ESO MMO 2015

Volkodav

Malmai wrote: »

How can a game with unplayable laggy/buggy PvP element and broken class passives/ CP passives and troll bugs since beta can be MMO of the year ?

This is my question so ZoS staff do not close it until you answered my question.

Odd.I wasnt aware that the game is unplayable at all. Hmm,..

JamilaRaj

I would say there are a few reasons:
1) ESO managed to launch; most games that currently exist are in alfa/beta/kickstarter phase (and most of these are not going to leave it, ever)
2) P2W cancer had only a few months of growth; most games suffered from the disease for much longer, some were even conceived sick
3) ZOS is glacially slow to do anything, therefore it simply could not undo all previous, arguably not bad, in some cases outright brilliant, design, which took several years of effort to be made (this largely overlaps with #2, remaining harm is likely result of hitherto impossible metric-driven design, console-ization, or plain corporate stupidity), just in The Year of Decline, as 2015 will be remembered I presume.

Malmai

JamilaRaj wrote: »

I would say there are a few reasons:
1) ESO managed to launch; most games that currently exist are in alfa/beta/kickstarter phase (and most of these are not going to leave it, ever)
2) P2W cancer had only a few months of growth; most games suffered from the disease for much longer, some were even conceived sick
3) ZOS is glacially slow to do anything, therefore it simply could not undo all previous, arguably not bad, in some cases outright brilliant, design, which took several years of effort to be made (this largely overlaps with #2, remaining harm is likely result of hitherto impossible metric-driven design, console-ization, or plain corporate stupidity), just in The Year of Decline, as 2015 will be remembered I presume.

I mean they didn't fix PvP since that lightning/anti bot patch its same lag and 10-15 fps in combat i mean how is that even playable? And PvE was destroyed by greed for money no more trials and endgame content only DLC every 2 months to keep pockets full...

kongkim

Malmai wrote: »

JamilaRaj wrote: »

I would say there are a few reasons:
1) ESO managed to launch; most games that currently exist are in alfa/beta/kickstarter phase (and most of these are not going to leave it, ever)
2) P2W cancer had only a few months of growth; most games suffered from the disease for much longer, some were even conceived sick
3) ZOS is glacially slow to do anything, therefore it simply could not undo all previous, arguably not bad, in some cases outright brilliant, design, which took several years of effort to be made (this largely overlaps with #2, remaining harm is likely result of hitherto impossible metric-driven design, console-ization, or plain corporate stupidity), just in The Year of Decline, as 2015 will be remembered I presume.

I mean they didn't fix PvP since that lightning/anti bot patch its same lag and 10-15 fps in combat i mean how is that even playable? And PvE was destroyed by greed for money no more trials and endgame content only DLC every 2 months to keep pockets full...

I really don't get way you are still here if you think it all is that bad?

SemiD4rkness

kongkim wrote: »

Malmai wrote: »

JamilaRaj wrote: »

I would say there are a few reasons:
1) ESO managed to launch; most games that currently exist are in alfa/beta/kickstarter phase (and most of these are not going to leave it, ever)
2) P2W cancer had only a few months of growth; most games suffered from the disease for much longer, some were even conceived sick
3) ZOS is glacially slow to do anything, therefore it simply could not undo all previous, arguably not bad, in some cases outright brilliant, design, which took several years of effort to be made (this largely overlaps with #2, remaining harm is likely result of hitherto impossible metric-driven design, console-ization, or plain corporate stupidity), just in The Year of Decline, as 2015 will be remembered I presume.

I mean they didn't fix PvP since that lightning/anti bot patch its same lag and 10-15 fps in combat i mean how is that even playable? And PvE was destroyed by greed for money no more trials and endgame content only DLC every 2 months to keep pockets full...

I really don't get way you are still here if you think it all is that bad?

