Wait, they also get heads???

Islyn
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*Was a post where I stated EMPHATICALLY that I think selling the heads from dungeon bosses is unacceptable*

I've decided I just don't care.

Run the game into the ground by just giving in to ridiculous demands.

Sell the only reason to keep repeating the only content we have.

Inbox me when I can buy AP skills and Maelstrom Weapons.

Thanks.
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  • NateAssassin
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    Even as a PvEr I have hardly gotten any helmets, I have gotten 3 or 4, all of them are trash and only two are VR16, now PvPers can buy them for AP.

    Can I buy caltrops and magicka det for gold?
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  • leepalmer95
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    Lets not compare Rng to progression.

    And yes pvper do have to run for heads, some builds run monster sets/
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  • Cadelay
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    RNG is a terrible system and a game should never be based around it. Just because you suffered miserably like a lot of us through RNG doesn't mean it should be forced on others.

    Token system please.
  • MaKTaiL
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    It took me a while to understand what you meant by heads. Hahahaha.
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    I read that title in such a wrong way. :|
    Edited by PBpsy on December 21, 2015 11:26PM
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  • Catblade
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    How does one live without a head?
  • Justice31st
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    Lol...
    Edited by Justice31st on December 21, 2015 11:30PM
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  • ajwest927
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    They probably make the monster helm soo expensive that only the most active pvper can afford them.
  • TheBull
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    We should be able to buy maelstrom rings and weapons too.
  • Heindrich
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    Oh my u are easily driven to complain...

    TheBull wrote: »
    We should be able to buy maelstrom rings and weapons too.

    ... err no, we shouldn't.
    Edited by Heindrich on December 21, 2015 11:36PM
  • Erondil
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    Islyn wrote: »
    No way.

    I am pretty much not stabbing myself in the eye with a fork over purchasable shoulders, but heads are No Way.

    Please tell me we're not selling heads, too?

    If so, every sympathy I had for pvp people is gone.

    No. You go and kill the same boss 30+ times and then we talk about heads.

    If they get to buy heads, I wtb alliance skills right now.

    Don't even try and challenge me here. Unless you've run one delve 30+x you have no say.

    They will sell heads aswell, so what? Is that a bad thing for you? Why do you even care, if you dont pvp? Are you saying its not fair because you cant get alliance war skills from PvE... but we cant lvl undaunted in PvP and you can buy all the PvP gear, can't you? It all depends on the price, but if its 1million AP (the price most of people agree on) then I can say it will still be a lot faster to get heads from PvE farming. For most of people 1 million AP is between 50 and 100 hours of pvp, for the best players its 20 hours and I'm not even counting the AP spent on sieges/other gear. On the other hand by dungeon farming you will most likely get a helm good trait/good type in 5-10 hours, even if youre bad at PvE (someone bad at PvP/AP farming will have to play 100 hours for one million AP). You can buy PvP gear for gold, we will be able to buy PvE gear for AP, you cant level PvP skill line in PvE, we cant level undaunted in PvP. All I see here, is a system finally fair and egoistic people crying about it.
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  • Recremen
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    Wait, can we confirm/deny for certain if PvP folk are getting headpieces from the vendor? If it comes with a commensurate buff to the PvE drop rates then sure, why not, but if not then that's kind of bad. Unless of course you can buy the pieces with gold, then that's not so terrible. If they want to make it like PvE, though, then they'll need to only give a chance per month of them carrying a helm at all, it will be the same helm 6 months in a row, and it will all be Well-Fitted and curiously in the wrong armor type for your build.
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  • Artjuh90
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    Erondil wrote: »
    Islyn wrote: »
    No way.

    I am pretty much not stabbing myself in the eye with a fork over purchasable shoulders, but heads are No Way.

    Please tell me we're not selling heads, too?

    If so, every sympathy I had for pvp people is gone.

    No. You go and kill the same boss 30+ times and then we talk about heads.

    If they get to buy heads, I wtb alliance skills right now.

    Don't even try and challenge me here. Unless you've run one delve 30+x you have no say.

