Ancestor Silk....NOPE, just worms.

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FortheloveofKrist
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So I'd like to make a plea to everyone that you take some time from farming to troll a troll.

TIP: If you find some Ancestor Silk in Wrothgar and it only has worms or crawlers, look around and see if you can find the culprit nearby farming (usually a skeleton morph V16 on a cat mount calling Rapid Manuever). Follow and see if he/she does it again. If so, take some time to follow this fellow around. Shadow farming, you could call it. Pick up everything you can before your teammate does, and most of all, when there is a high level node next to a mob...just wait for that person to fight the mob, and then walk up and farm the node while he defends your honor.

Sometimes trolls must be taught a lesson.
  • vyrusb23
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    Sounds like a successful troll to me. If people follow this line of action, the original troll will still be trolling. This troll is literally getting you to drop everything you're doing, put on pause the in game adventures that you were about to embark on, and follow him around just to spite him. You're not trolling a troll, the original troll is continuing to troll you and you don't even know it.
  • Brrrofski
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    Why is it trolling?

    Granted, I take the worms too, but why would I if I didn't want them?
  • Skayaq
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    Yeah, I never take worms when harvesting, I have no use for them so picking them up just means i have to delete them later.
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  • Tan9oSuccka
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    Skayaq wrote: »
    Yeah, I never take worms when harvesting, I have no use for them so picking them up just means i have to delete them later.

    This is just silly. Take a look at what worms sell for in some guild stores.

    People love that Perfect Roe.

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  • FortheloveofKrist
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    vyrusb23 wrote: »
    Sounds like a successful troll to me. If people follow this line of action, the original troll will still be trolling. This troll is literally getting you to drop everything you're doing, put on pause the in game adventures that you were about to embark on, and follow him around just to spite him. You're not trolling a troll, the original troll is continuing to troll you and you don't even know it.

    I ultimately gathered quite a bit of high level mats, using his Rapid Manuever, because the person kept engaging mobs while I took their spoils. So if that's being trolled, then you are right, I got so trolled. Not sure why he didn't just Wayshrine to another part of the map.

    And you seem defensive. Sounds like this is your way of farming, too, eh?
    Brrrofski wrote: »
    Why is it trolling?

    Perhaps trolling is the wrong word. Deliberately inconsiderate?

    Edited by FortheloveofKrist on December 8, 2015 4:13PM
  • Decado
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    There is a special place in hell for people who leave worms/crawlers on nodes
  • Joey053
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    To be honest i never even thought about it untill now.

    I never took the worms but that makes the node not respawning untill someone gets the worms lol.
    Good time for me to go to hell then, it,s getting colder this time a year.
  • Paulington
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    On PC-EU worms sell for around 5-7g each so they are worth picking up, especially as it means the plant does not despawn and you are making others farm your leftovers instead of letting new plants respawn.

    Just take the bait and either vendor or put it on a guild store, every little helps. :).
  • dRudE
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    I second the HATE on people who leave worms and crawlers.

    It is my word that if you do it on EP NA PC, I will remember your name, create a sorc on another faction and make sure your life in PvP is a living hell.

    You have been warned.
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  • daemonios
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    Brrrofski wrote: »
    Why is it trolling?

    Granted, I take the worms too, but why would I if I didn't want them?

    I'm going to assume you're not trolling yourself with that question. If you leave worms/crawlers, the node will still be there. Not only will it frustrate a player that tries to harvest it only to find no mats, it also prevents the node from respawning with a fresh stack of mats (and possibly bait).

    Besides, it takes more time to selectively take the material and leave the bait than to loot everything in the node, so why do it?
  • Haxnschwammer
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    For those who still don't know, if you leave the worms in the plant, it won't respawn.
    It will forever be a rotten husk holding the worms.
    Once empty the plant vanishes and immediately spawns somewhere else.
    No guarantee of a silk node though.
    Not taking worms harms you in the long run, too. Because there are fewer and fewer
    plants to harvest.
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  • vyrusb23
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    I ultimately gathered quite a bit of high level mats, using his Rapid Manuever, because the person kept engaging mobs while I took their spoils. So if that's being trolled, then you are right, I got so trolled. Not sure why he didn't just Wayshrine to another part of the map.

    And you seem defensive. Sounds like this is your way of farming, too, eh?

    Perhaps trolling is the wrong word. Deliberately inconsiderate?