Are you one of those pve heroes aka Skyrim fanboys spending all your money on mounts and thinking this is the best game in the world?
The only reason we pvp players are still in ESO is because its combat system is fantastic. But still we want better performance in pvp.

kongkim

SemiD4rkness wrote: »

kongkim wrote: »

Malmai wrote: »

JamilaRaj wrote: »

I would say there are a few reasons:
1) ESO managed to launch; most games that currently exist are in alfa/beta/kickstarter phase (and most of these are not going to leave it, ever)
2) P2W cancer had only a few months of growth; most games suffered from the disease for much longer, some were even conceived sick
3) ZOS is glacially slow to do anything, therefore it simply could not undo all previous, arguably not bad, in some cases outright brilliant, design, which took several years of effort to be made (this largely overlaps with #2, remaining harm is likely result of hitherto impossible metric-driven design, console-ization, or plain corporate stupidity), just in The Year of Decline, as 2015 will be remembered I presume.

I mean they didn't fix PvP since that lightning/anti bot patch its same lag and 10-15 fps in combat i mean how is that even playable? And PvE was destroyed by greed for money no more trials and endgame content only DLC every 2 months to keep pockets full...

I really don't get way you are still here if you think it all is that bad?

Are you one of those pve heroes aka Skyrim fanboys spending all your money on mounts and thinking this is the best game in the world?
The only reason we pvp players are still in ESO is because its combat system is fantastic. But still we want better performance in pvp.

Haha you make it sound like its a bad thing to enjoy the full game and not only the pvp part?
And yah there is lag in the game and PVP and yah its annoying.. but if its really was that game breaking and he make sound he would not still be here playing..
And for the best mmo og the year.. there is other things in this game that PVP.. you should try it some time..

Jura23

SemiD4rkness wrote: »

kongkim wrote: »

Malmai wrote: »

JamilaRaj wrote: »

I would say there are a few reasons:
1) ESO managed to launch; most games that currently exist are in alfa/beta/kickstarter phase (and most of these are not going to leave it, ever)
2) P2W cancer had only a few months of growth; most games suffered from the disease for much longer, some were even conceived sick
3) ZOS is glacially slow to do anything, therefore it simply could not undo all previous, arguably not bad, in some cases outright brilliant, design, which took several years of effort to be made (this largely overlaps with #2, remaining harm is likely result of hitherto impossible metric-driven design, console-ization, or plain corporate stupidity), just in The Year of Decline, as 2015 will be remembered I presume.

I mean they didn't fix PvP since that lightning/anti bot patch its same lag and 10-15 fps in combat i mean how is that even playable? And PvE was destroyed by greed for money no more trials and endgame content only DLC every 2 months to keep pockets full...

I really don't get way you are still here if you think it all is that bad?

Are you one of those pve heroes aka Skyrim fanboys spending all your money on mounts and thinking this is the best game in the world?
The only reason we pvp players are still in ESO is because its combat system is fantastic. But still we want better performance in pvp.

Let's not be so harsh to each other. Our rage should go to Zenimax, not our fellow players

daemonios

How come EVERY SINGLE THREAD lately has to devolve into PvP vs. PvE or PvE vs. PvP hate?

You are not better than anyone else because you play either.

Flynch

daemonios wrote: »

How come EVERY SINGLE THREAD lately has to devolve into PvP vs. PvE or PvE vs. PvP hate?

You are not better than anyone else because you play either.

There are a select few very negative players who are very vocal in every thread on the forums. It just so happens that they are sat in opposing camps.

Waseem

been in the world of MMOs since 8 years, downloaded and played tera, wow, runescape. top.. whatever. they all felt boring and uninteresting as a start. so much i didnt feel like playing any of them, for ESO however. i just knew its amazing game..

daswahnsinn

ESO has been a great game for 2015 however i feel it will be replaced by Black Desert Online

Jade1986

I played SWTOR and Wildstar since launch. This game is doing much , MUCH better than those two.

SWTOR is churning out content SO slowly it might as well not even be bringing out content at all! And PvP hasnt seen any support in YEARS. Yeah the lag is bad HUGE pvp battles, but in medium and small scale, the lag is pretty much non existent.

Plus we get pretty beefy content updates every 3 months now, what do the other games get? Not even half that.

Jura23

laced wrote: »

I played SWTOR and Wildstar since launch. This game is doing much , MUCH better than those two.

