Imperial City/Orsinium World Bosses Need a Chnage

charisma316

Tell me why you make the World Bosses in IC district and all the Sewer Flag Bosses as well as the Orsinium World Bosses so insanely difficult whereyou need large groups to defeat when in reallity they dont drop anything worth a damn and nobody really wastes there time in doing them anymore

How About YOu either Extremely Nerf all these Bosses to make them manageble to do by 2-4 Man Groups for the Majority of players

Or actually make them all where they drop some actuall good Loot so people will actually assist people who want to do them

KingYogi415

i got half a cp point from each ors boss.

get good

Merry

Craglorn too. More so than IC really. IC is stil current content for the most part and people are still doing it. Crag is usually barren, or only a few people are there doing stuff, at least when I play. Finding a group is just not fun.

M

syzmic

Merry wrote: »

Craglorn too. More so than IC really. IC is stil current content for the most part and people are still doing it. Crag is usually barren, or only a few people are there doing stuff, at least when I play. Finding a group is just not fun.

M

Craglorn should be removed from the game imo or make it soloable.

Brrrofski

You don't need huge groups.

The sewer bosses I've taken down in groups of 4 or 5.

I've soloed three orsinium bosses and dueod another.

People need go stop trying to make the game solo.

If you want to do group stuff, be sociable and join a guild

nordsavage

These bosses are manageable with around four players. Try going in with familiar players who have their kits in order. Random player groups are more difficult because each person is looking out for number one. They are mostly disorganized and mismatched. This leads to the need for more bodies.

Jura23

Slightly off topic:

Im one of those ppl who always farm gold mats before they change gear. Cant stand playing and knowing I didnt upgrade to max, but boy, the difference beetween that blue and purple v16 jewelry is sooo tiny that even I dont bother looking for purple pieces.

Merry

syzmic wrote: »

Craglorn should be removed from the game imo or make it soloable.

Agreed. It is far too hard to get stuff done.
Im for making it soloable, but the only game I have played that actually addresses old content well is WoW (others might I just didnt play any). They removed any boss mechanics that make old bosses impossible to solo (for example, one eats a member of the group and the others have to get him out of the stomach. So they removed that part of the mechanics so it could be done solo).
I dont see these guys doing anything about it tho. /shrug

M

Tarrin

There is a lot of world bos..hmm..losers in other zones. Please, don`t touch IC/Orcinium world bosses.

hamburgerler76

I'm sorry you don't have enough friends to do this but no they are challenging again and there great! IMO

DRXHarbinger

No one soloing an orsinium boss. No chance. Proof required. Being the last man alive at 2% health doesn't count either. IC sewer bosses have a nice little glitch on console at least where 2 people can crush a banner boss. Not posting it on here but it's easy when you think about it. District bosses are the hardest bosses in the game imo. So damn hard they sometimes require all the alliances to ignore each other just to bring them down.

charisma316

KingYogi415 wrote: »

i got half a cp point from each ors boss.

get good

first off get good isnt proper english homie

and its beneficial for everyone i have 500 cp and can manage but the majority cant its stupid

charisma316

hamburgerler76 wrote: »

I'm sorry you don't have enough friends to do this but no they are challenging again and there great! IMO

who are you later

hamburgerler76

charisma316 wrote: »

hamburgerler76 wrote: »

I'm sorry you don't have enough friends to do this but no they are challenging again and there great! IMO

who are you later

I am the Hamburgerler76 nice to meet you goodbye.

charisma316

Brrrofski wrote: »

You don't need huge groups.

The sewer bosses I've taken down in groups of 4 or 5.

I've soloed three orsinium bosses and dueod another.

People need go stop trying to make the game solo.

If you want to do group stuff, be sociable and join a guild

obviously you dont play the game especially on console people just pvp and or care about making fake gold being in a guild makes no difference they say nah i dont wanna do it there is nothing in it for me

charisma316

as for you saying you duod a orsinum boss you are bsing post video proof or take your lies elsewhere homie

Refuse2GrowUp

charisma316 wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

You don't need huge groups.

The sewer bosses I've taken down in groups of 4 or 5.

I've soloed three orsinium bosses and dueod another.

People need go stop trying to make the game solo.

