[Video] DK PVP: Nooo, noo he wasn't ready!

Ernest145

Alcast wrote: »

Scrippie10 wrote: »

@Alcast do you get this much love on your posts? lol It's a pretty fun build btw.

Nice kills haha, yep, some ppl are cheesy, I mean, just run radiant magelight and you will not get ganked, but I guess ppl find it more usefull to come on forum and QQ, [snip]

And people talking about easymode, the biggest easymode there is is magicka sorc and magicka NB which is 95% of the ESO community atm

Most players don't deny that majicka sorcs and stam nightbaldes are on top and either other classes need buffs or those two specs need to be brought down. But what you and the player in this video do is purely relying on broken mechanics to one shot people, which obviously takes no skill what so ever. Most people I find running builds like this either run away when they can't intstakill you or just die because they are bad, so makes me assume that most if not all players running these kinds of gank builds are just bad players and need to exploit broken mechanics to get kills. Not saying you are a bad player but running builds like this and running an '"easy mode" mag sorc and stam night blade are completely different.
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Alcast

Rylana wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

Scrippie10 wrote: »

Also feel free to give me suggestions as to something else/ other combos to run. I don't mind testing things out.

Plus this isn't my main build. I only run this in small group play.

This is becoming a problem. People are too scared to run particular builds because they don't want to be called out. I stopped using wrecking blow so often because of all the hate whispers. I enjoy the taste of salty tears but it's drying my mouth out now.

It's no longer play how you want, it's play how other people want. Do whatever you want to do - whatever works for you and don't listen to the complainers. Why fix something that isn't broken?

Play how you want, who cares about the QQ from other players? People always find excuses, its simple.

NBs spam cloak, spam surprise attack
Sorcs spam bolt
Temps spam BoL
Dks spam Whip

Everybody spams something because DoTs are useless in this game because way too easy purgable. Ofcourse sb ends up spamming the skill that does the most damage.

@Rylana the only reason it does so much damage is because the build is full weap dmg/stam. I do have like 750 stam rec(https://i.gyazo.com/c7d923fb42d1c2b43232c3db8d09f8cb.png) There is sorcs that run full spelldmg/magicka with P det+curse+frag and the enemy is 100% RIP. Nobody complains about that.


Then Ppl call for Steel tornado nerf bc zergs run taht stuff 24/7 now, guess what, once that is nerfed they go over to bombard and realizse it is stronger than STornado. and so on...and so on...

While you are clearly seeing the overall meta issue (gravitation towards optimal) youre still missing my point I think. That in the beginning of a development/testing cycle theres always "that guy" that finds the really broken thing (like camo hunter as the latest example) and tries to justify its use.

its obviously broken, since its proccing from multiple damage sources only requiring one ability/action to cause, multiple times. Some of us know the secrets, too, and while we try to get the actually BROKEN stuff fixed, guys like you applaud its use? cmon man, we might as well have damage immunity on breaches using caltrops again.

Double camo proc happens, but it is very seldom tbh.. There is so much broken stuff in the game, why should I bother justifying ANYTHING at all?

I could hop on my fotm Stam NB and be more efficient ganking ppl, bc there is so much more ways to animation cancel stuff...tho I like the DK and that is why I play it, how I play it is totally up to me I guess.

Then, camohunter is not broken, SNEAK-MECHANIC is broken. Ye sure nerf camo, no problemo, the ISSUE however is not fixed. The issue here is that ALL hits in 0.49s count as sneak damage and can therefore proc multiple sneak camos.
Normal Camoproc has a 2.5s cooldown. the Sneak proc has no cooldown, making it possible to proc multiple times because you can get off several sneak proc at once...and that is really the sneak mechanics fault.

WHY does ZOS allow us to make several sneak procs? Makes no sense, but it is like it is. ZOS doesnt care...check here http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/224146/camo-hunter-stealth-extra-damage-no-cooldown#latest

Sure you would suggest nerf camo, would it help? NO it would ofcourse not.