    They will sell heads aswell, so what? Is that a bad thing for you? Why do you even care, if you dont pvp? Are you saying its not fair because you cant get alliance war skills from PvE... but we cant lvl undaunted in PvP and you can buy all the PvP gear, can't you? It all depends on the price, but if its 1million AP (the price most of people agree on) then I can say it will still be a lot faster to get heads from PvE farming. For most of people 1 million AP is between 50 and 100 hours of pvp, for the best players its 20 hours and I'm not even counting the AP spent on sieges/other gear. On the other hand by dungeon farming you will most likely get a helm good trait/good type in 5-10 hours, even if youre bad at PvE (someone bad at PvP/AP farming will have to play 100 hours for one million AP). You can buy PvP gear for gold, we will be able to buy PvE gear for AP, you cant level PvP skill line in PvE, we cant level undaunted in PvP. All I see here, is a system finally fair and egoistic people crying about it.

    well someone has never gone dungeon grinding i see 5-10 hours to get a helm xDDDDDDDDD
  • leepalmer95
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    Artjuh90 wrote: »
    Erondil wrote: »
    Islyn wrote: »
    No way.

    I am pretty much not stabbing myself in the eye with a fork over purchasable shoulders, but heads are No Way.

    Please tell me we're not selling heads, too?

    If so, every sympathy I had for pvp people is gone.

    No. You go and kill the same boss 30+ times and then we talk about heads.

    If they get to buy heads, I wtb alliance skills right now.

    Don't even try and challenge me here. Unless you've run one delve 30+x you have no say.

    They will sell heads aswell, so what? Is that a bad thing for you? Why do you even care, if you dont pvp? Are you saying its not fair because you cant get alliance war skills from PvE... but we cant lvl undaunted in PvP and you can buy all the PvP gear, can't you? It all depends on the price, but if its 1million AP (the price most of people agree on) then I can say it will still be a lot faster to get heads from PvE farming. For most of people 1 million AP is between 50 and 100 hours of pvp, for the best players its 20 hours and I'm not even counting the AP spent on sieges/other gear. On the other hand by dungeon farming you will most likely get a helm good trait/good type in 5-10 hours, even if youre bad at PvE (someone bad at PvP/AP farming will have to play 100 hours for one million AP). You can buy PvP gear for gold, we will be able to buy PvE gear for AP, you cant level PvP skill line in PvE, we cant level undaunted in PvP. All I see here, is a system finally fair and egoistic people crying about it.

    well someone has never gone dungeon grinding i see 5-10 hours to get a helm xDDDDDDDDD

    Well to be fair before the vet changes you could run darkshade in 15 mins with a good group.
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  • Artjuh90
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    Artjuh90 wrote: »
    Erondil wrote: »
    Islyn wrote: »
    No way.

    I am pretty much not stabbing myself in the eye with a fork over purchasable shoulders, but heads are No Way.

    Please tell me we're not selling heads, too?

    If so, every sympathy I had for pvp people is gone.

    No. You go and kill the same boss 30+ times and then we talk about heads.

    If they get to buy heads, I wtb alliance skills right now.

    Don't even try and challenge me here. Unless you've run one delve 30+x you have no say.

    They will sell heads aswell, so what? Is that a bad thing for you? Why do you even care, if you dont pvp? Are you saying its not fair because you cant get alliance war skills from PvE... but we cant lvl undaunted in PvP and you can buy all the PvP gear, can't you? It all depends on the price, but if its 1million AP (the price most of people agree on) then I can say it will still be a lot faster to get heads from PvE farming. For most of people 1 million AP is between 50 and 100 hours of pvp, for the best players its 20 hours and I'm not even counting the AP spent on sieges/other gear. On the other hand by dungeon farming you will most likely get a helm good trait/good type in 5-10 hours, even if youre bad at PvE (someone bad at PvP/AP farming will have to play 100 hours for one million AP). You can buy PvP gear for gold, we will be able to buy PvE gear for AP, you cant level PvP skill line in PvE, we cant level undaunted in PvP. All I see here, is a system finally fair and egoistic people crying about it.

    well someone has never gone dungeon grinding i see 5-10 hours to get a helm xDDDDDDDDD

    Well to be fair before the vet changes you could run darkshade in 15 mins with a good group.

    but now anymore and the helemt you drop probably wont drop in 40 runs with the terreble RNG rates this game has + some useless traits
  • leepalmer95
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    Artjuh90 wrote: »
    Artjuh90 wrote: »
    Erondil wrote: »
    Islyn wrote: »
    No way.