If you want to do group stuff, be sociable and join a guild

obviously you dont play the game especially on console people just pvp and or care about making fake gold being in a guild makes no difference they say nah i dont wanna do it there is nothing in it for me

I play on console and am in a social, active guild. We can get guys together to do just about anything. That is not to say that we can do so on a whim as players do have their own needs and agendas, but we can get groups to do just about anything. In fact, the only thing difficult now-a-days in terms of social support is finding tanks. thanks to the constant nerfs of tanks, many have rerolled and simply don't tank anymore.

Back on topic, this is an MMO. My two cents, most things should not be soloable. Please stop asking for nerfs and for all content to be able to be beaten solo. Devs are taking enough of a beating over MSA being solo content. We need stuff that requires group play

DRXHarbinger

^ innit. Group play is much more fun. Just needs to be completable with 1 or more is all. Like craglorn needing 4 to get into a room is a bad idea. Just killed it for me.

lolo_01b16_ESO

charisma316 wrote: »

as for you saying you duod a orsinum boss you are bsing post video proof or take your lies elsewhere homie

The biggest issue when you try to kill a boss as duo is to have him down before 10 other players arrive and engage the fight aswell. (at least on PC EU)

Magdalina

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

No one soloing an orsinium boss. No chance. Proof required. Being the last man alive at 2% health doesn't count either. IC sewer bosses have a nice little glitch on console at least where 2 people can crush a banner boss. Not posting it on here but it's easy when you think about it. District bosses are the hardest bosses in the game imo. So damn hard they sometimes require all the alliances to ignore each other just to bring them down.

Not all Wrothgar bosses are the same. Accursed Nursery(or whatever it's called, has that Abomination guy) is very easy to solo, Unfinished Dolmen is, to the best of my understanding, impossible. Nyz is doable, Poacher's is somewhat possible but hard. The rest I'm not sure about.

That aside, I do agree harder bosses need better loot. But harder bosses without good loot still>>>>easier bosses without good loot. Wrothgar is an entirely solo zone where all mobs die from half a sneeze, please don't nerf WB to that level.
Besides, Wrothgar WB have dailies associated with them which argueably have decent loot...sometimes.

Phinix1

Well, we 3-manned Zandadunoz (Unfinished Dolmen) which is arguably the most difficult of the 6. This was about 100 CP ago for me!



Also, you DO get decent rewards if you get the daily quest for each boss. You can share them among your group so it is possible to do all 6 in one day. Each turn-in gives a ton of XP and a reward box which often contains set items (Pariah, Trinimac, Briarthorn).

Also, they are quite fun encounters IMO.

riverdragon72

IC..... enemies camp your base, snag banner boss and drag it to them = fun to watch. I love it when the turds throw caltops behind them in a tunnel, it instantly takes aggro off of me and the fun show is on! :P

Refuse2GrowUp

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

^ innit. Group play is much more fun. Just needs to be completable with 1 or more is all. Like craglorn needing 4 to get into a room is a bad idea. Just killed it for me.

Though on the flip side, if a boss can be solo'd by even 20% of the player base, chances are it is going to be a boring group experience for pretty much everyone. Most enjoy the challenge; I know I certainly do

Phinix1

Refuse2GrowUp wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

^ innit. Group play is much more fun. Just needs to be completable with 1 or more is all. Like craglorn needing 4 to get into a room is a bad idea. Just killed it for me.

Though on the flip side, if a boss can be solo'd by even 20% of the player base, chances are it is going to be a boring group experience for pretty much everyone. Most enjoy the challenge; I know I certainly do

Don't quote me on this, but the Orsinium bosses MAY scale in difficulty or at least HP depending on the number of people there.

Doing Unfinished Dolmen with only 3 was challenging. I was basically 80% of the DPS and had to CC minions, nuke portals, all while dodging the circles which were mostly after me.

But on another occasion with around 12 people it seemed like even MORE of a challenge! More minions for sure, and it seemed like more circles, and the boss seemed to take longer to kill than with just 3.

Could be my imagination though, like I said, don't quote me.

ChuckyPayne

-1, NO
M(M)O (M) = Multiplayer

If we talk about bosses. That would be scaleable from 2+. If you can do with 2 ppl, that is hard enough there is challange but if you do with 20-30 players that is horrible easy pie. If you have luck u can hit once the boss

Horrible as the Dolmens u r lvl26 dolmen lvl26 too. There is 2 VET16 players, and If you have luck u can hit a mob for the done the dolmen with treause, but 0 exp because of VET16 players.

That is the problem not the cant solo...