The amount of crybabies about camohunter is unbeliviable, but it is not even the issue, broken sneakmechanic is, but I guess that is fine with everyone, as long as camo gets NURFED into the ground

KostasDragonborn

Ernest145 wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Scrippie10 wrote: »

@Alcast do you get this much love on your posts? lol It's a pretty fun build btw.

Nice kills haha, yep, some ppl are cheesy, I mean, just run radiant magelight and you will not get ganked, but I guess ppl find it more usefull to come on forum and QQ, [snip]

And people talking about easymode, the biggest easymode there is is magicka sorc and magicka NB which is 95% of the ESO community atm

Most players don't deny that majicka sorcs and stam nightbaldes are on top and either other classes need buffs or those two specs need to be brought down. But what you and the player in this video do is purely relying on broken mechanics to one shot people, which obviously takes no skill what so ever. Most people I find running builds like this either run away when they can't intstakill you or just die because they are bad, so makes me assume that most if not all players running these kinds of gank builds are just bad players and need to exploit broken mechanics to get kills. Not saying you are a bad player but running builds like this and running an '"easy mode" mag sorc and stam night blade are completely different.

You cannot say he has no skill, he's mastered animation canceling, and has no death runs with his build on vet Maelstrom Arena.

I'm not getting killed by this build in PVP enough to cry about it. It's the perma cloak NB perma fleeing cowards that irk me.

I ran a Magicka DK for 6 months, and I recently switched to Stam DK. The disparity between the damage output between the two play styles (mag/stam) is absurd. I also refuse to use WB because of the lack of satisfaction I get from using it (S/S & 2H).

Give the OP a break, he's on console.
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Ryuho

WB range is completly out of control + heavy attack cancel while WBing [snip].. WTB back interrupt to it, like it was ages ago!
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Kutsuu

I'm all about using whatever works best. I think it's great that Xeloki is playing this build and making tons of videos, because it inspires others to play it and brings it to everyone's attention. That is the same reason that I pushed the vampire 1h/shield bash builds so hard early in the game. If we flood the game with it, we see more responsiveness from the developer.

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Ernest145

KostasDragonborn wrote: »

Ernest145 wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Scrippie10 wrote: »

@Alcast do you get this much love on your posts? lol It's a pretty fun build btw.

Nice kills haha, yep, some ppl are cheesy, I mean, just run radiant magelight and you will not get ganked, but I guess ppl find it more usefull to come on forum and QQ, [snip]

And people talking about easymode, the biggest easymode there is is magicka sorc and magicka NB which is 95% of the ESO community atm

Most players don't deny that majicka sorcs and stam nightbaldes are on top and either other classes need buffs or those two specs need to be brought down. But what you and the player in this video do is purely relying on broken mechanics to one shot people, which obviously takes no skill what so ever. Most people I find running builds like this either run away when they can't intstakill you or just die because they are bad, so makes me assume that most if not all players running these kinds of gank builds are just bad players and need to exploit broken mechanics to get kills. Not saying you are a bad player but running builds like this and running an '"easy mode" mag sorc and stam night blade are completely different.

You cannot say he has no skill, he's mastered animation canceling, and has no death runs with his build on vet Maelstrom Arena.

I'm not getting killed by this build in PVP enough to cry about it. It's the perma cloak NB perma fleeing cowards that irk me.

I ran a Magicka DK for 6 months, and I recently switched to Stam DK. The disparity between the damage output between the two play styles (mag/stam) is absurd. I also refuse to use WB because of the lack of satisfaction I get from using it (S/S & 2H).

Give the OP a break, he's on console.

Again I said that play style of one shotting people takes no skill, nowhere did I say that the OP and Alcast have no skill.

@KostasDragonborn but yes I do agree that the state of pvp and class balance is in a terrible place right now.
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Cathexis

Video is evidence of why instant kill meta is horrible game design.

Yolokin_Swagonborn

Cathexis wrote: »

Video is evidence of why instant kill meta is horrible game design.

All because of the champion system and removal of softcaps. Now gear is going to be CP gated. Having high CP is going to become even more important.