    How am I being defensive?

    edit: If your original intent was to "farm mats", then the original troll probably actually helped you out. However, if you had no intent on "farming mats", the original troll would be successful in that they got the player to literally follow them around the map in an attempt to spite the troll instead of engaging in quests, dungeons, exploration, etc.
    Edited by vyrusb23 on December 8, 2015 4:27PM
  • Starshadw
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    Brrrofski wrote: »
    Why is it trolling?

    Granted, I take the worms too, but why would I if I didn't want them?

    Because the resource node will not respawn until ALL items are taken - yes, even the worms/crawlers.

    Thus, every time someone leaves those items sitting on that node? They have effectively removed that node from the landscape until someone else comes alone and take the remaining items. That's why you'll note that the node doesn't disappear properly (as it will if you take everything). And until it disappears? It won't come back.

    The only reason trolls get away with it is because they know there are enough people out there who'll take the stuff they've left behind and get the node to respawn. Otherwise, they'd be trolling themselves because they'd run out of nodes to gather because none of the ones they touched would ever respawn.

    I personally wish ZOS would simply make resource nodes that contain only worms/crawlers "refresh" somehow, to stop this.
  • Draxys
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    Anyone who doesn't take the worms too is an ass hole, period. The node still appears as if there is a material in it. Put in the 2 seconds of extra effort to delete the worms, don't be an entitled prick.
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  • Uriel_Nocturne
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    Decado wrote: »
    There is a special place in hell for people who leave worms/crawlers on nodes
    Then Hell should just about have my mansion completed by now... lmao

    Naw, I take the worms as well. People are paying ridiculous amounts of cash for worms/crawlers as they try to farm that Perfect Roe.

    It's weird, but it's doing wonders for my bank account. :D


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  • FortheloveofKrist
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    Draxys wrote: »
    Anyone who doesn't take the worms too is an ass hole, period. The node still appears as if there is a material in it. Put in the 2 seconds of extra effort to delete the worms, don't be an entitled prick.

    You put it better than I did.
    Edited by FortheloveofKrist on December 8, 2015 4:30PM
  • Starshadw
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    Then Hell should just about have my mansion completed by now... lmao

    Naw, I take the worms as well. People are paying ridiculous amounts of cash for worms/crawlers as they try to farm that Perfect Roe.

    It's weird, but it's doing wonders for my bank account. :D

    Hee - I'm one who will buy bait (despite doing a lot of resource gathering - its guts and worms that don't seem to come as fast as crawlers) because I'm still working on my fishing achievement and let me tell you, that takes a LOT of bait.
  • Asherons_Call
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    Sounds like the troll in question is ignorant of the price of worms on the market. Hardest bait to get and sells for at least 5k a stack if you can even find it
  • JD2013
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    So much rage for such a small issue!

    Well. Small apart from the node not respawning. Actually it's not that small of an issue. Especially when you think it's Ancestor Silk.

    TAKE THE WORMS OR CRAWLERS, PEOPLE!!!
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  • Uriel_Nocturne
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    Starshadw wrote: »

    Hee - I'm one who will buy bait (despite doing a lot of resource gathering - its guts and worms that don't seem to come as fast as crawlers) because I'm still working on my fishing achievement and let me tell you, that takes a LOT of bait.
    I'm trying to become Tamriel's foremost supplier of Worms and Guts.

    Thank you for your business. lmao


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  • Jennifur_Vultee
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    Decado wrote: »
    There is a special place in hell for people who leave worms/crawlers on nodes

    They are the minions of Molag Bal and he shall have a special place of honor for them in Coldharbour.

    Seriously though people...just take the freakin' worms or crawlers and "sell" delete them easily later like a normal person. It makes the node respawn for the next person rather than that person having to take your "trash".
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  • Ourorboros
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    Considering the rarity of ancestor silk, it's pretty disappointing to find a node with only worms or crawlers. I was guilty of leaving bait too, until I started fishing. Then I realized the value of bait. I'll take the bait if that is all there is in node, but hold no ill will to those who leave them. This cherry-picking behavior has been addressed many times on the forum. The real blame belongs to Zos for the game design. They have made inventory a scarce commodity, so players leave the worm. They also have done nothing to respawn nodes with only bait. I'm just glad they got rid of the food items left in plant nodes, crawfish and that other kind of worm.
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  • daemonios
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    Ourorboros wrote: »
    Considering the rarity of ancestor silk, it's pretty disappointing to find a node with only worms or crawlers. I was guilty of leaving bait too, until I started fishing. Then I realized the value of bait. I'll take the bait if that is all there is in node, but hold no ill will to those who leave them. This cherry-picking behavior has been addressed many times on the forum. The real blame belongs to Zos for the game design. They have made inventory a scarce commodity, so players leave the worm. They also have done nothing to respawn nodes with only bait. I'm just glad they got rid of the food items left in plant nodes, crawfish and that other kind of worm.

