ESO Plus Improvements

MaxwellC

ESO Plus as it stands is completely lack luster except for the access to all future DLC (While subscription is active) and the 1500 crowns you get upon monthly renewal of your membership. I do know some threads exist when pertaining to this matter but I just wanted to share my in-put.

10% EXP gain is pretty negligible at it's current stat but alright I guess.
The increased gold find is completely useless as you usually make the majority of your cash through buying-selling in guild traders or with other players.
10% reduction in research cost is completely and utterly horrible, I suggest they improve it to 30% if not 50% (50 is a little high but one can only hope).

I know crafting bags are coming but why not some cosmetic lore friendly stuff like cloaks,scarves,and capes as they are all lore friendly (going by the box art at-least). They would pretty much be like a guild tabard but you can customize your own emblem with colors (you would use the dyes you unlocked to customize the color of the cosmetic cloaks,scarves, and capes).

There could also be a ESO + bank space which provides you with 50-100 spots while being a subscriber and let's say for example you no longer wish to subscribe well the items would remain in that space where you would only be able to withdraw or deposit like items that are stack-able e.g. materials.

You could have priority over everyone else when it comes to getting into cyrodiil. Let's say the campaign is full and normally without subscription you may have to wait for 30 other players to go well with subscription on you now get a expedited premium wait time which moves a lot faster. Example premium wait would be 5 players compared to waiting for 30 other players who are non subscribers.

How about subscriber based emotes (lore friendly if that's possible). I'm not sure if this is lore friendly but how about a slow clap with your head shaking back n forth slowly in disappointment, I know a lot of players who would like that emote for taunting or just expressing their disappointment in their alliance or team mates.

Exclusive trophies (lore friendly ofc), maybe trophies about different princes/princesses for example boethiah, trinimac, etc. The trophies would represent a symbol that the daedric prince/princess is known for.

Exclusive subscriber dyes and maybe costumes for those who have a long tenure with ESO plus.

Sharing the love. For a period for 2 hours you could possibly share the subscriber benefits with other players of your choosing thus making a "It was good while it lasted" kinda feeling; this would entice players who are not a subscriber to subscribe to the game too. The cool down would be either once a week or once every two weeks.

Rare drop rate increased (non share-able). You'd get a potion every week or two that lasts for two hours, during those two hours you'd get increased drop rate on rare items. The potion it's self would obviously be non-trade-able or stack-able. The cool down for drinking said potion would be once every 6 days.

That's all I'm going to put but I do hope ZOS takes a look at this because I do want the game to flourish even though they nerf the only and most favorite class over and over again (DK); nevertheless money makes the moves and the more subscribers the better and faster things get completed. @ZOS_GinaBruno

The_Man_From_Stygia

Add in some increased drop rates too.

MaxwellC

@The_Man_From_Stygia That wouldn't be good unless it were for bound on pick up because it could ruin the market, though if it were balanced it could be a contender.

If increased drop rates on non BoP it would have to be a type of potion you'd get that expires every 2 hours and you would only get it once a week.

The_Man_From_Stygia

@MaxwellCrystal True, I am speaking more of the set items, ect... which are bound and can't be sold. Also the increase wouldn't be huge. Double a 1% drop rate is only 2%

gw2only1b14_ESO

The_Man_From_Stygia wrote: »

Add in some increased drop rates too.

I like that or a % boost on rng

deadlock007

I think ESO Plus members should be able to travel to wayshrines for free. I know you can port to people for free but it would be cool to be able to port to wherever we want with no penalties from having just traveled somewhere.

MaxwellC

Way shrines are meant as a gold sink and to stop players from just teleporting everywhere without exploring new areas (At-least IMO).

Gidorick

I like the idea of an RNG relief.... I might just add it to the thread I made back in February regarding ESO+ Benefit Suggestions. http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/150450/eso-subscription-benefits-suggestions/p1

Denaia

I don't get the complaints.. Eso Plus is the best way of experiencing the most of ESO. "Free" DLC, some boosts & various items from the crown store with the monthly crowns.

Imo, there is no better deal then ESO + and yet people keep complaining for more.

MaxwellC

@Denaia Then you haven't played a variety of different MMOs that are F2P modeled. The subscription benefits for ESO Plus pales in comparison to those who came before it and they've been F2P since the beginning not requiring an initial purchase of the game.