SWTOR is churning out content SO slowly it might as well not even be bringing out content at all! And PvP hasnt seen any support in YEARS. Yeah the lag is bad HUGE pvp battles, but in medium and small scale, the lag is pretty much non existent.

Plus we get pretty beefy content updates every 3 months now, what do the other games get? Not even half that.

6 months beetween updates would be better for me. 3 months... I don't even believe it's possible to create quality content in such rapid pace + keep the game functional.

Jade1986

Jura23 wrote: »

laced wrote: »

I played SWTOR and Wildstar since launch. This game is doing much , MUCH better than those two.

SWTOR is churning out content SO slowly it might as well not even be bringing out content at all! And PvP hasnt seen any support in YEARS. Yeah the lag is bad HUGE pvp battles, but in medium and small scale, the lag is pretty much non existent.

Plus we get pretty beefy content updates every 3 months now, what do the other games get? Not even half that.

6 months beetween updates would be better for me. 3 months... I don't even believe it's possible to create quality content in such rapid pace + keep the game functional.

Well, the content updates are always for different crowds. For example, craglorn, for the raiding crowd, imperial city, even if people dont believe it, was for pvp crowd, and orsinium was for solo. IMO all of those content updates were solid, and orsinium was flat out amazing. Content for the other games though, are between 6 months and 1 year release times, and that is just too long for an mmo.

Egonieser

ProfessorKittyhawk wrote: »

We live in an age of hate. Nowadays the thing to do is to keep watching or playing something while raging all the while about how bad and horrible something is. A rational, logical person would walk away and stop playong/watching. But now everyone feels the need to hate on everything and hate on anyone who happens to actually LIKE what they hate.

ESO is far from perfect, and I'll admit I've gotten to the point where the game frustrated me to the point of quitting for a while. I complained, sure, but so does everyone else. But there's a difference between loving the game but hating the way the company that makes it handles it. This game has a lot going for it, but it can be a very frustrating to play. It's like having a family member who's an addict: you love them and want to help them succeed, but every time you have some hope and faith, they fall off the wagon again. That's about how I feel about ESO.

Yep, exactly what I keep saying in my posts.
I love the game, but I hate the bugs. The love is stronger than the hate, it hasn't tipped that balance yet, but some nights it gets damn close.

Tomato

This will be the only year ESO wins one of those awards and that's because nothing else is out. They will get destroyed in 2016 and 2017. Let them have the pity win and feel accomplished by a horribly coded game with endless PvP lag.

Malmai

laced wrote: »

I played SWTOR and Wildstar since launch. This game is doing much , MUCH better than those two.

SWTOR is churning out content SO slowly it might as well not even be bringing out content at all! And PvP hasnt seen any support in YEARS. Yeah the lag is bad HUGE pvp battles, but in medium and small scale, the lag is pretty much non existent.

Plus we get pretty beefy content updates every 3 months now, what do the other games get? Not even half that.

No you are wrong their pockets are getting updated every 3 months we get insane grind and lag and bugs and no response from devs... Only empty promises and stuff they are looking into since April 2014.

JD2013

Malmai wrote: »

laced wrote: »

I played SWTOR and Wildstar since launch. This game is doing much , MUCH better than those two.

SWTOR is churning out content SO slowly it might as well not even be bringing out content at all! And PvP hasnt seen any support in YEARS. Yeah the lag is bad HUGE pvp battles, but in medium and small scale, the lag is pretty much non existent.

Plus we get pretty beefy content updates every 3 months now, what do the other games get? Not even half that.

No you are wrong their pockets are getting updated every 3 months we get insane grind and lag and bugs and no response from devs... Only empty promises and stuff they are looking into since April 2014.

Is it your mission to spread your salt over every thread on the forum?

I mean seriously. The game does have problems but if I hated it as much as you seem to I would just walk away.

Anzriel

JD2013 wrote: »

Malmai wrote: »

laced wrote: »

I played SWTOR and Wildstar since launch. This game is doing much , MUCH better than those two.

SWTOR is churning out content SO slowly it might as well not even be bringing out content at all! And PvP hasnt seen any support in YEARS. Yeah the lag is bad HUGE pvp battles, but in medium and small scale, the lag is pretty much non existent.

