheavy_attacking_with_staff/

Vaoh

Restoration Staff Heavy Attack (along with any other heavy attacks) particularly cause trouble by getting glitched out by this bug. I don't even know what to blame it on tbh. So many ways to trigger it I actually find it difficult to get Restoration Heavy Attacks to consistently work in PvP -_-

Eldorhaan

Ok so 6 months later and ... nothing better so... well

Preyfar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e9Ps4dUofI

I posted this in another thread earlier today. I get this a lot where I suddenly lose the ability to attack, and the heavy/light attacks wind up but drop zero damage. When this happens, I notice that all my direct attacks skills are greyed out (look at my weapons bar). It's like the game stops recognizing that there's a enemy in front of me and I can't "see" it in game, hence why my attacks -- like or skill - stop working. In the video, you'll see skills highlight briefly for when I can use them.

I think it has to do with LOS. Even though what you're attacking is clearly there... the game doesn't see that, hence the attacks can be fully charged and miss, or other skills won't function. You're literally nose-to-nose, but the game sees something blocking your target.

This happens to me every single day, multiple times a day, and it's frustrating to no end.

Dromede

Preyfar wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e9Ps4dUofI

I posted this in another thread earlier today. I get this a lot where I suddenly lose the ability to attack, and the heavy/light attacks wind up but drop zero damage. When this happens, I notice that all my direct attacks skills are greyed out (look at my weapons bar). It's like the game stops recognizing that there's a enemy in front of me and I can't "see" it in game, hence why my attacks -- like or skill - stop working. In the video, you'll see skills highlight briefly for when I can use them.

I think it has to do with LOS. Even though what you're attacking is clearly there... the game doesn't see that, hence the attacks can be fully charged and miss, or other skills won't function. You're literally nose-to-nose, but the game sees something blocking your target.

This happens to me every single day, multiple times a day, and it's frustrating to no end.

I thought in the beginning that it was some kind of aiming bug since my attacks will hit close to the mob with no damage, only to learn that it's an ongoing problem. Especially annoying with Overload light and heavy attacks when you're waisting both time and Ultimate points.

Eldorhaan

On my side, this bug is permanent, even I reload UI, or log out log in, it's still there

Seratopia

Sorry if its against the rules to revive months old topics but from what I heard the next update is supposed to be about class balances or changes (if that still is true. Havent been on forums much anymore lately) so I'd like to point this topic out again. And hope the devs will fix these bugs. My destro staff repeatedly got stuck in heavy attacks today when I try to weave my crushing shock with medium attacks.

When my char is stuck in heavy attack I let go of R2 and she still insists on going through all the way with it. Only way to stop it is to block or bash. Its very annoying, especially when the enemy is in execute range.. and they end up healing in the while I am trying to get my character to snap out of the bug.

Hoping for any good news for a fix.. I jumped off my game after only ten minutes just because of the frequency of this bug and how it makes fighting in Cyrodiil more frustrating than anything. I also dropped $ on a new controller thinking its from wear and tear. Nope. Its your game. Please fix destro staff.

Volrion

Seratopia wrote: »

Sorry if its against the rules to revive months old topics but from what I heard the next update is supposed to be about class balances or changes (if that still is true. Havent been on forums much anymore lately) so I'd like to point this topic out again. And hope the devs will fix these bugs. My destro staff repeatedly got stuck in heavy attacks today when I try to weave my crushing shock with medium attacks.

When my char is stuck in heavy attack I let go of R2 and she still insists on going through all the way with it. Only way to stop it is to block or bash. Its very annoying, especially when the enemy is in execute range.. and they end up healing in the while I am trying to get my character to snap out of the bug.

Hoping for any good news for a fix.. I jumped off my game after only ten minutes just because of the frequency of this bug and how it makes fighting in Cyrodiil more frustrating than anything. I also dropped $ on a new controller thinking its from wear and tear. Nope. Its your game. Please fix destro staff.

Finally finished my NB gank build. Geared him up, annnnnd yep, now I'm here looking at Destro Heavy lag posts on the forums.

Any news for a fix? I cannot play my build at all if this persists.