My idea is to pass off some ideas that ZOS may or may have not came up with based on the various MMOs I've played over the course of the years. It's arrogant but I feel ZOS doesn't have all the answers to improve their turn-out which results in things getting done quicker and better.

deadlock007

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

Way shrines are meant as a gold sink and to stop players from just teleporting everywhere without exploring new areas (At-least IMO).

146-999 gold is more of an annoyance than a gold sink, especially since you can travel to other players for free to bypass it. Besides, I would bet that most of the subscribers have already covered every inch of playable area in the game. It was just an idea that popped in my head when I was fishing the other day and thought it would be a nice perk.

Denaia

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

@Denaia Then you haven't played a variety of different MMOs that are F2P modeled. The subscription benefits for ESO Plus pales in comparison to those who came before it and they've been F2P since the beginning not requiring an initial purchase of the game.

My idea is to pass off some ideas that ZOS may or may have not came up with based on the various MMOs I've played over the course of the years. It's arrogant but I feel ZOS doesn't have all the answers to improve their turn-out which results in things getting done quicker and better.

Yes and you know what those mmo's also do? They sell gear in the crown shop or become p2w.

The changes you suggest are a slippery slope where more and more heavier features will also have to be added to the store. I prefer to keep my game free of such practices. I'd say Eso Plus is fine as it is.

To end on a positive note, not all your idea's are bad. Eso + bank space is something I could live with and I think re-introducing subscriber loyalty rewards wouldn't be a bad thing either.

KingYogi415

Why are people trying so hard to ruin this game?????

Just god no

UltimaJoe777

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

You could have priority over everyone else when it comes to getting into cyrodiil. Let's say the campaign is full and normally without subscription you may have to wait for 30 other players to go well with subscription on you now get a expedited premium wait time which moves a lot faster. Example premium wait would be 5 players compared to waiting for 30 other players who are non subscribers.

This has been suggested before, but no matter how you slice it it would be unfair to those that don't subscribe, especially if they can't.

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

Exclusive trophies (lore friendly ofc), maybe trophies about different princes/princesses for example boethiah, trinimac, etc. The trophies would represent a symbol that the daedric prince/princess is known for.

Maybe after Player Housing... Maybe.

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

Exclusive subscriber dyes and maybe costumes for those who have a long tenure with ESO plus.

Dyes would be out but costumes I suppose are not entirely unreasonable. Maybe a costume relative to subscriptions...

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

Rare drop rate increased (non share-able). You'd get a potion every week or two that lasts for two hours, during those two hours you'd get increased drop rate on rare items. The potion it's self would obviously be non-trade-able or stack-able. The cool down for drinking said potion would be once every 6 days.

This would likely be a plus to anyone that RNGeebus screws over, but a Potion? Nah, just a solid small increase whilst subscribed would suffice. Nothing too big though...

nimander99

Id personally like to see actual in game Tabards as quest rewards... or a rep system where you can earn the tabards (here's looking at you WoW) Always loved stuff like that.

NewBlacksmurf

The only thing I agree with is research time reduction being greater but not 30% - 50%.

Everything else, I feel, is going in a different direction that ZOS intends because ESO Plus at its root is only there for one reason.

-To offer those who would rather pay a sub for DLC, to have access for one monthly cost.

The crowns and other added benefits are thrown in because crowns are already $15 without ESO plus but the other benefits are intentionally not setup to give a player an apparent advantage over non-subscribers.


The person who doesn't subscribe who may buy crowns as desired shouldn't feel or be placed any lower than someone who does subscribe. Perhaps some of your suggestions would be great as crown items which would come due to having 1500 crowns for each renewal and offered for purchase.

Toc de Malsvi

Several of these suggestions seem really cool but don't hold up well when considering the long term effects of the changes. As it stands though ESO plus is not a great service, too many players subscribe for the month that the new DLC's come out then use their crowns to buy the new DLC and unsubscribe as the benefits of Plus are not significant enough for them to stay subscribed. I'm not trying to say that there are not benefits from it, I've been subscribed since the game was released on PC however I have started to feel that it is not worth it, the black friday deals were great but they really hurt long time subscribers by offering roughly the same value of months of subscriptions at a significantly reduced cost making it seem as if the non subscribed made off with more than the subscribed. If they offer deals like that in the future it would be nice if ESO plus members had access to better deals. Thankfully I am not in a situation financially where it is a concern but I'm sure there are players who are, the plus bonus' are so small and hardly noticeable that even not financially stressed I often am considering and reconsidering unsubscribing.

If they do make changes I hope they stick to the cosmetic side of the game more with mounts/pets/color/gear options that do not effect performance so as to avoid the pay to win model.