Plus we get pretty beefy content updates every 3 months now, what do the other games get? Not even half that.

No you are wrong their pockets are getting updated every 3 months we get insane grind and lag and bugs and no response from devs... Only empty promises and stuff they are looking into since April 2014.

Is it your mission to spread your salt over every thread on the forum?

I mean seriously. The game does have problems but if I hated it as much as you seem to I would just walk away.

Nah, people like this guy are the ones most addicted to the game. I know I have my frustrations with the game, but as some people have said if I was as upset with this game as some people say they are I'd stop playing. Even if there wasn't another game I was interested in. I'd play single player games or simply go do something else. Some people aren't satisfied with being dissatisfied, they are unhappy anyone enjoys the game at all. It is, in my opinion, a sad way to look at things.

J2JMC

daswahnsinn wrote: »

ESO has been a great game for 2015 however i feel it will be replaced by Black Desert Online

Let's be realistic. Black Desert is going to be a competitve heavy PvP focused game. That's not beating ESO in the North American market. Only way Black Desert beats ESO is if it does everything that it's current players and potential players don't want it to do.

That being said, if black desert pleases its core demographic instead of trying to cater to everyone for extra profit, I think it will be one of the best mmo's out, even if it's not the most financially successful.

Jura23

JD2013 wrote: »

Malmai wrote: »

laced wrote: »

I played SWTOR and Wildstar since launch. This game is doing much , MUCH better than those two.

SWTOR is churning out content SO slowly it might as well not even be bringing out content at all! And PvP hasnt seen any support in YEARS. Yeah the lag is bad HUGE pvp battles, but in medium and small scale, the lag is pretty much non existent.

Plus we get pretty beefy content updates every 3 months now, what do the other games get? Not even half that.

No you are wrong their pockets are getting updated every 3 months we get insane grind and lag and bugs and no response from devs... Only empty promises and stuff they are looking into since April 2014.

Is it your mission to spread your salt over every thread on the forum?

I mean seriously. The game does have problems but if I hated it as much as you seem to I would just walk away.

I am happy that he didn't walk away. If every dev had such person sitting next to him all day, the game would probably be much better haha.

JD2013

Jura23 wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Malmai wrote: »

laced wrote: »

I played SWTOR and Wildstar since launch. This game is doing much , MUCH better than those two.

SWTOR is churning out content SO slowly it might as well not even be bringing out content at all! And PvP hasnt seen any support in YEARS. Yeah the lag is bad HUGE pvp battles, but in medium and small scale, the lag is pretty much non existent.

Plus we get pretty beefy content updates every 3 months now, what do the other games get? Not even half that.

No you are wrong their pockets are getting updated every 3 months we get insane grind and lag and bugs and no response from devs... Only empty promises and stuff they are looking into since April 2014.

Is it your mission to spread your salt over every thread on the forum?

I mean seriously. The game does have problems but if I hated it as much as you seem to I would just walk away.

I am happy that he didn't walk away. If every dev had such person sitting next to him all day, the game would probably be much better haha.

I don't think that should be a thing haha

FooWasHere

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: it's a great game, and I've had a blast since day 0, and keep having a blast.
I can't even keep up with the content between raids, pledges, PvP and guild events.

The title is well earned--good job Zenimax!

Malmai

JD2013 wrote: »

Malmai wrote: »

laced wrote: »

I played SWTOR and Wildstar since launch. This game is doing much , MUCH better than those two.

SWTOR is churning out content SO slowly it might as well not even be bringing out content at all! And PvP hasnt seen any support in YEARS. Yeah the lag is bad HUGE pvp battles, but in medium and small scale, the lag is pretty much non existent.

Plus we get pretty beefy content updates every 3 months now, what do the other games get? Not even half that.

No you are wrong their pockets are getting updated every 3 months we get insane grind and lag and bugs and no response from devs... Only empty promises and stuff they are looking into since April 2014.

Is it your mission to spread your salt over every thread on the forum?

I mean seriously. The game does have problems but if I hated it as much as you seem to I would just walk away.

Its not but things aren't moving for way too long now...