    I am pretty much not stabbing myself in the eye with a fork over purchasable shoulders, but heads are No Way.

    Please tell me we're not selling heads, too?

    If so, every sympathy I had for pvp people is gone.

    No. You go and kill the same boss 30+ times and then we talk about heads.

    If they get to buy heads, I wtb alliance skills right now.

    Don't even try and challenge me here. Unless you've run one delve 30+x you have no say.

    They will sell heads aswell, so what? Is that a bad thing for you? Why do you even care, if you dont pvp? Are you saying its not fair because you cant get alliance war skills from PvE... but we cant lvl undaunted in PvP and you can buy all the PvP gear, can't you? It all depends on the price, but if its 1million AP (the price most of people agree on) then I can say it will still be a lot faster to get heads from PvE farming. For most of people 1 million AP is between 50 and 100 hours of pvp, for the best players its 20 hours and I'm not even counting the AP spent on sieges/other gear. On the other hand by dungeon farming you will most likely get a helm good trait/good type in 5-10 hours, even if youre bad at PvE (someone bad at PvP/AP farming will have to play 100 hours for one million AP). You can buy PvP gear for gold, we will be able to buy PvE gear for AP, you cant level PvP skill line in PvE, we cant level undaunted in PvP. All I see here, is a system finally fair and egoistic people crying about it.

    well someone has never gone dungeon grinding i see 5-10 hours to get a helm xDDDDDDDDD

    Well to be fair before the vet changes you could run darkshade in 15 mins with a good group.

    but now anymore and the helemt you drop probably wont drop in 40 runs with the terreble RNG rates this game has + some useless traits

    Would it make you cry if i tell you i got 3 helms back to back 1 in each type of armour? 1 was infused as well :)
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  • Artjuh90
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    Artjuh90 wrote: »
    Artjuh90 wrote: »
    Erondil wrote: »
    Islyn wrote: »
    No way.

    I am pretty much not stabbing myself in the eye with a fork over purchasable shoulders, but heads are No Way.

    Please tell me we're not selling heads, too?

    If so, every sympathy I had for pvp people is gone.

    No. You go and kill the same boss 30+ times and then we talk about heads.

    If they get to buy heads, I wtb alliance skills right now.

    Don't even try and challenge me here. Unless you've run one delve 30+x you have no say.

    They will sell heads aswell, so what? Is that a bad thing for you? Why do you even care, if you dont pvp? Are you saying its not fair because you cant get alliance war skills from PvE... but we cant lvl undaunted in PvP and you can buy all the PvP gear, can't you? It all depends on the price, but if its 1million AP (the price most of people agree on) then I can say it will still be a lot faster to get heads from PvE farming. For most of people 1 million AP is between 50 and 100 hours of pvp, for the best players its 20 hours and I'm not even counting the AP spent on sieges/other gear. On the other hand by dungeon farming you will most likely get a helm good trait/good type in 5-10 hours, even if youre bad at PvE (someone bad at PvP/AP farming will have to play 100 hours for one million AP). You can buy PvP gear for gold, we will be able to buy PvE gear for AP, you cant level PvP skill line in PvE, we cant level undaunted in PvP. All I see here, is a system finally fair and egoistic people crying about it.

    well someone has never gone dungeon grinding i see 5-10 hours to get a helm xDDDDDDDDD

    Well to be fair before the vet changes you could run darkshade in 15 mins with a good group.

    but now anymore and the helemt you drop probably wont drop in 40 runs with the terreble RNG rates this game has + some useless traits

    Would it make you cry if i tell you i got 3 helms back to back 1 in each type of armour? 1 was infused as well :)

    thats RNG. can be great can be REALLY frustrating
  • pronkg
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    Artjuh90 wrote: »
    Erondil wrote: »
    Islyn wrote: »
    No way.