Craglorn is problems too!!!! Just ask, why am I do? No motivation with alts only for skyshard, that is soloable with hide and with few dies(soul gems) and its done. But the quests is long for the nothing, EXP and loot there is a joke. In Orsinium the exp is cool, from mobs from quest from everything, why is not the same in Craglorn or everywhere? In Craglorn there are very good quests, stroies, but who don't care for that gargabe loot and exp?

In this game there is tons of mechanics that helps u hate play with others. For example, you dont get so much exp if you play with others. Others open the chests, collect materials, others run for mobs because of the exp. If u are with others close togheter but not in same group the situation is even worse.

I still love the game, but if I see players then I ran in the other direction. I like open chests, collect materials. I like gaining exp and loot from mobs and I hate that feeling when others run for chest, materials, mobs. What am I the enemy? In this game the PVE is competetive who reach first the target, u can steal it others get nothing.

Birdovic

Im still wondering about one thing:

Orsinium was advertised as a Solo Pve Zone, but the bosses are way harder to beat than the Bosses in the "GROUP Pve Zone" (Craglorn) ^^

laksikus

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

No one soloing an orsinium boss. No chance. Proof required. Being the last man alive at 2% health doesn't count either. IC sewer bosses have a nice little glitch on console at least where 2 people can crush a banner boss. Not posting it on here but it's easy when you think about it. District bosses are the hardest bosses in the game imo. So damn hard they sometimes require all the alliances to ignore each other just to bring them down.

orsinium bosses are easy.
you can solo them all except the titan.
They are a lot easier then vMA.

If i can defeat them on my magicka nb, there are alot more people who can defeat him too + all shield sorcs out there.
IC sewers are solo able too (all but the ghost that 2shots me^^).

District bosses and elites are a different matter

Magdalina

andypappb16_ESO wrote: »

Im still wondering about one thing:

Orsinium was advertised as a Solo Pve Zone, but the bosses are way harder to beat than the Bosses in the "GROUP Pve Zone" (Craglorn) ^^

I know everyone hates this argument, but this is a MMO. I think it makes there should be at least SOMETHING involving grouping in the zone, it's enough that even MSA is purely solo.

Alcast

Tarrin wrote: »

There is a lot of world bos..hmm..losers in other zones. Please, don`t touch IC/Orcinium world bosses.

I love that gif, and I love the tv show!

Refuse2GrowUp

ChuckyPayne wrote: »

-1, NO
M(M)O (M) = Multiplayer

If we talk about bosses. That would be scaleable from 2+. If you can do with 2 ppl, that is hard enough there is challange but if you do with 20-30 players that is horrible easy pie. If you have luck u can hit once the boss

Horrible as the Dolmens u r lvl26 dolmen lvl26 too. There is 2 VET16 players, and If you have luck u can hit a mob for the done the dolmen with treause, but 0 exp because of VET16 players.

That is the problem not the cant solo...

Craglorn is problems too!!!! Just ask, why am I do? No motivation with alts only for skyshard, that is soloable with hide and with few dies(soul gems) and its done. But the quests is long for the nothing, EXP and loot there is a joke. In Orsinium the exp is cool, from mobs from quest from everything, why is not the same in Craglorn or everywhere? In Craglorn there are very good quests, stroies, but who don't care for that gargabe loot and exp?

In this game there is tons of mechanics that helps u hate play with others. For example, you dont get so much exp if you play with others. Others open the chests, collect materials, others run for mobs because of the exp. If u are with others close togheter but not in same group the situation is even worse.

I still love the game, but if I see players then I ran in the other direction. I like open chests, collect materials. I like gaining exp and loot from mobs and I hate that feeling when others run for chest, materials, mobs. What am I the enemy? In this game the PVE is competetive who reach first the target, u can steal it others get nothing.

The game should not be changed just because you are antisocial or cannot/will not find a cohesive group to run with.

Honestly, sounds like you would enjoy a solo player game more than this. Doesn't seem fair to the devs that you play an MMO and complain they should change it to solo content

Strider_Roshin

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

No one soloing an orsinium boss. No chance. Proof required. Being the last man alive at 2% health doesn't count either. IC sewer bosses have a nice little glitch on console at least where 2 people can crush a banner boss. Not posting it on here but it's easy when you think about it. District bosses are the hardest bosses in the game imo. So damn hard they sometimes require all the alliances to ignore each other just to bring them down.

A glitch? You're kidding me. Me and my cousin two man these bosses casually. Are you saying that people really struggle against these things? Lol oh man....