    I don't buy the "precious inventory space" argument. Up to 200 worms will take up only ONE slot in your inventory. You're saying that to save that ONE slot people are pausing at each node and selectively picking only the materials, leaving the bait behind, instead of just having auto-loot on or pressing one key to loot everything from the node?
  • purple-magicb16_ESO
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    Can ZoS confirm that any of this is true? I don't think anyone is 100% certain that nodes with trash items don't eventually respawn. This may be a misconception that is taken for granted b/c someone just came up behind someone else that took only the "good part" of the node. Has anyone ever been able to leave a garbage node sit long enough to actually see if it respawns. Due to so many other farming players, it may be next to impossible. BTW nodes do not respwan in random locations. If you farm a node then wait long enough it will respawn in the same location. And no, I don't leave behind bait when I farm nodes. Actually quite the opposite, I clean them up. I just never thought it was this big a deal.
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  • Master_Fluff
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    This old argument about how not taking worms/crawlers prevents nodes from respawning ,again? It's been over a year since the last threads/zone chats on the matter, and it's been debunked. A containers respawn timer starts the moment it's opened, even if it's not emptied.
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  • BabeestorGor
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    daemonios wrote: »

    I don't buy the "precious inventory space" argument. Up to 200 worms will take up only ONE slot in your inventory. You're saying that to save that ONE slot people are pausing at each node and selectively picking only the materials, leaving the bait behind, instead of just having auto-loot on or pressing one key to loot everything from the node?

    Beginning characters I buy it.
    You start out with only 60 slots which soon fill up with all the different crafting materials and don't want to head back to the bank every 5 minutes, you probably don't know the nodes won't respawn, and don't realise that worms are a valuable commodity
    I used to leave worms/crawlers behind
    No excuse for doing it longterm though
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  • FortheloveofKrist
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    This old argument about how not taking worms/crawlers prevents nodes from respawning ,again? It's been over a year since the last threads/zone chats on the matter, and it's been debunked. A containers respawn timer starts the moment it's opened, even if it's not emptied.

    Actually it's a thread about players lacking courtesy. You see a Ancestor Silk node from 100 meters away (not talking about keen eye) run all the way over, maybe even fight off a mob or two, and farm it find just worms. It's just a d-bag move. It wastes a person's time regardless of whether it respawns. Your point is moot.
  • Brrrofski
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    daemonios wrote: »

    I'm going to assume you're not trolling yourself with that question. If you leave worms/crawlers, the node will still be there. Not only will it frustrate a player that tries to harvest it only to find no mats, it also prevents the node from respawning with a fresh stack of mats (and possibly bait).

    Besides, it takes more time to selectively take the material and leave the bait than to loot everything in the node, so why do it?

    I'm not saying it's OK to do.

    But trolling is doing something on purpose to annoy someone.

    While it may be that, it's probably just ignorance and selfishness. Which are no better, but they may not be setting oiut to purposely troll others
    Edited by Brrrofski on December 8, 2015 5:40PM
  • Saucy_Jack
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    This old argument about how not taking worms/crawlers prevents nodes from respawning ,again? It's been over a year since the last threads/zone chats on the matter, and it's been debunked. A containers respawn timer starts the moment it's opened, even if it's not emptied.

    Ok, so if I'm interpreting correctly:

    I go to a cloth node, I "open" it. I don't take anything. Or just for kicks, I JUST take the worms. You're telling me that node's respawn timer now kicks in, and after the appropriate amount of time, another node will respawn on top of this one? So now there will be two nodes in the same spot?

    I'm not sure I follow how this is supposed to work. And if it doesn't work the way I just described, then people need to take the dangity dang bait!
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  • Lirkin
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    ZOS could make is so that they nodes once looted go away even if worms are left.
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