    I am pretty much not stabbing myself in the eye with a fork over purchasable shoulders, but heads are No Way.

    Please tell me we're not selling heads, too?

    If so, every sympathy I had for pvp people is gone.

    No. You go and kill the same boss 30+ times and then we talk about heads.

    If they get to buy heads, I wtb alliance skills right now.

    Don't even try and challenge me here. Unless you've run one delve 30+x you have no say.

    They will sell heads aswell, so what? Is that a bad thing for you? Why do you even care, if you dont pvp? Are you saying its not fair because you cant get alliance war skills from PvE... but we cant lvl undaunted in PvP and you can buy all the PvP gear, can't you? It all depends on the price, but if its 1million AP (the price most of people agree on) then I can say it will still be a lot faster to get heads from PvE farming. For most of people 1 million AP is between 50 and 100 hours of pvp, for the best players its 20 hours and I'm not even counting the AP spent on sieges/other gear. On the other hand by dungeon farming you will most likely get a helm good trait/good type in 5-10 hours, even if youre bad at PvE (someone bad at PvP/AP farming will have to play 100 hours for one million AP). You can buy PvP gear for gold, we will be able to buy PvE gear for AP, you cant level PvP skill line in PvE, we cant level undaunted in PvP. All I see here, is a system finally fair and egoistic people crying about it.

    well someone has never gone dungeon grinding i see 5-10 hours to get a helm xDDDDDDDDD

    Well to be fair before the vet changes you could run darkshade in 15 mins with a good group.

    Try running WGT in 15 minutes with a group of randoms
  • Savos_Saren
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    Islyn wrote: »
    No way.

    I am pretty much not stabbing myself in the eye with a fork over purchasable shoulders, but heads are No Way.

    Please tell me we're not selling heads, too?

    If so, every sympathy I had for pvp people is gone.

    No. You go and kill the same boss 30+ times and then we talk about heads.

    If they get to buy heads, I wtb alliance skills right now.

    Don't even try and challenge me here. Unless you've run one delve 30+x you have no say.


    The equivalent to PVPers buying Monster Helm/Shoulder sets would be if PVEers could purchase all the Tel Var stone Sets (Reactive Armor, Phoenix, Shield Breaker) for gold. I'm trying to think of other items that you SPECIFICALLY have to PVP for... Maybe V16 Elf Bane? Shroud of the Lich set (since the only Dark Anchors are currently in Cyrodiil)?

    Basically, if you're going to offer Helms/Shoulders to PVPers (for gold or AP) then, you need to offer anything that specifically has to be purchased with AP to PVEers... which- they could, in turn, buy with gold.

    As for all the QQing about "let me purchase caltrops"- well, that's an Alliance Skill that you have to earn. Much like PVPers have to earn Undaunted Skills.

    I actually am in favor of purchasing Undaunted Helms/Shoulders... I'm sick of this pathetic RNG!!! I've spent waaaaay too many unfruitful hours in vCoA. And, they should allow group members to trade WITHIN a dungeon... upon exiting the dungeon- the gear should then be bound.

    Disclaimer: I PvP and PvE... do both so that you'll enjoy the game more!
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  • Draxys
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    People can already buy the gear that comes from pvp, so I don't see the problem here. Gear and skill lines are two completely different issues.
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  • Jaronking
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    Islyn wrote: »
    No way.

    I am pretty much not stabbing myself in the eye with a fork over purchasable shoulders, but heads are No Way.

    Please tell me we're not selling heads, too?

    If so, every sympathy I had for pvp people is gone.

    No. You go and kill the same boss 30+ times and then we talk about heads.

    If they get to buy heads, I wtb alliance skills right now.

    Don't even try and challenge me here. Unless you've run one delve 30+x you have no say.

