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What abilities does dodge-roll NOT evade?

Solariken
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It seems like dodge-rolling is becoming much less effective across the board since there are so many single target abilities that seem to ignore it. The most frustrating of which for me are Concealed Weapon and Lotus Fan. Why ZOS!? Nightblades are freaking GODS already, they don't need to be able to do that.

Anyway, I'm sure there are some abilities that are intended to go through dodge-roll, and I'm hoping some of you can help me get a list together so I can develop a better strategy against certain enemy players. I'm listing some, like Lotus Fan, because although it's an AoE and should hit you during a roll anyway, nightblades still seem to be able to initiate the "charge" DURING your dodge-roll.

Here's the list so far:

Concealed Weapon
Lotus Fan (the targeted charge portion)
Toppling Charge
Soul Strike
Meteor
Radiant Destruction
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Edited by Solariken on February 19, 2016 11:25PM
  • Knootewoot
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    Solariken wrote: »
    ... there are so many single target abilities that seem to ignore it. Here's the list so far:
    First I think, oh boy.. here comes the long list
    Solariken wrote: »
    Concealed Weapon
    Lotus Fan
    and then I lol'ed

    What about the other morph of lotus fan. Lotus fan is an AOE attack, and I don't think you can dodge roll any AOE attack.
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  • Brrrofski
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    Toppling charge
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    Siege
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    Brrrofski wrote: »
    Dawnbreaker I believe

    Dawnbreaker is an AoE. 10m radius, cone shape, wide angle (almost 180 degrees).
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    Soul strike.
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  • Solariken
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    raasdal wrote: »
    Curse

    I know that the bomb can go off during a dodge-roll, but can Curse be applied to the target during the roll?
  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    Only thing that comes to mind is siege only every thing else rolling can dodge ..... which is well stupid. Yea saved up my 250 ulti for what ?

    More proof at how rolling and damage shields are the best defense in the game then actual defense (such as mitigation and resistance. )
  • revonine
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    Concealed Weapon does not go through dodge roll, it used too but not now. Lotus Fan does an AOE snare. You cannot avoid an AOE with a dodge roll if your still in range of it.
    Toppling Charge is currently bugged as are many Templar abilities it's unavoidable.
    The explosions from detonation (both morphs) and Curse are also undodgable.

    I've been hearing unconfirmed rumors that Ambush is going through dodge roll too, but I'm on console so I can't see damage numbers to test myself. It's probably stemming from how infuriating Ambush spam is because of the mini stun + silence on all gap closers.
    Edited by revonine on January 4, 2016 6:30PM
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    Solariken wrote: »
    raasdal wrote: »
    Curse

    I know that the bomb can go off during a dodge-roll, but can Curse be applied to the target during the roll?

    Velocious Curse and Degeneration can both be applied to a target mid dodge roll.

    Ohh and I'm not sure since it's been a while since I've used either but don't Resto/Lightning heavy/channeled attacks both go through dodge?
    Edited by Ezareth on January 4, 2016 6:45PM
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  • Solariken
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    revonine wrote: »
    Concealed Weapon does not go through dodge roll, it used too but not now. Lotus Fan does an AOE snare. You cannot avoid an AOE with a dodge roll if your still in range of it.
    Toppling Charge is currently bugged as are many Templar abilities it's unavoidable.
    The explosions from detonation (both morphs) and Curse are also undodgable.

    I've been hearing unconfirmed rumors that Ambush is going through dodge roll too, but I'm on console so I can't see damage numbers to test myself. It's probably stemming from how infuriating Ambush spam is because of the mini stun + silence on all gap closers.

    I believe you are incorrect - on multiple occasions I have been spammed with Lotus Fan -> Concealed Weapon over and over while continually dodge-rolling.

    I know the AoE from Lotus Fan should hit during dodge-roll. The problem is that they are able to initiate the charge during your dodge-roll, which makes the ability entirely unavoidable.
  • aLi3nZ
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    Any AoE, any curse, some above listed moves.

    I believe a lot of it depends on when the attack was initiated vs when the dodge roll timer begins.
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    Lil_Willie wrote: »
    Meteor

    can be doged
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  • Solariken
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    BuggeX wrote: »
    Lil_Willie wrote: »
    Meteor

    can be doged

    No actually the "projectile" portion of Meteor cannot be dodged. You can block or reflect it though.
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    Solariken wrote: »
    BuggeX wrote: »
    Lil_Willie wrote: »
    Meteor

    can be doged

    No actually the "projectile" portion of Meteor cannot be dodged. You can block or reflect it though.

    well Meteor is tricky, a nb can use cloak avoid the Meteor, the Meteor will no hit anything else a ground effect would be left, cloak will ensure that you doge the next hits for x seconds
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  • Soris
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    You can dodge radiant destruction in the latest bug-release. Even while channelling.
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  • Kas
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    you can dodge RD, concealed and meteor (a bit trick, only if you start the dodge when the projectile is visible, not if you dodge when you see the circle below your feet).

    If you sure why you cannot dodge toppling but somehow it works that way (meanwhile you cannot hit a sprinting horse with manoeuvre with toppling when you come from behind...)

    you cannot dodge all kinds of magicka/siege AoE
    you cannot dodge all non-projectile spells (curse, entropy, undaunted taunt, etc)
    you cannot dodge channels (soul assault, HA resto, HA lightning - but strangely RD...)
    Edited by Kas on January 14, 2016 4:50PM
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