Costume set body shapes

Aimora

Why have they made it so the costumes give you a set body shape rather than laying over the build you have created for your character?

I made all my girls into full hour glass shapes with child bearing hips and waspy waists, the corseted Riding Outfit makes the char look wide backed, thick waisted with a boyish hips and bum The Noble dress makes all the chars look like they are super super skinny too!

Volkodav

Agreed.I dont buy those clothes for that reason.I made my little Hobbit girl very chubby with large feet.In those costumes,she looks nothing like a Hobbit.Only a very short person of slight build.
>:{

Aimora

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You can see the difference

Volkodav

At least you got the costume there.I didnt even see it in my crown store.I tried to find it and buy it,but nope.It isnt there.But,I can see the difference just a bit.

Aimora

It's at the bottom of the cultural ones - you have to scroll down

GreenSoup2HoT

yeah i got it and was disappointed as well.

Volkodav

Aimora wrote: »

It's at the bottom of the cultural ones - you have to scroll down

Thanks.I might get it,but not for my little Hobbit girl Merrymas Leafwalker. :}

sir_buttersworth

Hmm... I never noticed that before. Seems weird that it happens though.

Gidorick

Most direct and straight forward reason? It's easier.

It's easier to replace your body than to design a system which dynamically alters the costume to your character's shape. Armor works similarly. That's why in some armors a female character looks MUCH bustier in some and WAY less busty in others.

Aimora

Gidorick wrote: »

Most direct and straight forward reason? It's easier.

It's easier to replace your body than to design a system which dynamically alters the costume to your character's shape. Armor works similarly. That's why in some armors a female character looks MUCH bustier in some and WAY less busty in others.

Yeah I guess so - just wish the weren't so extreme

MornaBaine

Aimora wrote: »

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I hate the top on this costume anyway. Great bottom and boots, incredibly lame St Paulie's Girl bimbo top. What were you thinking ZOS? As someone who actually does wear corsets I can tell you they are not your first choice for riding apparel and I'm pretty sure this game is not set in the Victorian era. But yes, the fact that the costumes do not at all conform to your character's body as designed by you, the player, is just another of their many great failings. The inability to dye them and the fact that most of them either look Victorian or like bad Ren Faire wear being the others. I don't know who you have working on this stuff ZOS but I'd say you need to do some major rethinking on this issue.

Mettaricana

The ridong suit looked noce except ot makes my altmer's ample butt and hips vanish into nothing. The dresses do give chests a bit of appeal.

Nadijeh

Mettaricana wrote: »

The ridong suit looked noce except ot makes my altmer's ample butt and hips vanish into nothing. The dresses do give chests a bit of appeal.

Yeah my toons hips are very small and narrow now so it's pretty obvious it alters the build of the character. Hope it's a bug.

Lysette

Gidorick wrote: »

Most direct and straight forward reason? It's easier.

It's easier to replace your body than to design a system which dynamically alters the costume to your character's shape. Armor works similarly. That's why in some armors a female character looks MUCH bustier in some and WAY less busty in others.

I recognized that as well - it is hard if not impossible in some cases, to create a female character, which does not have model shape and is skinny as hell. I mean, these are combat characters, not cat walk models. I expect my character to have muscles and be all but skinny to be able to stand her ground in combat, swing heavy weapons and be able to sprint in heavy gear.

I managed to give them a shape in the character editor which is somewhat acceptable and has muscles in the right places, but in some armor she looks nevertheless skinny like a cat walk model - some gear is just messing with or ignoring settings.

Edit:

In short, I expect my characters to look athletic, a model shape looks ridiculous in heavy gear.

RizaHawkeye

Gidorick wrote: »

Most direct and straight forward reason? It's easier.

It's easier to replace your body than to design a system which dynamically alters the costume to your character's shape. Armor works similarly. That's why in some armors a female character looks MUCH bustier in some and WAY less busty in others.

Except it's not even that hard. They don't HAVE TO design a system.

Clearly, the character gen tool creates unique mesh data for the body you design. Then, when you find or craft an armor or clothing item, the game takes that data and applies it to the crafted/found items mesh and texture. And it does it for every single item armor or clothing item you find in the game.

So the system is already in place. It's why Altmer heavy greaves look like yoga pants on some characters.