    How are skills and a piece of equipment even remotely the same.You can't compare the two things at all so your argument make no sense.
    Edited by Jaronking on December 22, 2015 1:42AM
  • Volkodav
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    They're called "helmets",not "heads".
  • Grunim
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    Recremen wrote: »
    Wait, can we confirm/deny for certain if PvP folk are getting headpieces from the vendor? If it comes with a commensurate buff to the PvE drop rates then sure, why not, but if not then that's kind of bad. Unless of course you can buy the pieces with gold, then that's not so terrible. If they want to make it like PvE, though, then they'll need to only give a chance per month of them carrying a helm at all, it will be the same helm 6 months in a row, and it will all be Well-Fitted and curiously in the wrong armor type for your build.

    It won't just be "PvP folk" who can purchase monster helm pieces from a vendor because it will be available for gold too! That's right, gold. Which means you won't have to earn any Alliance Points to buy it, just have enough gold.
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  • Islyn
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    Erondil wrote: »
    Islyn wrote: »
    No way.

    I am pretty much not stabbing myself in the eye with a fork over purchasable shoulders, but heads are No Way.

    Please tell me we're not selling heads, too?

    If so, every sympathy I had for pvp people is gone.

    No. You go and kill the same boss 30+ times and then we talk about heads.

    If they get to buy heads, I wtb alliance skills right now.

    Don't even try and challenge me here. Unless you've run one delve 30+x you have no say.

    They will sell heads aswell, so what? Is that a bad thing for you? Why do you even care, if you dont pvp? Are you saying its not fair because you cant get alliance war skills from PvE... but we cant lvl undaunted in PvP and you can buy all the PvP gear, can't you? It all depends on the price, but if its 1million AP (the price most of people agree on) then I can say it will still be a lot faster to get heads from PvE farming. For most of people 1 million AP is between 50 and 100 hours of pvp, for the best players its 20 hours and I'm not even counting the AP spent on sieges/other gear. On the other hand by dungeon farming you will most likely get a helm good trait/good type in 5-10 hours, even if youre bad at PvE (someone bad at PvP/AP farming will have to play 100 hours for one million AP). You can buy PvP gear for gold, we will be able to buy PvE gear for AP, you cant level PvP skill line in PvE, we cant level undaunted in PvP. All I see here, is a system finally fair and egoistic people crying about it.

    If you really don't understand why I am bothered by this then I very much doubt you'll understand if I try and explain it to you.
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  • NateAssassin
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    Grunim wrote: »
    Recremen wrote: »
    Wait, can we confirm/deny for certain if PvP folk are getting headpieces from the vendor? If it comes with a commensurate buff to the PvE drop rates then sure, why not, but if not then that's kind of bad. Unless of course you can buy the pieces with gold, then that's not so terrible. If they want to make it like PvE, though, then they'll need to only give a chance per month of them carrying a helm at all, it will be the same helm 6 months in a row, and it will all be Well-Fitted and curiously in the wrong armor type for your build.

    It won't just be "PvP folk" who can purchase monster helm pieces from a vendor because it will be available for gold too! That's right, gold. Which means you won't have to earn any Alliance Points to buy it, just have enough gold.
    When they make the helmets random trait and cost 1 million gold, I'm gona laugh.
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  • Islyn
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    They're called "helmets",not "heads".

    Well this explains why you don't deserve one.
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  • Volkodav
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    Islyn wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    They're called "helmets",not "heads".

    Well this explains why you don't deserve one.

    Hehehe. I have enough,thank you. :}
  • Islyn
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    Trying to get a razz out of me on this will never happen.

    It's wrong and even the whiniest of you know it.

    No matter what you say.
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  • Volkodav
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    Islyn wrote: »
    Trying to get a razz out of me on this will never happen.

    It's wrong and even the whiniest of you know it.

    No matter what you say.

    Really? I didnt try to get a rise out of you.I just mentioned the name of the item.Helmet.
    Edited by Volkodav on December 22, 2015 1:30AM
  • SemiD4rkness
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    This is what happens when devs listen to the opinion of one streamer.
    Hurr durrr I play only pvp and want pve gear to be earned trough pvp.
    Im a pvp player but when I wanted a Bloodspawn helmet I worked hard for it and run the same freakin dung 62 times I think. A tokens system would be so much better. Being able to buy them with ap is like spitting on pvers face. I do feel bad for them.
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