All they would have to do is is take the existing data, and load it when you put on a costume. That said, some armor is made to fit tight; some is made to fit loose. Some pants look baggy, some do not. I've never noticed the costumes not conforming to my character's body shape, but TBH, I don't wear a lot of costumes.

Cwynlaen

Huh... maybe it's video card related? I could swear the two characters I put it on, a curvy Redguard and a wispy Breton, both got broad shouldered manly V-shapes. ...well, with small arms and such.

eliisra

Gidorick wrote: »

Most direct and straight forward reason? It's easier.

It's easier to replace your body than to design a system which dynamically alters the costume to your character's shape. Armor works similarly. That's why in some armors a female character looks MUCH bustier in some and WAY less busty in others.

I get that it's easier lol. But most armor follows and even flatters a characters body though. Changes in chest, waist or hips, are minor. There's a few exceptions in dropped armor, like Phoenix, giving you chicken breast + exploding lungs, but rest is fine.

Disguises from quests also follows the characters body. Why they look 100% better than store costumes.

If they want to sell these costumes in the store, they have to stop being sloppy. No excuse, already a system for this considering both armor and disguises. I sure as hell wont buy and wear stuff that replaces my body with another one that's super ugly, making my chars look bulky and weird.

driosketch

The costumes all seem to fit wrong on my characters. I would have bought a lot of these otherwise.

I did like the blue orc robes on my main. I'm just missing a dai katana motif to go with it.

Lysette

Lol, everyone is different - you complain that your characters might look too bulky and I complain that I cannot get them bulky enough to appear like a female warrior and not like a cat walk model. Guess with these massively different expectations ZOS can do nothing really to make it match our both expectations.

Jura23

Nice example how Zose manage to screw up things you wouldn't ever expect.

Cwynlaen

Okay... maybe not QUITE as off as I thought but, the shoulders do seem a little bigger.

LadyNalcarya

Lysette wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

Most direct and straight forward reason? It's easier.

It's easier to replace your body than to design a system which dynamically alters the costume to your character's shape. Armor works similarly. That's why in some armors a female character looks MUCH bustier in some and WAY less busty in others.

I recognized that as well - it is hard if not impossible in some cases, to create a female character, which does not have model shape and is skinny as hell. I mean, these are combat characters, not cat walk models. I expect my character to have muscles and be all but skinny to be able to stand her ground in combat, swing heavy weapons and be able to sprint in heavy gear.

I managed to give them a shape in the character editor which is somewhat acceptable and has muscles in the right places, but in some armor she looks nevertheless skinny like a cat walk model - some gear is just messing with or ignoring settings.

Edit:

In short, I expect my characters to look athletic, a model shape looks ridiculous in heavy gear.

That's because a lot of heavy armor styles look like diving suits or superhero outfits.
And costumes look ridiculous on some characters. Especially a noble dress, my skinny wood elf looks unrealistically thin, like her ribs and hip bone were removed. And riding outfit and wedding/evening dress makes my char's figures too manly, even my hourglass-shaped breton looks like a crossdresser with huge pectorals and broad shoulders.

Cazzy

Same on mine. I tried to make my toon have a similar body shape to my own (hourglass) and when I previewed the costume I looked completely different. I'm sticking to wearing the costumes and RP outfits you can steal

Abeille

I just want corsets to actually work as corsets. The Noble Dress did it right, so why not the Riding Outfit, the Evening Dress and the Ball Gown?

Birdovic

Yup can confirm, something definetly doesnt feel right with the looks

Aimora

andypappb16_ESO wrote: »

Yup can confirm, something definetly doesnt feel right with the looks

Hahaha!!!

Nadijeh

lol if anything a corset should be shrinking your waist and causing your hips to seem bigger not the other way around.

Paulington

Not entirely sure how I feel, all I know is that it makes me beautiful!

Alucardo

Paulington wrote: »

I love your dress!



Thank you @Aimora for taking the beautiful photo

failkiwib16_ESO

@andypappb16_ESO
You look so much like my friend's char Q.Q he quit pc version, I miss him.

LadyNalcarya

Alucardo wrote: »

Paulington wrote: »

I love your dress!



Thank you @Aimora for taking the beautiful photo